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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The prize for misinformation must go to the Texas governor Greg Abbott. Apparently, shortly after telling the state that the primary cause of the grid collapse was the failure of 30% of the gas, coal and nuclear power due to the effects of low temperatures, he was on Fox News telling the audience that the failure was due to the wind turbines icing up.

    How about Ted Cruz? Flies out to Mexico with his family, & left Texas to fend for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The prize for misinformation must go to the Texas governor Greg Abbott. Apparently, shortly after telling the state that the primary cause of the grid collapse was the failure of 30% of the gas, coal and nuclear power due to the effects of low temperatures, he was on Fox News telling the audience that the failure was due to the wind turbines icing up.
    Here's the news on Texas.

    The underlying story of what happened in Texas appears to be fairly clear. Like many states, Texas has a partly deregulated electricity market, but deregulation has gone further there than elsewhere. In particular, unlike other states, Texas chose not to provide power companies with incentives to install reserve capacity to deal with possible emergencies. This made power cheaper in normal times, but left the system vulnerable when things went wrong.
    Texas authorities also ignored warnings about the risks associated with extreme cold. After a 2011 cold snap left millions of Texans in the dark, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission urged the state to winterize its power plants with insulation, heat pipes and other measures. But Texas, which has deliberately cut its power grid off from the rest of the country precisely to exempt itself from federal regulation, only partially implemented the recommendations.
    And the deep freeze came.
    A power grid poorly prepared to deal with extreme cold suffered multiple points of failure. The biggest problems appear to have come in the delivery of natural gas, which normally supplies most of the state’s winter electricity, as wellheads and pipelines froze. Nor was this merely a matter of the lights going out; people are freezing too, because many Texas homes have electric heat. Many of the homes without electrical heat rely on, yes, natural gas. We’re looking at enormous suffering and, probably, a significant death toll.


    Opinion | Texas, Land of Wind and Lies - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
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    It seems that there was also a failure of about 50% of natural gas production as production facilities shut down because of the cold. Almost all natural gas wells produce some water along with the gas, and the water is separated from the gas in a separator close to the well, since the water is likely to either freeze or form methane hydrates that have a similar effect (they are solid and stick to valves, bends etc).

    In normal Texas weather there is no need to worry about the short section of pipe from the well to the separator ........

    Add this to record demand for gas - many homes are electrically heated and the majority of power in Texas comes from gas, and the ones that are not electric heating use gas. So gas demand soared as supplies dropped. And the spot price of gas rose by 10,000%, so some generators shut down rather than produce power that would cost more for fuel than the capped price they could sell it for.
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    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting power into the grid, under proposed changes


    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting power into the grid, under proposed changes - ABC News

    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting electricity to the grid, under new rules being recommended by the Australian Energy Market Commission (AEMC).

    AEMC chief executive Ben Barr said the electricity grid was struggling to cope with the changing power landscape, which was generating more solar energy than ever before.



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    It seems that there was also a failure of about 50% of natural gas production as production facilities shut down because of the cold.
    I cannot let this one go without calling BS.
    There is a very thorough examination of the true situation in this analysis from WUWT using unarguable statistic from US regulators.

    Texas “Wind was operating almost as well as expected” – Part Deux – Watts Up With That?

    The bottom line is that wind failed first and went from 25% of electricity production to about 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I cannot let this one go without calling BS.
    There is a very thorough examination of the true situation in this analysis from WUWT using unarguable statistic from US regulators.

    Texas “Wind was operating almost as well as expected” – Part Deux – Watts Up With That?

    The bottom line is that wind failed first and went from 25% of electricity production to about 1%.
    Regards PhilipA

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    I found this quite interesting. Grady is pretty thorough I’ve found and gives a good overview. He’s a Texan as well so has some of his own experiences in the vid. I’m sure there’s more to the whole situation though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Farang View Post
    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting power into the grid, under proposed changes


    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting power into the grid, under proposed changes - ABC News

    Australians with rooftop solar panels could soon be charged for exporting electricity to the grid, under new rules being recommended by the Australian Energy Market Commission (AEMC).

    AEMC chief executive Ben Barr said the electricity grid was struggling to cope with the changing power landscape, which was generating more solar energy than ever before.


    Well that’s one way of trying to ease the issues on the grid... Not sure it will go down too well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Not sure it will go down too well.
    Who cares? The system has been penalising those who couldn't afford to jump in for years. Time for a level playing field.

    Not that I think this will give us that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I cannot let this one go without calling BS.
    There is a very thorough examination of the true situation in this analysis from WUWT using unarguable statistic from US regulators.

    Texas “Wind was operating almost as well as expected” – Part Deux – Watts Up With That?

    The bottom line is that wind failed first and went from 25% of electricity production to about 1%.
    Regards PhilipA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Who cares? The system has been penalising those who couldn't afford to jump in for years. Time for a level playing field.

    Not that I think this will give us that.

    someone how to pay for the modifications to the grid. who should pay for it?
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