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    MAN and Scania trucks in the fleet both have lane keeping assistance. Don't take over the steering, luckily! On many of the bush roads we travel on, they give lots of "false positives" where there's shiny strips of bitumen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post

    It will be interesting if insurance companies start charging higher premiums for vehicles which lack safety equipment, arguing that vehicles without safety equipment are more likely to crash and make a claim on their insurance policies.
    Lets hope they never do that,insuring an old model Defender or series vehicle will become very expensive

    And thinking more about it,vehicles with all this tech are much more difficult to repair,so no doubt insurance premiums will rise for the safe vehicles anyway.

    Windscreens are very expensive,and just imagine the cost to go to LR to have the camera in the windscreen recalibrated.

    The glass guys can do garden variety brands at their workshops,which is still a nuisance,but at least the cost is reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
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    It will be interesting if insurance companies start charging higher premiums for vehicles which lack safety equipment, arguing that vehicles without safety equipment are more likely to crash and make a claim on their insurance policies.
    Insurance companies today base their insurance premiums on what that particular model costs them. In other words they base their premiums on what is effectively a combination of the number of accidents the vehicle is involved in and the cost of repairs when they have an accident, and the value of the vehicle (which determines their maximum liability). Another significant factor in some cases is the incidence of theft of a particular model, and in this regard, antitheft equipment (or lack of) and desirability as a getaway car are major factors.

    It is very unlikely that this method of calculating premiums will change, particularly with the increased scrutiny of insurance companies, as regulators are likely to demand to see the real life data - which is what they actually use today.

    As I have pointed out before, the insurance company data (according to MUARC) shows no obvious correlation between safety features and accident rates (either positive or negative); vehicle colour shows a better correlation (white or yellow is best!). Without this real data they are not going to change.

    The major variable in repair costs is the cost of parts and the difficulty of repairs, and both of these are likely to increase with more safety features, although they also vary enormously between manufacturers, and this is likely to be the biggest factor in most cases, swamping the varying accident rate.
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    Ever just go WOW? I did tonight. I posted a less edited version on an investment forum. I think some of you will see why my jar dropped

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    China has a target of 1,000,000 fuel cell vehicles by 2030 . Very exciting new for....
    
    Ballard Comments on China’s New Policy to Support Adoption of Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles - FuelCellsWorks
    
    I am holding a ...
    Current Hydrogen capacity by country data is only a little dated at 2017. The spreadsheet shows china at a very low level, comparatively wise, to US, South Korea and Japan.
    Scaling up CLEAN hydrogen Production needed for existing steel, chemical and the existing 7000 odd FCEV buses, trucks and similar already operation in China. Add a million to that number adds a multiplier effect share holders ... smiling
    
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    Contemplated if I waffle to much over a little whisky and re read this again. Excuse me if I do waffle to much I assume a few will be interested.
    
    Fun facts- Whisky inspired "Driving the FCEV for an hour can scrub enough air for about 42.6 adults. (calculations based on Hyundai NEXO)"
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    UK is moving to ban fossil fuel cars, but not trucks, faster than expected.

    UK plans to bring forward ban on fossil fuel vehicles to 2030 | Environment | The Guardian
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    Germany has added $9 billion Euro, France $7 Billion to Hydrogen. $2 Billion of the German money if for hydrogen outside Germany

    Follow the money is getting very easy

    The Tesla battery day was interesting. Much longer range. https://www.youtube.com/embed/l6T9xIeZTds

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    UK is moving to ban fossil fuel cars, but not trucks, faster than expected.

    UK plans to bring forward ban on fossil fuel vehicles to 2030 | Environment | The Guardian
    They can ban whatever they like,but if there is nothing as convenient as we have now to replace them with,thatís the ban out the window.

    Itís just another Ďlook good,feel good Ď comment.And a way to look more popular.

    It would be a very game government to do something like that,as we are many,many years away from something like that ever happening.The technology and infrastructure is just not around,and itís not going to suddenly appear in 10 yrs time.

    In fact many Vehicle manufacturers are still doing R&D on diesels.
    They are long,long way from being dead.
    paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    They can ban whatever they like,but if there is nothing as convenient as we have now to replace them with,thatís the ban out the window.

    Itís just another Ďlook good,feel good Ď comment.And a way to look more popular.

    It would be a very game government to do something like that,as we are many,many years away from something like that ever happening.The technology and infrastructure is just not around,and itís not going to suddenly appear in 10 yrs time.

    In fact many Vehicle manufacturers are still doing R&D on diesels.
    They are long,long way from being dead.
    Your right of course. Dying but not dead would be the most optimistic / pessimistic view (Pick your side )

    "California Plans to Ban Sales of New Gas-Powered Cars in 15 Years
    The proposal would speed up the stateís efforts to fight global warming at a time when California is being battered by wildfires, heat waves and other consequences of climate change."
    Regardless of each big fire/ cyclone/ hurricane/ typhoon/Flooding/Drought costing about a billion $$$$+++ which is/is not (Pick your side ) caused directly or indirectly by C02 induced climate change.

    How long will insurance cover the millions impacted by those events? My pick is not long regardless of which side of any fence we sit on. Sitting on the fence might give us splinters


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    Tesla's "battery day" includes the forecast that they will be able to produce a $25,000 car in five years as a result of improvements in their batteries.
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