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Promises promises or just waffle? The American one I have mentioned is still at or close to a very nice year high. Toj0 might have been clever to wait and lurk perhps?



Writing about solid-state batteries feels like waiting for a train that’s always five minutes away, but it never actually arrives. Automakers have been developing these ‘holy grail’ batteries for years, but we’re yet to see a real-world mass-market application.
The bold claims, however, continue to land much faster than the tech itself. But what their makers intend to do with this technology can speak volumes as well. At the recently concluded Japan Mobility Show, Toyota said that its solid-state batteries are designed to last 40 years.
If that’s true, that would be about 2.7 times the average age of a passenger vehicle in the U.S. as of 2025, which now stands at 14.5 years according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

from Toyota's 40-Year Solid-State Battery Could Change Everything We Know About EVs

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Lotus bought the engine from Ford. In the ford version it wasn't cross flow so carbs were above the exhaust.

Lotus made it crossflow so carbs above the distributor. Two big webers and a bit of a leak here and there. Fibreglass body and we're off to the races.

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Wow... the only sensible fix for that is converting to fuel injection (movign the dizzie is too hard).

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Wow... the only sensible fix for that is converting to fuel injection (movign the dizzie is too hard).

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Could do but I think the point we're at now we're just trying to keep it as original as possible. I keep a really close eye on it. Like I've said before, whenever I push it out and hook up the battery I like to have a clear retreat point and a direct line to the fire extinguisher [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Could do but I think the point we're at now we're just trying to keep it as original as possible. I keep a really close eye on it. Like I've said before, whenever I push it out and hook up the battery I like to have a clear retreat point and a direct line to the fire extinguisher [bigwhistle]

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I'd buy two of these for this car

4x4 Firestryker - The Technology

they look deeply impressive in the demonstrations. I have one friend who's Citroen DS19 burnt (a late 50's model, rare and almost impossible to find). He had an extinguisher with him, it lasted such a short time he couldn't put the fire out (they exhaust very quickly ). the firesticks sound like a potassium generator ... if it lasts 100seconds ... and you have two. If that doesn't put the fire out, well, nothing was going to! Two of these woudl be about 3 minutes of fire fighting rather than the 20 seconds you might get from a car extinguisher.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I'd buy two of these for this car

4x4 Firestryker - The Technology

they look deeply impressive in the demonstrations. I have one friend who's Citroen DS19 burnt (a late 50's model, rare and almost impossible to find). He had an extinguisher with him, it lasted such a short time he couldn't put the fire out (they exhaust very quickly ). the firesticks sound like a potassium generator ... if it lasts 100seconds ... and you have two. If that doesn't put the fire out, well, nothing was going to! Two of these woudl be about 3 minutes of fire fighting rather than the 20 seconds you might get from a car extinguisher.

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Very interesting. Expensive but seems quite different to a normal FE. Will have a look into it.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

We can certainly agree on that.
Well known bike brands making “e-pedal” bikes are using quality circuits and cells.
I haven’t seen any reports of them burning up.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said for the DIY and cheap “e-motorbikes” (and that’s what they are) which can suffer from poor installation, poor construction etc. these are well documented for letting the smoke out.


The fire guarding on a building is a good idea, also likely to be an insurance requirement nowadays.

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The fire authorities around here are saying over 90% of lithium battery fires are caused by either the wrong charger being used,or a cheap charger and or equipment, bought on line.
Using the correct charger for the correct equipment is a must.

They are not talking about vehicle fires.

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Originally Posted by scarry

The fire authorities around here are saying over 90% of lithium battery fires are caused by either the wrong charger being used,or a cheap charger and or equipment, bought on line.
Using the correct charger for the correct equipment is a must.

They are not talking about vehicle fires.

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This is the problem. With small cheap lithium they rely on the charger to regulate things. Small expensive lithium tend to have a BMS built in and are safe.

