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Very lucky only one EV was involved,and a faulty battery,as far as i can work out from the article.

From what I have seen on a couple of other links (including John Cadogan) the EV involved was parked in the back corner of the Hire Car parking lot near the Sydney airport control tower when it consumed itself. The person hiring it had run over something and brought it back in with a damaged battery. Some time after parking the car, they removed the damaged battery but left it out, and a week or two later after some heavy rain, the water got in and then, 'up she went'.

A fire proof battery- Not yet - "Toyota appears to be at an advanced stage of solid-state battery development and promised in June 2023 that its breakthrough will lead to a solid-state battery capable of delivering 745 miles range and recharge in just 10 minutes. It aims to bring its solid-state batteries to market by 2027-2028."

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Alway some time later[bawl][bawl][bawl] On the bright side I will get 50k out of the about to be delivered MG4. On the funny side I took dad to respite care in Port Lonsdale. Three electric jesus cars in free EV charging car parks. A CCS was my 30 minute stop. One of the electric jesus cars was not plugged in just parked [bigwhistle] Plug share is a site used to find charging places. Uploaded a photo of the VIP to that site[bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by scarry

So ran into a customer of ours,who bought a BMW EV a few weeks ago.
He is finding it difficult to get used to,compared with the last ICE BMW.

Gets 5 yrs of free charging,as long as he uses a certain charger,luckily there is one near him.
But no doubt there is a guesstimate on how much power he will use and it is hidden in the vehicle cost.
Forty five minutes from 30% to 90%, which equates to a week of driving for him.
I forgot to ask what range he gets out of it.

BMW have said only charge it to 80% as that is better for the battery,but he likes to go to 90.

How the battery condition is won't really worry him as he changes vehicles over every 3 to 5 yrs.

Which brings up another point,the second hand market for EVs is going to be a nightmare,as some batteries will be in much in better condition than others.Maybe developing a way to do an accurate test might be the go.



So if it is only charged to 80%, that is 20% of range already gone,then allow at least 10% for margin,no one wants to run out,so down to around 70% of rated range.
And as we know the ‘real actual range’ will be even less.

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I find that to be the most egregious thing with lithium batteries "you can use 100% of them!". Well, yes, you can do that with every battery. Not all of them like it as much but it is clear to me that Lithium is oversold IMHO. My girl is never nice to her phone battery, she regularly depletes it to within a few percent and plonks it on the fast charger all the way up to 100% after that. A few years down the road and the wear is clearly noticeable. I on the other hand keep the charge between 20% and 80% most of the time (I rarely charge to 100%) and use the good ol' 5 watt brick and have significantly more battery life left.

Then again, zooming around Thessaloniki on an e-step/scooter was fun and the battery is the problem of the company renting them out... I guess so it goes with most EV owners at this time; "that's a problem for future someone"

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I find that to be the most egregious thing with lithium batteries "you can use 100% of them!". Well, yes, you can do that with every battery. Not all of them like it as much but it is clear to me that Lithium is oversold IMHO. My girl is never nice to her phone battery, she regularly depletes it to within a few percent and plonks it on the fast charger all the way up to 100% after that. A few years down the road and the wear is clearly noticeable. I on the other hand keep the charge between 20% and 80% most of the time (I rarely charge to 100%) and use the good ol' 5 watt brick and have significantly more battery life left.

Then again, zooming around Thessaloniki on an e-step/scooter was fun and the battery is the problem of the company renting them out... I guess so it goes with most EV owners at this time; "that's a problem for future someone"

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Agreed - we set our large batteries (45KWH and 125KWH) to bring on the Gen to charge them at 40% SOC - we’ve had one out for 20 months now running continuously and there’s no noticeable degradation in output yet. For $200K a pop for the bigger ones we want them to last a while.

The joys of interstate travel in a EV.

A friend of mine has BYD EV and he normally gets somewhere around 400km out of a full charge. Today he is/was driving from Sydney to Melbourne.

