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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post

    The feds have a bit of responsibility to keep it all reasonable and sensible because they actively encouraged people to convert to lpg with grants.

    Any big increase in the crude price will see servos putting the tanks back in.

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    Feds dont give a rats,it was some other Govt that did that,they would say.

    The tanks will never go back,there just isnt the demand,and it doesnt suit many modern vehicles.

    Taxis were the big market,they dropped off over 10 yrs ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Feds dont give a rats,it was some other Govt that did that,they would say.

    The tanks will never go back,there just isnt the demand,and it doesnt suit many modern vehicles.

    Taxis were the big market,they dropped off over 10 yrs ago.
    The factory Ford and Holden lpg cars are insanely good value. A mate has a Holden, utterly immaculate, that was offered to me by the PO for 5k, vapour injection, dual map stock.

    I didn't want it coz it is red, kinda kicking myself over that now. It is soooo cheap to drive and has all the poke of the petrol version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    Just heard on the wireless the other day that as of the 1st of July Victoria's new tax for electric cars starts.

    Apparently owners are to receive a letter asking for a photo of your odometer. Another photo again when rego is due and then a tax for KM's travelled.

    So not only are you being taxed you have to help them do it. It would be like you having to read your electricity meter for the power company(Pre smart meters when we did have meter readers come to our home)

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if the odometer became faulty, as there is no law requiring a working odometer in cars.

    Greedy governments at it again.
    Victorian Government are a joke. I would send them a fudged one, plus id be sure there is a law somewhere to prevent this..

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    And to ask for a payment of the tax once a year at rego time is appalling - putting the onus on the owner to correctly calculate the tax as they drive and have the money saved for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    The factory Ford and Holden lpg cars are insanely good value. A mate has a Holden, utterly immaculate, that was offered to me by the PO for 5k, vapour injection, dual map stock.

    I didn't want it coz it is red, kinda kicking myself over that now. It is soooo cheap to drive and has all the poke of the petrol version.

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    Problem would be over here getting fuel for it is like trying to find a charging point for a Tesla!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Problem would be over here getting fuel for it is like trying to find a charging point for a Tesla!


    Yes,thats a good point as well,it was only ever well priced and easily found in the city.
    In regional areas it was rediculously priced and difficult to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    And to ask for a payment of the tax once a year at rego time is appalling - putting the onus on the owner to correctly calculate the tax as they drive and have the money saved for it.
    A fair bit of time ago I sat on the first rock lobster management plan steering committee in a certain jurisdiction.

    There were 2 people from 'policy' in the department on that committee, fresh out of uni and they just sat there and didn't say much.

    Over about 15 years the number of policy people in the fisheries department grew to 28....... about 1 for every 4 commercial license holders (not licenses).

    I met some of these 28, who were full of all sorts of 'fresh ideas' and they had no idea of reality. They also thought they knew more than me.

    I even got paid at one stage to have a sit down so the department could get some sort of record together about why every management decision was made and in what context over the last 27 years.

    Last man standing with 'corporate memory'. Still goes on.

    The point I'm trying to get across is that these days these policy recommendations are made by people with very little real world experience, can't think outside of one dimension (space or time) coz they've never had to, and they have to comply with what they think the gov wants.

    Result: a rego system for EV's that will **** all the owners off and result in some owners looking to cheat, etc.There's always a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post

    The point I'm trying to get across is that these days these policy recommendations are made by people with very little real world experience, can't think outside of one dimension (space or time) coz they've never had to, and they have to comply with what they think the gov wants.

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    They either do that, or wait around and copy what is being done in another country,or State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    They either do that, or wait around and copy what is being done in another country,or State.
    That's kinda funny because one of the 2 policy people I mentioned in the previous post rose through the ranks and I would count as a friend, even though there's been no contact for a couple of years.

    He would ring to find out why this or that was so, and I'd tell him.

    There was a bit of an issue with the rec lobster catch in a certain area and single use tags were really the only way out.

    We talked about it and he said that sort of approach doesn't happen anywhere else in the world, asked me to find examples.

    I didn't have to go past the US, where high value species like tarpon (correct spelling.... not what Prince Charles fished for) where the recs had a limit of 2 tags that used to cost $50 each and there was a limit on tags, etc,etc. Heaps of examples that also included weekly and annual log books even for lesser species.

    Even in WA I'm pretty sure they use a fixed number of tags to cap the rec schnapper fishery in Shark Bay.

    He went nowhere with this approach because the government hadn't made a policy decision on capping rec catches of any species. More votes with the recs, etc, which had started years ago under a different government.

    So they don't always do what has been done for decades overseas coz policy can be too far behind at times and just toeing perceived gov interest.

    Some years later the gov did do the tag thing for rec lobsters, with no cap on the number of tags (??).

    The leader of a prominent rec group got on faceplant and told all and sundry how to cheat on some aspects of this (utterly 'legendary'), which supports my comment about cheating in the last post.

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