Electric Overland trucks

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Not taking it personally at all mate - it’s just that you just haven’t provided anything remotely plausible explaining how one would go about such a thing is all but prattle on with your holier than thou attitude as if you’re the only one who is right. Myself and others that have posted here are PRO EV - We have mentioned that but we want to know how to do long remote travel in one - you said it’s possible, then said it will be possible soon, then said build a custom rig - all without actually talking about how to do that.

I’m all ears now with this custom rig bit - please explain the 1000KM plus remote off road tourer to me as far as battery packs, weight, etc go - remember of course to allow for extra power usage when crossing hilly or soft terrain, What vehicle base you’d use, total GVM, battery pack weight and KWH rating, motor size and cost.

I await the details.

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If you would just stop sprattling on for the moment and check what this here thread is all about. In the very first post I was showcasing how things will look in the future, nothing else. Your accisations are missing the Point completely as I was not making any claims at all, just presenting what's on offer. As stated previosly, I am not trying to convince you (I see no point in doing that), just showing interested mates what is/can be/will be possible soon. I feel those news are inspiring and encouraging.
None of the vehicles presented in the linked article are available in Australia right now (btw this applies to the New Defender as well, although are there plenty of threads about it) but probably will be in the not too distant future.
Bragging on about how far you will venture off the beaten track is also rather pointless as others may have different travel patterns. I am not asking either how many kms you have done in EVs, so in your case I'd keep a lower profile and talk about things you know instead of repeating stuff you've read elsewhere.
Just dismissing the whole idea of overland-EVs just because they may not be suited to any particular situation is akin to dismissing your truck as you cannot take your offspring's football team along to an interstate match in it.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I remember at one stage Tesla was talking about battery packs being swapped in and out, but that idea seems to have gone quiet.
I have seen mining trucks with engine packs that could be swapped to keep the truck working whil a failed engine pack was repaired, but it needs specialist equipment.

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Teslas battery pack can be swapped in 5 min flat and they had a couple of swapping stations in California, I think. These were soon closed since there was no demand as everyone was using Superchargers or charging at home/work. So the whole idea proved unneccessary in the end.

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Originally Posted by Jojo

If you would just stop sprattling on for the moment and check what this here thread is all about. In the very first post I was showcasing how things will look in the future, nothing else. Your accisations are missing the Point completely as I was not making any claims at all, just presenting what's on offer. As stated previosly, I am not trying to convince you (I see no point in doing that), just showing interested mates what is/can be/will be possible soon. I feel those news are inspiring and encouraging.
None of the vehicles presented in the linked article are available in Australia right now (btw this applies to the New Defender as well, although are there plenty of threads about it) but probably will be in the not too distant future.
Bragging on about how far you will venture off the beaten track is also rather pointless as others may have different travel patterns. I am not asking either how many kms you have done in EVs, so in your case I'd keep a lower profile and talk about things you know instead of repeating stuff you've read elsewhere.
Just dismissing the whole idea of overland-EVs just because they may not be suited to any particular situation is akin to dismissing your truck as you cannot take your offspring's football team along to an interstate match in it.

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Sigh, I’m not dismissing the idea, just asking how it may happen given the physics doesn’t add up. I’m not even going to explain any more to you or about what I do and do not know here, you won’t listen anyway. I’ll leave it by saying I’ve been working with power generation, isolated power supplies, motor control, batteries, localised power distribution and mains power distribution, both LV and HV full time for nearly 30 years. If that doesn’t give me the credentials to discuss this topic then nothing does. It’s nothing to do with what I’ve read on the internet, but observations, study and understanding based on what I do full time and get paid a decent whack for is all. I keep up with all the latest tech from the industry leaders, understand the chemistry and physics and efficiencies behind batteries and motors advise and get paid by large business for my expertise and knowledge in these areas - not the www on such things, but what do I know right?

I’m always here if people want to actually listen to my real world experience and understanding of these things not to get abused by those that go off what is written on an article and take it as gospel but as they say or those that smugly drive an EV and put others down because they don’t (guess who fits into that catagory around here [emoji6] ) - you can lead a horse to water...

You say what you want from here and badger whoever doesn’t agree with you - I won’t interrupt.

Knock yourself out with a reply as I know you can’t seem to leave things without having the last word, I promise not to reply and I’ll let you settle back smugly and thing you’ve put me in my place.

Over and out...

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Originally Posted by Red90

Please explain how to do a 1000 to 2000 km off road trip outside of civilization?

There is nothing wrong with an EV. But currently they are expensive and do not have suitable range for off road travel.

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When theres no Civilisation you wont be able to stop at a Servo & buy Petrol or Diesel to go into the remote outback.

You the last man on the planet you still be able to drive your EV 4x4 as long as you want , Just carry solar panels & wait to charge , you not going to be any hurry .

Didn't ye see the story of Mark French driving is Electrip Suzuki across the Nullabor , drive into the night, sleep, charge during the day , repeat . Took 4 days , Took me longer when I crossed in a Landy in '85.

Look how ****ed up the spell correct is, Above was all good as I typed it. ^^^

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Originally Posted by goingbush

When theres no Civilisation you wont be able to stop at a Servo & buy Petrol or Diesel to go into the remote outback.

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I can make petrol or diesel very easily. I design refineries. Electric is more of an issue as all batteries have a finite life. Making new compact batteries is not simple.

OMFG !

The future rarely turns out as expected or predicted.
When I was young and an economics student the cause célèbre was the need for a Fourth London airport as Heathrow, Stanstead and the city airport had reached capacity.
millions of pounds were expended on planning, environmental studies etc.

Then the Jumbo jet was invented.

regards PhilipA

"Predictions are difficult, especially about the future"

On the automotive front, I am still waiting for the flying car that was going to be available within ten years (before I was old enough to drive) - I am now altogether too close to eighty, and I see no real evidence it is any closer than it was in 1950. And that is just one unfulfilled prediction, although, now having a pilot's licence I understand fairly well why that one hasn't happened.

Of course, what happened is things we had not even thought of; for example:- cheap air travel; computers in almost every home; virtual disappearance of common childhood diseases; everyone (almost) completing high school, and nearly half doing tertiary education; the internet; mobile phones; affordable overseas phone calls; credit cards; GPS; and many more.

As Homestar sort of said, apologies for bastardising what he did say, battery technology isn't quite there yet for remote travel, but progress is being made, and I'm sure better batteries will be along soon.
Solar is also improving, and it may not be long before vehicles are completely covered in a flexible skin of solar panels, as experiments are mass produced.
Meanwhile, EVs already work in urban areas, but costs need to fall. The spread of charging stations will accelerate over the next decade.
I'm just interested to understand how society is changing. It's actually exciting.