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    Coal is on the way out. Don't tell the Government

    Advanced green energy storage. Heard of it? You'll hear a lot more of it in the future. possibly the best thing to come out of the Glasgow conference was the Long Duration Energy Storage Council, the least known result of COP26. 24 hour dispatchable renewable power is the way of the future, and it starts at Broken Hill.




    Advanced green energy storage is writing coal's death certificate (thenewdaily.com.au)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Samual Clemens quote.

    “I can understand perfectly how the report of my illness got about, I have even heard on good authority that I was dead. James Ross Clemens, a cousin of mine, was seriously ill two or three weeks ago in London, but is well now. The report of my illness grew out of his illness.
    The report of my death was an exaggeration.”

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    The first sentence had me in stiches
    "Australia is sprinting towards 100 per cent renewable energy, 24/7, 365 days a year"

    Have you seen our knuckle dragging, fossil fuel loving prime minister? He might be racing out of an Engadine Maccas, but there's no way he's supporting a sprint towards renewables.

    EDIT - shoudlve read further before posting that Coal is on the way out. Don't tell the Government
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    I will try not to do as others do, but here is an article showing the real situation with coal usage throughout the World. IEA report produced after COP26.

    So whatever tiny Australia does it will have no impact so why are we closing coal fired plants?

    Regards PhilipA

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    The information in that article might be true, but given the track record of that site there is a real possibility that the information should be verified by finding other more reliable sites.

    According to this site
    Watts Up with That - Media Bias/Fact Check

    that site is not a reliable source of accurate information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I will try not to do as others do, but here is an article showing the real situation with coal usage throughout the World. IEA report produced after COP26.


    So whatever tiny Australia does it will have no impact so why are we closing coal fired plants?

    Regards PhilipA
    Someone has to start somewhere - if everyone has that approach then the worlds stuffed (if it isn’t already). While our efforts don’t mean much on the grand scheme of things, we certainly need to stand up and show the world it can be done IMO.
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    Someone has to start somewhere - if everyone has that approach then the worlds stuffed (if it isn’t already). While our efforts don’t mean much on the grand scheme of things, we certainly need to stand up and show the world it can be done IMO.
    At what cost?? Billions for batteries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I will try not to do as others do, but here is an article showing the real situation with coal usage throughout the World. IEA report produced after COP26.


    So whatever tiny Australia does it will have no impact so why are we closing coal fired plants?

    Regards PhilipA
    But we supply massive amounts of coal for international power production in china and india. They're our emissions too. Without our coal it wouldn't happen.

    And we need to move to renewables. And stop selling coal. Aussies are doing their part in killing the planet quite well. We also have amongst the highest emissions per Capita. Bit high and mighty of us to say others can't do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I will try not to do as others do, but here is an article showing the real situation with coal usage throughout the World. IEA report produced after COP26.

    So whatever tiny Australia does it will have no impact so why are we closing coal fired plants?

    Regards PhilipA

    This is the actual complete report:

    https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/as...f/Coal2021.pdf

    A couple of relevant quotes:

    "Renewable energy and nuclear power generation are expected tomeet ~39% of the increase in electricity demand in 2021, whileresidual growth of more than 800 TWh will be covered by coal andgas."

    "For 2022-2024, global power demand is expected to increase~2 099 TWh (annual average growth of 2.4%), of which a largeshare (91%) will be covered by additional renewable electricitygeneration. We expect a gap of more than 220 TWh to be filled bycoal- and gas-fired power generation. With
    forward prices pointingto a gas price drop, we expect gas to meet most of the remainingdemand "

    So, basically coal's just filling in the capacity gap for renewables. Get enough renewables on line in the right places and it won't be needed.

    Also, the stories about China building hundreds of new coal plants are a furphy: most of those plants either haven't been built or haven't been commissioned.
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    all of Australia's coal powered power stations are dinosaurs....there isn't a new or even young one.

    the maintenance costs are spiralling up wards as all the machinery is wearing out.....you would be surprised at the amount of machinery underneath the turbines and in the boiler stations just to keep the plant running

    the owners/investors are becoming concerned about operational cost and profitability losses

    that is why theyr'e shutting down , no none wants an unprofitable business when there are fresh billions being made in alternative power generation.

    btw, no one wants to build a new coal fired power station in Australia again....offers were open....no takers

    BHP has bailled out of coal , doesn't that ring alarm bells?

    still plenty of coal for those who want it.

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