In cars, the smarts are in the car to control the charger. The "Chargers" are actually just electricity supply equipment. EVSE. Which is why vehicle fires are also astonishingly rare.

Recently, I got wind of a new Prelude being produced by Honda. This sparked my interest (my name on this forum SHOULD give you a hint :P)

Deep down I kinda hate the concept because a part of the car is FAKE but on the other hand I respect the maker for trying to at least appeal to my petrolhead side whilst still trying to push a (what is in essence a series) hybride.

Apparently, the ICE is specifically tuned so that it will run really frugal and environmentally friendly, but, if I want to hoon around like a jobbo it will give me as close to a real experience it can give you. I guess it beats fake cars with fake V8 sounds from the speaker grills [bighmmm]

In essence, the ICE drives a generator which powers an electric motor that drives the wheels. When driving normally a battery buffer takes on regen and acceleration and what not and the ICE plods along where needed to provide just enough power to keep up and run the engine in I guess an atkinson cycle? to be very clean and frugal. If however you put it in sport or sport+ mode or whatever, the engine (and "gearbox") will act completely as if you were racing a flappy paddle gearbox sportscar. When you accelerate the ICE spins up to max rpm, during gearshifts a computer simulates a small jerk through the electric motor, the ICE indeed drops down in RPM etc. etc. still whilst only running the generator to provide power.

So, although the drivetrain is a simulation, you still get all the feel, smell, sound of the original. A few pages back there was a discussion on what new car people would get. For me, that is a contender :)

Cheers,
-P

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Originally Posted by prelude

So, although the drivetrain is a simulation, you still get all the feel, smell, sound of the original. A few pages back there was a discussion on what new car people would get. For me, that is a contender :)

Cheers,
-P

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This is hilarious. I would ignore any government mandate and stupidity and buy what I want. I couldn't care in the slightest what some woke morons in government think.

Its like releasing a twin cab ute with the same drivetrain you explain here. Sure a 1.5 litre petrol motor (so petrol electric) may work in a car, as your weeny little breathless petrol motor can keep the battery charged for periods of high demand. In ute designed to carry loads and tow .... high demand is "nearly always". If I throw 1/2 ton on the tray and a builders trailer on the back. The battery will die almost immediately leaving me with a breathless 1.5litre petrol motor along with all the generating losses trying to move you along. Just insane ... Would it even be capable of moving up a steep hill ... or do the 50km/h speed limit in town?

they can keep there stupidty, I'm not buying in.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

This is hilarious. I would ignore any government mandate and stupidity and buy what I want. I couldn't care in the slightest what some woke morons in government think.

Its like releasing a twin cab ute with the same drivetrain you explain here. Sure a 1.5 litre petrol motor (so petrol electric) may work in a car, as your weeny little breathless petrol motor can keep the battery charged for periods of high demand. In ute designed to carry loads and tow .... high demand is "nearly always". If I throw 1/2 ton on the tray and a builders trailer on the back. The battery will die almost immediately leaving me with a breathless 1.5litre petrol motor along with all the generating losses trying to move you along. Just insane ... Would it even be capable of moving up a steep hill ... or do the 50km/h speed limit in town?

they can keep there stupidty, I'm not buying in.

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We've had this discussion. Of all the people who buy twincab utes, the majority of them drive around the city empty and are used for the same duties we've always used the family laser for. For the vast majority of of users, for the vast majority of the time, a small hatch would be the best tool for the job, but if your ego is too big for that a PHEV is not a bad option.

Yes there are some that hook a trailer on and make them work but I bet the actual percentage who do that often are probably much smaller than you think.

There are multiple videos now on YT of tow tests of the "wave" of phev utes. They seem to go ok. Unless you are towing something really big they work fine and offer you a nice big battery to run your stuff off when stopped.

Australians buy a lot of dual cab utes. our best selling "cars" are dual cabs.

VFACTs June 2025: Dual-cab utes dominate sales in Australia