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    Welcome to the age of stupidity

    has anything changed in big business Mike ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    After watching the John Cadogen YT video about battery fires this afternoon and what one should do if there is a fire (basically get well away and upwind), I Googled cobalt in Li-Ion batteries.

    It seems that the cobalt is the reason for the fires. From what I could gather, batteries without cobalt don't catch fire.
    Having checked what I have in my camper trailer under my bed I find that they are cobalt free. Thanks for that Ron - I will sleep so much easier when camping now.
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    $500 deposit for Double the short range

    Always stated my MG is NOT good going fast a long way or even a moderate run. The 240km supposed range was never ever achieved at speed.

    A newer version allegedly has 440km (40km (WLTP)) Bet the means IF you push, don't use AC or heating, have all windows up and do not drive above 80kph and the temperature is perfect and a tail wind is helping

    Suspect 2 years before I can get what I want so flipping the XS EV with 36000+ or keeping it??

    Mid June to Dec 2023 delivery. I am first in line for the new temporary car Ringwood MG place
    https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-m...nge-confirmed/


    Interesting chat with the dealer 10 current orders for the new Rear wheel drive cheapie coming at about the same time.
    2023 MG 4 electric hatch: Everything we know

    Not really known prices yet Perhaps "base model 4 start at AU$49,500 drive-away"

    Front wheel drive is NOT my joy with the very torque smooth ev power enabling just a bit of wheel slip/spin if its at all slippery.

    Choices now. Sell the current or hold it for the kids?

    Port fairy runs will be much easier in the new so called Long Range MG. Appreciate my Disco is about 800km range on a tank so the claim of Long is bit of a stretch in comparison. The Long range Tank in my prior D3 was 1200km or more! That was long range Expensive to fill of course!

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    I think any OEM claiming long range for their EV’s is more than a stretch but is actually false advertising.

    Might see if I can find an advert saying that somewhere and send it to the ACCC.

    From their website -

    Businesses shouldn't try to gain an unfair advantage by making misleading claims about their products or services.

    Claims should be true, accurate and based on reasonable grounds.

    A business must be able to prove any claim they advertise.

    Edit - easy to find, MG has an advert claiming ‘long range’ - no asterisk about that being compared to their standard range of EV’s so I would think that breaches the second line - It’s BS like this around EV advertising that really annoys me.
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    The limited range of EVs at highway speeds is the major limiting factor to us, living in regional WA. Most EVs with a stated range of 450km are no more than 250km range on a run from Bunbury to Perth, which is flat and straight with no opportunity for regen to the batteries.

    A plug in hybrid would be a perfect option, but most manufacturers seem to be pulling their models now and moving to EV only...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Not at all disagreeing at all for my own Disco replacement needs. I want Solid state batteries or Hydrogen FCEV or Solid state batteries with hybrid hydrogen FCEV needed before I jump that way
    I guess you have already considered a Trailer with a Honda Petrol Driven Generator installed in it? I am sure you have, but discarded that idea because it was a crap idea, right? If you get a Tandem trailer you will be able to increase the Battery Storage capacity.
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    The Honda wouldn’t cut it but I do have 60 and 100KVA gens that would keep up with an EV’s power demands if they could tow them - with 300 litres of diesel on board they’d get a fair distance too. 🤣
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    The Honda wouldn’t cut it but I do have 60 and 100KVA gens that would keep up with an EV’s power demands if they could tow them - with 300 litres of diesel on board they’d get a fair distance too. 🤣
    Even better.
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    My thought with an electric vehicle is if not paying cash to arrange a loan where the lender takes the residual risk. This way so long as you manage the car to keep within the terms of the agreement you can just hand it back and take a new one to replace it

    This is as technology is evolving and based on UK experience a 3 year old electric car is as a result way older than a 3 year old ICE vehicle. High mileage or over 3 years old are a hard sell in the second hand market where the economics of ownership cost still favour an ICE vehicle

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    Just watched a Youtube vid about towing with an EV - as was totally expected the EV used twice as much power when towing as to not towing where an ice typically uses 50% more fuel in similar circumstances - but we already know this.

    The interesting bit is when they went to recharge - the charging points are only designed to fit one vehicle in per point and the depending on make the vehicle has to be pointed in or reversed in. What they found was it is impossible to recharge the car (BMW in this case) with the caravan attached because the car could not get close enough to the charging point. They had to unhitch the caravan and park it somewhere and then take the car to the charger, grab a cuppa for the next hour or so while the car charged then go back and collect the caravan - and repeat every 180km or so.

    A little more thought need to go into the design of the surrounds to charging stations. Also highlights that when towing the time required charging is getting close to the same as being on the actual road.
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