Thread: EV general discussion

First Model 3 at 30K asking price on Carsales.
Going doooown.

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

First Model 3 at 30K asking price on Carsales.
Going doooown.

Regards PhilipA

2020 model, 115k on the clock, $30K The ad quotes a range of 470km, which it wouldn't have got when new. Only the showoff or the ill informed ( often the same thing ) would be buying such a thing, with its upcoming need for a batt replacement.

That bloke in the UK with the yt channel ( hard to watch, but informative on a shouty level ) has seen mindblowing depreciation on his Taycan. If he'd bought the car he wants now, some form of ICE 911, sure he would have had instant "driven off the showroom floor" depreciation, but his car would still be worth about 75-80% of his purchase price, not 25%.

It'll end in tears. The super cheap Panda country rubbish is already a disposable commodity, cos who is going to stump up for a new batt in one of those? And will the Panda country take responsibility for said disposal? Like hell they will. So much for "green, zero emission environmental friendliness". And the grid still can't cope with the things, and likely never will.

But EVangelists still hold out their hands for other people's money with no conscience.

There's a bit of an irony in the bleats of "Australia is a dumping ground for dirty polluting ICE vehicles that cant be sold anywhere else" when in fact we are on the receiving end of a very large proportuion of subsidised Chinese production because everywhere else has imposed big tariffs on them. I suppose it's not like we have a local car industry though and if I can buy a cheap EV and throw it away when its flat its a win for everyone except the environment.....Oh wait, what was the benefit of EVs again...

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by Tote

There's a bit of an irony in the bleats of "Australia is a dumping ground for dirty polluting ICE vehicles that cant be sold anywhere else" when in fact we are on the receiving end of a very large proportuion of subsidised Chinese production because everywhere else has imposed big tariffs on them. I suppose it's not like we have a local car industry though and if I can buy a cheap EV and throw it away when its flat its a win for everyone except the environment.....Oh wait, what was the benefit of EVs again...

Regards,
Tote

Like the cheaper price bit. Do you want to pay MORE
Note of course "Tariffs are paid by the buyers not the seller" Where they are used to protect essential industry they might have a place. Free trade is a funny thing. We Export billions of iron ore wheat, wool, fish, crayfish, cotton, services and a lot more

Back to EVs "Smart" #1 and #2 are apparently coming to Aus in September 2024. Its a JV
"The Smart #1 and #3 have both been confirmed for Australia, including in flagship Brabus performance guises, though local specifications haven’t been revealed.In China, they offer single rear-mounted electric motors producing up to 200kW of power and 343Nm of torque, paired with a 66kWh nickel-cobalt-manganese battery.
Brabus versions add a front electric motor and boost outputs to 315kW and 543Nm.
Smart is now joint-owned by Geely and Mercedes-Benz, and all its cars are built in Xi’an, China."

What got my interest is a #5 which is a concept only sadly. Integrated winch ring anyone's bell?

Off-road concept previews largest Smart ever | CarExpert


No towing details of course

I suppose it is to be expected from someone that cannot spell "braking":

The EV battery trick that can save you money on the road: 'Very efficient'


The EV battery trick that can save you money on the road: 'Very efficient' (yahoo.com)

A surprising feature of electric vehicles has become a new talking point after one early adopter revealed a little-known trick that pumped power back into her car’s battery — while she was driving. Motorist Jacinta Green has shared her delight at watching her car's battery "tick backwards like the Ferrari in Ferris Mueller’s Day off" as the battery gained power while on the road.
Jacinta Green, who lives in rural Bungaba in NSW, said she was driving her MG Essence in sports mode and KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) through slow-moving traffic in the Blue Mountains region just outside Sydney when she noticed power was going back into the battery.
She told Yahoo News Australia the trick was made possible through regenerative breaking, a feature on all EVs, and saw her car battery charge go from 23 per cent to over 35 per cent full while driving between 35 and 40km/h and breaking often.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Like the cheaper price bit. Do you want to pay MORE



Off-road concept previews largest Smart ever | CarExpert


No towing details of course

What was old is new, again. With a big "Thanks" to 3Toes for this photo.


Strap1.jpg

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Like the cheaper price bit. Do you want to pay MORE
Note of course "Tariffs are paid by the buyers not the seller" Where they are used to protect essential industry they might have a place. Free trade is a funny thing. We Export billions of iron ore wheat, wool, fish, crayfish, cotton, services and a lot more

Back to EVs "Smart" #1 and #2 are apparently coming to Aus in September 2024. Its a JV
"The Smart #1 and #3 have both been confirmed for Australia, including in flagship Brabus performance guises, though local specifications haven’t been revealed.In China, they offer single rear-mounted electric motors producing up to 200kW of power and 343Nm of torque, paired with a 66kWh nickel-cobalt-manganese battery.
Brabus versions add a front electric motor and boost outputs to 315kW and 543Nm.
Smart is now joint-owned by Geely and Mercedes-Benz, and all its cars are built in Xi’an, China."

What got my interest is a #5 which is a concept only sadly. Integrated winch ring anyone's bell?

Off-road concept previews largest Smart ever | CarExpert


No towing details of course

Gives new meaning to the olde "The Rag Trade TV series 1961 "Everybody out".


Miriam Karlin & the usual mob of misfits.