Thread: Electric Overland trucks

I’m still not sure how the distance but is overcome.

“ It is also easy to dismiss electric 4WDs for overland travel, but even those limitations have been, or will be overcome (excluding extreme remote distances and polar travel)”

What constitutes ‘extreme remote distance’ - I could drive 1000KM easy in a weekend where there is pretty much zero power available and a few solar panels on the roof aren’t going to charge it, so even a long weekend in the bush is well beyond the capacity of any EV.

I’ll be called a hater which I’m not at all, I love EV tech but I think it’s a stretch to think you could really go bush in one.

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IMO there's a lot of 'rose coloured glasses' commentary related to EV's which totally ignores the impracticability of ownership in a country like Australia, by this I mean large and sparsely populated with little EV infrastructure.
Sure EV's might be practical in densely populated urban areas or European countrys with a town/charging station every couple of dozen K's (at worst), but not in Australian rural/remote areas.

I think this bloke sums it up pretty nicely.

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Deano

Not doubt your right today gents. My theory will be an EV can be more capable off road then petrol or diesel for several reasons. Range and Recharging is an issue. It was for petrol or diesel at first of course. Moving parts are a weak link we all know.

I will be happy to have a good range EV and very happy with a off road beast of an EV even if it is slightly range restricted today as I know shortly I will be able to toss a generator in the back to charge.

Just working with some sparkys this morning before work on a UPS gen set which is just batteries in a stand by power mode.

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My work UPS is flow batteries which are not a mobile option.

The fuel Cell option price and availability will be game changing in my thoughts. I do not take a generator when I go camping at the the moment mostly as I hate the noise. Not an issue with a fuel cell gen-set. A portable multi purpose H2 gen-set will be my work UPS and weekend/holiday EV charger possibly

I think I might put some gen sets across the Anne beadell as charging stations. I could also incorporate them into a camping ground so they can camp and get charged overnight. No problems for running a 60 litre fridge overnight either. Might also look at the Canning if the first is successful. Problem will be getting diesel fuel up there to run them or hire a couple of hectares of solar panels if I can get the permission. Of course I will have to negotiate with the native title holders and pay them. But I could maximise my profits because I would have a captive market.
Lindsay

Long haul is in the bag Gents https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/02/06/1981067/0/en/CNH-Industrial-brands-IVECO-and-FPT-together-with-Nikola-Motor-Company-announce-future-Nikola-TRE-production-in-Ulm-Germany.html

The thing is, most people are stuck in an old fashioned attitude and way of thinking. When living with and using EVs, you'll adapt and 'fear of running out' or 'short range' become less of an issue. Besides, even fossil fuel burning vehicles have a range limit. And when it comes to recharging/refilling: every filling station will have electricity and a power socket (unless it is making use of jerry cans only).
The only advantages of conventional vehicles are that there already is an established infrastructure for fuel supply (although any socket will do for an EV) and that liquid fuel is easier made portable (for the time being anyway).
Compare this to the advantages of EVs: much more quiet, no fumes, much easier to drive, way better offroad ability...

Disclaimer: I have been driving EV for five years now, about 200k kms. Like you, I have been sceptical, very sceptical, in the beginning. But now there is no turning back. It works in real life. Better than anything. And it will work even Down Under. Don't take my word for it, give it a try

Originally Posted by Jojo

The thing is, most people are stuck in an old fashioned attitude and way of thinking. When living with and using EVs, you'll adapt and 'fear of running out' or 'short range' become less of an issue. Besides, even fossil fuel burning vehicles have a range limit. And when it comes to recharging/refilling: every filling station will have electricity and a power socket (unless it is making use of jerry cans only).
The only advantages of conventional vehicles are that there already is an established infrastructure for fuel supply (although any socket will do for an EV) and that liquid fuel is easier made portable (for the time being anyway).
Compare this to the advantages of EVs: much more quiet, no fumes, much easier to drive, way better offroad ability...

Disclaimer: I have been driving EV for five years now, about 200k kms. Like you, I have been sceptical, very sceptical, in the beginning. But now there is no turning back. It works in real life. Better than anything. And it will work even Down Under. Don't take my word for it, give it a try

All good, and as I said I love EV tech but you haven’t explained how EVs can be used for remote or even semi remote travel/long weekends i’m the bush which this thread is about.

Soo, I’ve done a drive by the charging ration at moby dick servo four times and it’s been not available twice.

Just thinking, it’s not designed for a truck to pull in, it would need an extension cable for starters and than would be blocking everybody else.