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"Released in Honda's Summary of 2024 Honda Business Briefing on Direction of Electrification Initiatives and Investment Strategy, the company's outlook on EVs is one that aims to have a fully electric fleet by 2040.
And that includes all of its motorcycles."
That seem a big announcement[bigwhistle]
[bigrolf] Certainly it's title is.Quote:
Originally Posted by NavyDiver
Will others follow suit?
https://www.auto123.com/en/news/amp/...engines/71542/
Elec J may wish to? "According to the lawsuit filed in Delaware Chancery Court, Musk and his brother Kimbal, a Tesla director, sold $30 billion worth of Tesla shares between late 2021 and late 2022.The sales occurred before news emerged that caused Tesla's stock price to drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
The lawsuit claims Musk concealed his plan to use the proceeds to buy the social media platform Twitter, thereby selling Tesla shares at artificially inflated prices.
Additionally, Musk allegedly sold shares despite knowing that deliveries of new vehicles were falling short of official projections."[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]
Hell! I hope not, there is not enough screen space left after Honda's little burst. :rulez:[bigrolf]Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
I saw that nissan leaf vid on the t00b as well. Is it just me or is a car with a mere 45k miles on it rather worn if the battery is already down to 70% capacity? We are sold lithium in droves because it is so much betterder (spelling intended) and can handle 2000 cycles easy! but 45K miles is certainly not 2000 cycles.
Let us assume that the poor leaf never did the 120miles from factory since most range predictions are somewhat exaggerated and say it started of doing 100 miles, gradually degrading to the 60 it can now do during this test. That is an average of 80 over the lifespan which means that to do 45000 miles with 80 miles tops you need to charge 563 times. That is a mere quarter of the 2000 cycles a lithium battery should be able to handle. Admittedly since the range is so poor most of the times they would not have kept the battery in the lithium butter-zone so that would have had an impact.
For once :) not bashing EV's but I wonder... The same came to light with Harry's video a while back. Now I know EVangelists (thanks to Cadogan for that term :P) will excuse it and say new battery tech will be there soon (tm) but I still find that somewhat disturbing to see.
PS. I decided to write down my conclusion in stead of waiting for a response since this thread does go rather fast in all sorts of directions.
If we are to keep a lithium battery in it's optimum zone we can use a mere 60% (which incidentally is about as much as you could use from a proper lead-acid battery to keep cycle life up which I find hilarious but that aside) since you need to keep it above 20% soc and charge it no further than 80%. Also, we should not charge with more than 0.5c (from memory). This means that any EV at this point in time, if bought for the environment AND your pocket should abide by those rules to last the longest and not waste raw materials. For that leaf (let's be generous and assume 120 miles from new) that means 72 miles of range and 2 hours charge time at least.
If you use it as a soccer-moms car then no doubt you can handle this, for any other use I am not sure...
Cheers,
-P
I think they all will. Why build things only a few want? Reckon the writing's on the wall in Europe with tens of thousands of the things sitting on docks, unwanted. Recent events in the EU may see more changes. Reckon we're going to be a dumping ground for a while though. Li Qiang is coming here for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
Of course it wouldn't "Those stupid bloody Aussies have all that dusty bloody surplus Ground there & if they get a strop on I'll threaten another ban on stuff, Wine, .seafood etc.f Easy peasy i"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
In Chinese of course.[bigrolf]
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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
He has a good point, I wouldnt touch an electric car with a 10 foot barge pole. Who would be insane ... crazy enough to even dream of touching one of these coming off lease. I'm guessing the resale value will be less than zero. As I have no doubt when the fools in government realise how insanely dangerous these batteries are ... they will require the poor fool that buys the car coming off lease to be responsible for the safe disposal of the battery. Which is an impossibility.
Tesla Vehicle Batteries Degrade Under 65% of Rated Range After Only Three Years
I sure wouldn't touch a rapidly deteriorating battery car ever ... not for any reason. They would certainly not be allowed to be charged or stored anywhere near the house where the family is sleeping. In the (extremely rare) event of a battery fire, you have mere seconds to sprint for your life.
This may be one of the best studies on why it's almost impossible to flip from fuel to EV in Long Beach (Los Angeles ) Port despite
80 million in funding already.
1000 plus port trucks and other equipment and the almost impossible charging infrastructure required.
A tiny bit of that cash is in a little test and link to the program which is thought to be impossible.
"The California Energy Commission awarded a $9.7 million grant toward the expected $13.7 million total cost of this project, one of the nation’s largest demonstration and deployment for zero-emissions cargo-handling equipment. The project will be undertaken at Piers G, J, and F and includes nine electric rubber-tire gantry cranes, 12 yard tractors, and four hybrid and electric drayage trucks, as well as workforce development training programs" Program Details - Port of Long Beach (polb.com)
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The ten biggest questions in energy & climate tech, Question 9