Thread: EV general discussion

EVs have issues as do most things taken from certain angles. Quick post in the Computer shop today reminded me how stuff changes SOO quickly. My 10/100 ish Network hub is now a Gigabit Ethernet 10 times as fast and fat channels and cost me in $$ just 1/10 of old the fried heavy beast!

We change a bit as well of course

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron;3193904

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In a big country like australia they make no sense at all, unless maybe you lived in the middle of a capital city.
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86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=AU

Originally Posted by vnx205

86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=AU

So the government doesn’t care about the other 14% ?

The cult of the EV…

Originally Posted by vnx205

86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=AU

Yes, but you are missing the next most important problem that makes this whole electric car caper a complete farce.

top20cars.jpg

They are not what the majority of people want (or need). Here is the top selling cars in australia 2022.



Mostly they are pretend 4wds, 4wds and twin cab utes. Now ..... Show me all the electric 4wd and twin cab utes ..... They don't actually exist. If you look at the seppo electric "trucks" (aka: twin cab utes) .... The things are utterly useless for there designed use due to severe range limitations when towing/carrying loads .... and high recharge times.

Originally Posted by vnx205

86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=AU

And 86% of those don't want an EV...

Same story it was 3 years ago which OEM's haven't been able to solve - range, recharging time and cost. And I don't want to hear 'You can get 80% charge in 20 minutes from a super charger' - this ends up ****ing the battery long term and there's **** all of them around. 'battery costs are coming down' - complete BS - Battery prices have risen 20% in the last 12 months.

And even if you are for EV's for all the right reasons, if we replaced EVERY car, 4WD and truck on Australian roads tomorrow with EV's - that would only cut emissions by 8% - assuming ALL the power to charge them was 100% renewable. The big push for EV's is to divert the attention away from the BIG polluters - who pay the Gubment to maintain focus elsewhere.

Soooo -

I'm sure I'll be thought of again as an EV hater for posting this - which isn't true as I love EV tech and think they have a place and fit into some peoples lifestyle very well, but why is there such a huge push to hoodwink everyone into guilt buying them to save the planet when we'll get so little bang for buck doing this???

Originally Posted by vnx205

86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=AU

My family live in urban areas…. You couldn’t drive an EV from one Aunties house to the other and return in a basic EV without a charge - and that’s all Urban around the same city.

So what’s your point? Logic would suggest Mopeds, Bicycles and walking would be more effective.

Originally Posted by Tombie

My family live in urban areas…. You couldn’t drive an EV from one Aunties house to the other and return in a basic EV without a charge - and that’s all Urban around the same city.

So what’s your point? Logic would suggest Mopeds, Bicycles and walking would be more effective.

Don't they have a 3->500km range these days. I don't see that as an issue. So long as you have the time to recharge overnight ... I have phones, computers... tools with lithium batteries. You get 5 years if your lucky. Anyone for a worthless 5year old car because it needs a battery pack that is probably multiples of its market value (as its market value will be tiny as it needs a battery pack).

I'm not anti-electric car .... I'm just anti-stupidity. Anything that can't be driven for at least 15years without major repair is just nuts. 15years sounds like a long time, but that's only a 2008 model car. I don't even own a car that is that young.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Don't they have a 3->500km range these days. I don't see that as an issue. So long as you have the time to recharge overnight ...

Supposedly… unless it’s hot/cold/windy etc

A 470km range Tesla cannot get 320km a lot of the time.