Thread: EV general discussion

Apparently there was an ADR issue.

Janus Electric trucks given go-ahead to start commercial trials

Does this extra axle weight on single wheel steering axles mean that the axle loads increase and so increase damage to the road surface?

If so they should be charged for that.
Regards PhilipA

Oh no, they're electric vehicles!

Wider tyres would spread the extra weight.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I Love Shark Bay- Lived in Denham for not nearly long enough! A bit further south the Hydrogen plant almost read at Woodsman Point signed a deal with Mitsui Group. "It is one of the largest keiretsu in Japan and one of the largest corporate groups in the world."

Deal is over Graphite development "Under the MOU, Hazer and Mitsui have agreed to conduct an initial marketing survey of applications of Hazer’s low emissions graphite in the steel making and chemicals industries, utilising Mitsui’s global network. This MOU is a result of an extensive period of technology review and market assessment conducted by Mitsui."
Its non exclusive so EV Batteries perhaps?

Denham is a demonstration plant- Bespoke and expensive and not suitable for everywhere. The Model will suit a lot of places I think when cost reductions I see as highly likely in this sector soon. Like Battery so called Giga sized factories Hydrogen fuel cells and Hydrogen electrolysis are following the mass production Price reduction cost curve.

Tata and Cummins announcement today on joint development for Mobile Hydrogen Fuel cells has some possible impact on Landrover

So much happening my head is spinning.

ON EV only. My Mgs Side mirror was not folding in - Took it back and it was fixed in a hour or two- reset and testing software not hardware. 30,000. I was reminded its due for its 2nd service at 40,000 km That did put a smile on my dial!

I wonder if I will have new tires before it gets its 2nd service? We often chuckle about the sealed for life gear boxes on newer Landrovers. Not sure if I will need to hack the MG like I did to the Discos gear box to change the oil- Doubt it!

So much happening my head is spinning.

You need to see a Doctor, that can't be roight.

No FBT rulz Looks like EV and hybrid get a little cheaper for everyone and a lot cheaper if you can Salary Sacrifice.

The Hybrid inclusion forced to get the EV rules in is a little like the EU C02 free Nuclear and Gas in the EU Green energy taxonomy " EU Taxonomy Regulation outlines the classification system for what are considered environmentally sustainable economic activities, "

Here at least the Hybrid inclusion is sunseted legally at 2025!

"The Albanese Labor Government has secured the support of the Australian Greens for its electric vehicle (EV) incentives bill, though not without a couple of amendments.
The Greens and the Government have agreed to the following amendments to the Treasury Laws Amendment (Electric Car Discount) Bill:

• Sunsetting support for plug-in hybrids on April 1, 2025
• Prioritising electric vehicles in the Australian Government’s fleet procurement policy by removing plug-in hybrids except in “exceptional circumstances” Link

...the ATO will issue guidance on when household charging technology can be included within fringe benefits tax-exempt vehicle packages (FBT again)"


With dozens of third party helpers with salary sacrificed car leasing I suspect most business will very be approachable as it helps with staff retention as well!

dooH niboR robbing the poor to pay the rich.
great Labor principle.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

dooH niboR robbing the poor to pay the rich.
great Labor principle.
Regards PhilipA

Two of my receptionist are considering it now I think having more new efficient cars cycling into the second hand markets is good for lower income types as well.

FBT exemptions and the $85K limit stop me buying a ev Porsche Just kidding- not a chance I would!
Porsche electric motor for modern drive technology. - Porsche AG
I do know some one who has ordered one of the ev Taycan. 2.8seconds to 100kph. Bucket seat required for that Fast take off on my bikes with helmet on required very good neck muscles a new "Honda CBR1000RR-R SP 0-60 mph in 3.13 seconds" Mine old things were just a bit slower.

My sad thought is the Land Rover Hydrogen due in a year or two will be priced over the limit as well.

The only unique problem with EVs is that once they come out of lease at 5 years let's say, the chances of battery failure on cheap EVs is greatly increased with huge risk to say pensioners who would perhaps buy one. The cost of a new battery would devastate a low income person. Where a Honda Jazz for example would be expected to last over 200KK or 10 years without major problems that exceed say $2000 over its life.

Look at the history of Nissan Leaf where even relatively recent ones have much reduced range and many battery failures.

It is too early to know the incidence on MG EV's although I think you yourself have had a pretty poor experience with the range not being as advertised even when new so how will it be in 5 years?
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by Narangga

Apparently there was an ADR issue.

Janus Electric trucks given go-ahead to start commercial trials

As well as a BS issue. The claimed distance of 400KM with a 600KWH battery works for a load of around 12 tonnes all in - so the truck and trailer before you stick anything on it. Even with just a 10 tonne load my calculations show a range of 240KM for the 600KWH pack. Same as Tesla's claims are BS as well when you work out some half decent loads.