Like all good EV drivers he carefully planned his trip down the Hume Highway and included a couple of "splash and dash" fill ups in addition serious charges just to keep himself well topped up.

He is in Euroa and is now going to have to stop there for the night. He was expecting the charger to deliver its 7kw charging rate and he calculated that he would get enough juice to make Melbourne while he had dinner.

See this pic
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He is at 19% charge but the charger is only giving 1.1kw and if he went to full charge it would take 45 hours. He said his trickle charger in his garage does better than this.

I have suggested trying to get enough juice to get to Seymour where there maybe a better charger but I think at this time of night he has given up and is staying at a motel.

The joys of EVs [bigwhistle]

PS - he just messaged me that he has found a Tesla charger that he can charge from but a selfish Tesla driver has put his car on charge and just left the Tesla in the charging bay so no one else can use it.

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The joys of interstate travel in a EV.

A friend of mine has BYD EV and he normally gets somewhere around 400km out of a full charge. Today he is/was driving from Sydney to Melbourne.

Like all good EV drivers he carefully planned his trip down the Hume Highway and included a couple of "splash and dash" fill ups in addition serious charges just to keep himself well topped up.

He is in Euroa and is now going to have to stop there for the night. He was expecting the charger to deliver its 7kw charging rate and he calculated that he would get enough juice to make Melbourne while he had dinner.

See this pic
Attachment 187156

He is at 19% charge but the charger is only giving 1.1kw and if he went to full charge it would take 45 hours. He said his trickle charger in his garage does better than this.

I have suggested trying to get enough juice to get to Seymour where there maybe a better charger but I think at this time of night he has given up and is staying at a motel.

The joys of EVs [bigwhistle]

PS - he just messaged me that he has found a Tesla charger that he can charge from but a selfish Tesla driver has put his car on charge and just left the Tesla in the charging bay so no one else can use it.

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I bet the Eletric Jesus charger will not work for him! Just tried one in Geelong for fun. Reports all over Plug Share saying they are not working for BYD. I just added MG to the fail as well. My Telsa app is fully configured and tried to start the charge. It could not as it cannot see/detect my car which is the same issue reported by other BYD drivers.
There are dozens of Fast Chargers on the HUME.
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If my new one is here I will take it to Brisbane and Back for a wedding in 3 week. I might do up in a day and back over 2 to be kind to myself[biggrin]

Suggest your friend uses PLUGSHARE app. Configured to CCS only and NOT Eletric Jesus types.

Morning Cherry- A ship load of new EVs? Mines on it. Off Port Kembla on the way to Melbourne Soon I hope!

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Anyone wanting a 50,000 plus a bit km Black MG XS ev with a few years of new car warranty left call me. offers about the trade in amount of 32K considered.

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Seems fair. Power prices change so charging prices can as well[biggrin] I appreciate business need to make money and that is a bit tricky for EV charging currently. The $30 to $36 for a E.J. Mod y battery 60kWH full charge is clearly not a huge money spinner!

On weekdays from 7AM to 10PM pricing at the Heatherbrae station is $0.60kWh per kWh, and on all weekends and weekdays from 10 PM to 7AM pricing is $0.50 per kWh.
Based on the pricing at this station in New South Wales, the cost of fully charging a Tesla Model Y RWD with its 60kWh battery pack varies between $30 and $36, depending on day and time.
For now pricing at the majority of the other BP Pulse charging stations remains fixed at $0.55 per kWh.

The Tesla passed 5000k while we were away from home. At current electricity prices (big price rise) we've spent $250 to charge it at home over that time. It's not been charged out of the home other than a couple of test charges.

The 98 we used to put in the Golf is currently sitting at $2.60 (gasp). So about $910 in fuel. So I reckon the tesla energy costs are between 1/4 and 1/3 of the Golf. At todays prices, the Defender would have used around $1500 for the same mileage.