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Originally Posted by Tins

I, for one, do not hate EVs. In fact I think they are amazing within certain parameters. However, I'm rarely convinced by evangelism in any form, and that's how I look on most debates on "alternative" energies of any kind. If they are as good as we are supposed to believe, why do they need subsidies?

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So, if mainstream energy is so good why do they need A$11.6 billion in subsidies in just one year?

Australian fossil fuel subsidies surge to $11.6 billion in 2021-22 - The Australia Institute

Note too that most of these subsidies are to the benefit of large coal, oil and gas companies.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

So, if mainstream energy is so good why do they need A$11.6 billion in subsidies in just one year?

Australian fossil fuel subsidies surge to $11.6 billion in 2021-22 - The Australia Institute

Note too that most of these subsidies are to the benefit of large coal, oil and gas companies.

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Probably in order to upgrade infrastructure in preparation for the expected uptick in EV sales. Catch 22.

https://www.recurrentauto.com/resear...-ev-range-loss

35,000km now on MG ev and one service [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

The replacement engine in my D3 has not gone 1/3 than and I am not going to think about the cost!!!

Just don't go to Mt Hotham.
On refection I reckon many innercity EV owners will also be ski enthusiasts (Dahhhling) and that NRMA mobile battery charging unit in Goulburn will get a workout next winter.
Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Just don't go to Mt Hotham.
On refection I reckon many innercity EV owners will also be ski enthusiasts (Dahhhling) and that NRMA mobile battery charging unit in Goulburn will get a workout next winter.
Regards PhilipA

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Land slide some where in mountains is causing a bit of grief[bigwhistle]

Attachment 183044 Esky in back made for a yummy lunch today from a coastal run to someone else's boat. Fast charger at Ocean grove
out of order let me skip to racv Torquay to charge up a bit for home.

Re Cold and batteries getting up big mountains might use a bit of power. Honestly once up the down hill recharge via regenerative braking might make home a lot easier.

Your correct my quirky one is hardly a long distance touring beast. [thumbsupbig] Fantastic for Port Fairy Chemo express transport which is very happily done with now.

Suspect I will be handing the MG over to the kids early mid /later this year IF a Disco level option becomes available. I mean mostly with Solid state batteries /hydrogen fuel cell 4wd tow capable not my short range pita :)

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

35,000km now on MG ev and one service [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

The replacement engine in my D3 has not gone 1/3 than and I am not going to think about the cost!!!

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Land slide some where in mountains is causing a bit of grief[bigwhistle]

Attachment 183044 Esky in back made for a yummy lunch today from a coastal run to someone else's boat. Fast charger at Ocean grove
out of order let me skip to racv Torquay to charge up a bit for home.

Re Cold and batteries getting up big mountains might use a bit of power. Honestly once up the down hill recharge via regenerative braking might make home a lot easier.

Your correct my quirky one is hardly a long distance touring beast. [thumbsupbig] Fantastic for Port Fairy Chemo express transport which is very happily done with now.

Suspect I will be handing the MG over to the kids early mid /later this year IF a Disco level option becomes available. I mean mostly with Solid state batteries /hydrogen fuel cell 4wd tow capable not my short range pita :)

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Mutually inclusive events me thinks [thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

So, if mainstream energy is so good why do they need A$11.6 billion in subsidies in just one year?

Australian fossil fuel subsidies surge to $11.6 billion in 2021-22 - The Australia Institute

Note too that most of these subsidies are to the benefit of large coal, oil and gas companies.

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Perhaps worth pointing out that the majority of these "subsidies" are concessions that are not specific to any particular industry, with the main one being the fuel rebate for excise on diesel, which is, for example, also available for primary production. Most of the other "subsidies" are provided by state and territory governments to support their income stream from royalties and political support by providing employment.

Excise on diesel and petrol is a public road user charge so has to be refunded when the fuel is used for non-road purposes. It isn't a concession at all.