EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Me-I am cruel. I stopped I Euroa for a few bits not spending at the Service centre where the chargers are well out of town. Local bakery and coffee shop benefited from my two stops [biggrin] I like local businesses myself. All the petrol and diesel types seem to be adding to the McDonalds and three other food places I skipped.

RE the Snow. There is multiple Charge points at Mount Hotham, Mansfield and Mount Bulla and Fast chargers at Falls Creek which would easily make even my short assed range a option. A long range version might not be required?
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No snow chains for mine yet. I might try it for some fun in the snow with out the I.C.E. [biggrin]

NSW is free fast chargers via NRMA charging points. Lucky buggers. I don't mind the price myself. It will have to go up when every one gets a EV of course. Its clear the fast charging points are getting more and more use every time I visit Ballarat and this weekends trip.

It would be a fair to point out there is 20 + petrol or diesel browsers and just 4 Ev Charge points at the places in Euroa. Add the 30 minutes to an hour at the EV charge points means a log jam is likely as more Evs hit the road.

Had a quick look at the new BYD. its about 50K from EVDirect.com.au | BYD Atto 3 - Electric Cars

480km range maybe. 7 year warranty. and a guitar on both doors :) Crazy?

The battery tech is possibly a step up. I am still waiting for a Disco replacement- Such is life

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No snow chains for mine yet. I might try it for some fun in the snow with out the I.C.E.

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Was going to do Cooma, > Dead Horse Gap etc to the other end of The Alpine Way, > Khancoban, without chains on board, in Sept one year . (before it was bituminised)

But the bloke in the Ski Hire joint in Cooma advised against that even in the D1 with knobbly tyres, so all I did in the end was take his set of Hire Chains for a pleasant drive to Khancoban. BASTARD!!

According to him the cops were hot on not carrying Chains. May have been utter Bull**** for all I knew. :BigCry::Rolling: Still, I never got pinched.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Me-I am cruel. I stopped I Euroa for a few bits not spending at the Service centre where the chargers are well out of town. Local bakery and coffee shop benefited from my two stops [biggrin] I like local businesses myself. All the petrol and diesel types seem to be adding to the McDonalds and three other food places I skipped.

RE the Snow. There is multiple Charge points at Mount Hotham, Mansfield and Mount Bulla and Fast chargers at Falls Creek which would easily make even my short assed range a option. A long range version might not be required?
https://photos.plugshare.com/photos/757608.jpg

No snow chains for mine yet. I might try it for some fun in the snow with out the I.C.E. [biggrin]

NSW is free fast chargers via NRMA charging points. Lucky buggers. I don't mind the price myself. It will have to go up when every one gets a EV of course. Its clear the fast charging points are getting more and more use every time I visit Ballarat and this weekends trip.

It would be a fair to point out there is 20 + petrol or diesel browsers and just 4 Ev Charge points at the places in Euroa. Add the 30 minutes to an hour at the EV charge points means a log jam is likely as more Evs hit the road.

Had a quick look at the new BYD. its about 50K from EVDirect.com.au | BYD Atto 3 - Electric Cars

480km range maybe. 7 year warranty. and a guitar on both doors :) Crazy?

The battery tech is possibly a step up. I am still waiting for a Disco replacement- Such is life

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Does it have a heater?
If so how does it work?

Dont tell me it runs on diesel....[bighmmm][biggrin] The heater that is....

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Does it have a heater?
If so how does it work?

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Teslas have heaters for the batteries which reduce range significantly.
The early ones have an electric heater but later ones have a heat exchanger type like reverse cycle aircon for the cabin.
But in cold weather like under 0C a writer Tesla enthusiast in the USA/Canada found his range reduced by AFAIR 30% in below zero weather.
Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by scarry

Does it have a heater?
If so how does it work?

Dont tell me it runs on diesel....[bighmmm][biggrin] The heater that is....

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Only diesel in my family is my Disco [thumbsupbig]

Battery heat and conditions heats or cools the main battery happily [biggrin] Cold and hot can effect batteries of course and 20 to 30% range reduction likely as well due to the heater and defrosting AC.

Noting Alpine Diesel is added to my Disco when in snow or wax in diesel can freeze up and make starting impossible. ICE Vehicles typically have a 20% reduction in fuel economy at 20° F as well. (-6c brrr)

Not in snow yet. I'll let you know once I go in a few months

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Teslas have heaters for the batteries which reduce range significantly.
The early ones have an electric heater but later ones have a heat exchanger type like reverse cycle aircon for the cabin.
But in cold weather like under 0C a writer Tesla enthusiast in the USA/Canada found his range reduced by AFAIR 30% in below zero weather.
Regards PhilipA

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One assumes that with A/C cooling it'd be even less again. They are air cond aren't they?[bighmmm]

Remember how some posters were saying that no ICE car manufacturers are developing new ICE engines.

Why Stellantis Built a New Twin-Turbo I6 Engine on the Eve of Electrification (thedrive.com)
As Mark twain said "“The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.”
Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Remember how some posters were saying that no ICE car manufacturers are developing new ICE engines

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Yep,rubbish it all was.

There are a huge number of manufacturers developing ICE engines.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Yep,rubbish it all was.

There are a huge number of manufacturers developing ICE engines.

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They should operate well at Dead Horse Gap then, Paul.[bigrolf]

this is almost funny? I keep thinking of selling my short range version and waiting for the longer range yet find the price increase for just a bit more hard to justify.
A mate is trying to buy one Salary Sacrifice I think. The fact he spent 15K for fuel last year plus servicing costs has him thinking even if he paid $1500 for the equivalent Grid supplied power it makes sense. Not my numbers nor did it include the tax deduction consideration he is thinking of using.

A used car selling for more than purchase price might not be just a EV thing of course?
“Stunning failure of policy:” Second-hand Tesla Model 3 sells for more than original price

Not just Tesla, and not just EVs. There is a serious shortage of most new cars at present, resulting in long delivery times - and strong demand for used cars - with prices of both new and s/h going up.