Nuclear

Our good mates the Poms giving a very good explanation on power link BBC scince

Had a look at a huge array of nuclear plants built and being built in India this morning. They are just over 1% of power from Nuclear.

Another report showing pollution costs India $96USD billion every year for health and economic cost was perhaps even more interesting as the trillion plus needed to fix the dirty power supply in India may actually be much cheaper than the current plans which is killing a huge amount of people and costing them billions each year.

Looking at air pollution after listening about the death of a 9 year old girl in London. I think the Doctor who nailed it was remarkable myself.

Rosamund didn’t know why any of this was happening.How did her kid go from being perfectly healthy… to being in the ICU in just a couple of months… Ella would go to some of the best doctors in London, many different hospitals

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, and no one could tell them what was going on. After the break, the story of Ella’s medical mystery - and how it made the invisible visible. full transcript

RIP

Ella. Happy to hear your not forgotten by your very cool mum or the world

Every now and again I wonder how I can miss very big news. Mia Culpa. 2018 Noble prize is huge news.

10,000 years storage for nuclear waste cut to just 30 minutes is an amazing change.

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I am not having a go at wind or solar. The scale needed is massive and growing. All options are needed. Nuclear is one of them.

Teewtter[thumbsupbig]

Not mine but a OMG when you think about it in terms of what is needed for C02 free!


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Over the last 20 years world governments have spent north of $5 trillion on "green" energy. That has taken fossil fuels share of primary energy from 86% to 84% and world oil consumption increased from 77 million barrels per day to 100 million barrels per day. Do you get it?

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I am not having a go at wind or solar. The scale needed is massive and growing. All options are needed. Nuclear is one of them.

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I don't understand the need for nuclear power when we have a ball of nuclear energy in the sky, that generates solar and wind energy that we can use easily and safely to generate power. For a lot of the world it has got to be cheaper and quicker install solar panels and even batteries than build a nuclear power station and transmission lines to rural villages.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I don't understand the need for nuclear power when we have a ball of nuclear energy in the sky, that generates solar and wind energy that we can use easily and safely to generate power. For a lot of the world it has got to be cheaper and quicker install solar panels and even batteries than build a nuclear power station and transmission lines to rural villages.

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A little trivia on the sun. Kilogram for kilogram. 1 kg of the sun produces less energy than our compost bins/pile[biggrin]

As much solar as possible is not nearly enough I understand. Power consumed in the "EU in 2020 amounted to 37 086 PJ," (10301667GW)
item 2 "By the end of 2019, a cumulative amount of 629 GW of solar power" entire world

I think you can see the gap? Grow solar by a factor of 16377.85[bighmmm] is not possible and thats just the EU! Add China, USA and India perhaps and that number is more like a few million times to get even close

Add we need much more electricity to replace fossil fuel We need solar but need a lot more than it can provide.

Having lived on solar for 3 years & raised 6 kids , I see the biggest issue being waste .
I look how others use their power & see that most could reduce their power usage by nearly half ,simply by taking sensible notice of their power usage .
Living with a limited resource has made acutely aware of what I do .
I run a business & a workshop & my power usage is around half of that used by friends in a purely domestic situation .
I did not really appreciate how much I wasted , for no gain whatsoever , until I had to supply my own.
It is not always possible , especially in a commercial situation , but if you take a critical look , you will soon see how much waste there is , not just power .

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

A little trivia on the sun. Kilogram for kilogram. 1 kg of the sun produces less energy than our compost bins/pile[biggrin]

As much solar as possible is not nearly enough I understand. Power consumed in the "EU in 2020 amounted to 37 086 PJ," (10301667GW)
item 2 "By the end of 2019, a cumulative amount of 629 GW of solar power" entire world

I think you can see the gap? Grow solar by a factor of 16377.85[bighmmm] is not possible and thats just the EU! Add China, USA and India perhaps and that number is more like a few million times to get even close

Add we need much more electricity to replace fossil fuel We need solar but need a lot more than it can provide.

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Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

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I Love wind John

More the better sir

Scale up is a little above my ability to calculate. I do know wind is often the most cost effective option if put in the right spot. I did hear every bit we can produce in optimal spots in a very cool Western state have been flagged for use[bigwhistle] I also hear those billion $$$ projects cover just a fraction of the need they are going to cover. I think I added a link to that huge WA project in the Hydrogen Thread? Just in case a link again

Nuclear is really the only other Carbon free option to fill the HUGE gap unless Fusion greats unlimited free power. I am often wrong of course. [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

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IIRC the rule of thumb is a factor of three, installed capacity versus power produced as the wind doesn't blow all the time.

I've never been anti nuclear power generation.

I have been against the manner in which it is done , the cost involved and the time it takes to actually design and commission a nuclear power generation facility. It seems the world governments still prefer to develop nuclear weapons than a true cost efficient power generation facilities.

One of the biggest requirements for any type of thermal power generation of which nuclear power is , is cooling water, huge supplies of it.

For some reason , the proposers of nuclear power stations want them to be a massive industrial development focussed in the centre of development.

Ships/submarines use small, very efficient nuclear plants and have shown to be extremely safe and durable.

Why can't small efficient similar plants be dotted around our planet , just as the other alternate power generators are doing , and negating the need for huge water supplies for cooling , centralisation of populations and logistics and better selection of sites.

After the demise of the current dinosaur generators , I don't think there will ever be a population centralised industry in this country again.