Rhino roof rail differences

[Ashes]

I'm looking at getting some Rhino tracks and bars for the disco 3. Not looking to get a tray or rack at this stage but might consider one down that track though.

I'm looking to free up a bit of room in the cargo area by putting a couple of the larger items like the tent and maybe table on top of the car.

Just a couple of questions for those who researched and bought the Rhino bars.

What bar did you choose and why? Aero, heavy duty square? They just look like like different shapes to me.

How much trouble is installing the tracks. I've read some mixed reports on the site.
Cost wise, looks to be be around $450 for either option

[WhiteD3]

I had the tracks supplied and installed last year by ARB for $300 I think. I've just got 2 HD bars so I can put the tent (Black wolf turbo 300) and chairs on the roof to free up space in the cargo area.

I got the HD bars so I could borrow a mate's rhino basket (See my avatar) but I figured, as they won't live on the car, I should get the strongest bars.

[strudeltoowoomba]

I went with the heavy duty bars (3) and the Alloy Rack. As it stays on all the time I also wanted to add a roll out awning, shovel holder etc.

I have had the whole lot off a couple of times for and found it quite easy to undo the twelve screws and lift the whole lot off and on in one go. Mind you getting the fixing screws to line up was a bit fiddly but not too bad.

Not sure of the cost as I bought the rack and awning at the same time.

Personally if you are running just bars, I would imagine the aero bars would have less wind noise.

[eddomak]

I am about to fit the Rhino rails due to the lower profile and cheaper cost than the OEM ones. I was going to fit the Thule bars (since I am using Thule now on my Subaru Outback and like them) and share them with my brother in law who has a D3 with factory rails. So we bought the bars, but when they're fitted I don't like how much they protrude beyond the foot. I don't need that much rail space to carry really wide things. So we'll be trading it on for the Rhino RST (sporty, slanty looking bars). I saw these on a D3 in a carpark and it looks like it has a lower profile and I won't need to take them off when not using it.

[Guss]

I have the heavy duty square bar so I can fit a basket later. Apparently you can fit the basket to the aero bars but the square bars are recommonded, the fixtures are more heavy duty.

[Jay70]

I have a 2005 D3, I got the rack store to install the rails and 2 x 1350mm rhino HD aero bars. I asked about the HD square type for strength but was shown the cross section of both types and they suggested as much strength in the aero with much less wind noise.

I can hear the wind noise on the aero but not too bad. I agreed the square type look stronger. I carry hobie kayak and oztent and about to get a 3rd rail added on lower section of roof with a solid case sun awning.

[gps-au]

I have the heavy duty square bar so I can fit a basket later. Apparently you can fit the basket to the aero bars but the square bars are recommonded, the fixtures are more heavy duty.

funny enough thou, the bars might be heavier duty, and more drag, but the roof still wont take any extra weight with them.. :angel:

[eddomak]

Agreed - it seems the official load rating of the roof is quite low. Also, for my purposes I use my roof rack for a top-box (clothes, sleeping bags etc) and for moving furniture (I certainly can't easily lift >100kg's onto the high roof).

I recognise a lot of 4WD'ers will be trying to get spare tyres, jerry cans, recovery equipment etc on there...

[gps-au]

I recognise a lot of 4WD'ers will be trying to get spare tyres, jerry cans, recovery equipment etc on there...

On my old Suzuki Jimny, I put 2 aero bars on, & then a piece of "formply" (you know the 'waterproof" stuff), which was a attached using a few holes thru the ply and the shaped basket holders (throw away the flat plates). Work a treat, I even shorten by around 30cm and made that into a adjustable front deflector for the platform.

I tried the platform on the D3 over the weekend, and it works quite well.

BTW, using a full platform as such means it becomes a "tropical roof" as well, makes the vehicle quite a bit cooler !!

[eddomak]

BTW, using a full platform as such means it becomes a "tropical roof" as well, makes the vehicle quite a bit cooler !!

Nice idea!

[Mal_W]

The advice I got was the load rating of the roof was generally the governing factor, not the strength of the bars.
I went for the Rhino Heavy Duty Aero Bar. The cost to supply and install the Rhino tracks (i.e. not OE) plus three (3) Aero Bars was $800. The front bar has longer legs to make up the height difference so they are the same level. I normally leave the front bar off as it seems noisier than the others (longer legs and closer to the driver's ear ??), but leave the others on, though it's only a few minutes to remove or install. I don't notice any noise from the back two bars.
I added a medium basket ($250), shovel holder brackets ($40), and 150mm pipe clamps ($25), the latter for the PVC tube which carries my tent poles. I can lift the basket on and off by myself without difficulty.
All the above from Bars-N-Racks at Brookvale. No connection. They are just handy to my daughter's house and I got it done when I was visiting her.

Mal

[Ashes]

Thanks for the input guys. Aero is the way to go for me.

Anyone have any experience putting the tracks on themselves. I did read somewhere of some drama's?

[ADMIRAL]

I am putting Rhino rails on this weekend. I will keep you posted.

[Guss]

Agree, it's not the strength of the bar, I was talking about the connection from the bar to the basket.

I believe the Aero bars have a plastic bracket where the square bars are an all metal bracket

Aero bar brackets

http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Rhinoweb/Images/Accessories/MainImages/Main_222_2007615_193041.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:ShowEnlarge())


Square bar bracket


http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Rhinoweb/Images/Accessories/MainImages/Main_63_2007615_19443.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:ShowEnlarge())

[AndrewM]

Hi Admiral,
I installed the Rhino roof rails myself last year on my D3 2008 and added 2 aero bars. The rails are only on the high section of roof and were easy to install - only tricky bit was drilling, inserting and sealing a pop rivet into the extreme rear end of each bar. This is recommend as the rear bar can be placed behind the rear most roof bolt hole, potentially creating an upward cantilever force on the rail. The hardest part of this was coming to actually drilling a hole in my roof :o
I carry 2 Spirit crosstrainer kayaks with no problems - just a long way up to lift and tie them. I find the aeros a little noisy especially if the long centre rubber inserts have not been put back in after taking the kayak holders off. Getting these back in can be pain so I usually don't.
Also have a shovel holder which I use often on the WA beaches:D
Andrew

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Admiral,
I installed the Rhino roof rails myself last year on my D3 2008 and added 2 aero bars. The rails are only on the high section of roof and were easy to install - only tricky bit was drilling, inserting and sealing a pop rivet into the extreme rear end of each bar. This is recommend as the rear bar can be placed behind the rear most roof bolt hole, potentially creating an upward cantilever force on the rail. The hardest part of this was coming to actually drilling a hole in my roof :o
I carry 2 Spirit crosstrainer kayaks with no problems - just a long way up to lift and tie them. I find the aeros a little noisy especially if the long centre rubber inserts have not been put back in after taking the kayak holders off. Getting these back in can be pain so I usually don't.
Also have a shovel holder which I use often on the WA beaches:D
Andrew
Thanks Andrew. The bars arrived early and went on tonight. I have not used the rivet at this stage, as I am putting the expedition rack on, and I am not sure where the attachment bolts pick up on yet. The rails look neat, but I recommend a 'dry ' fit before trying to attach with the tape off and silicone sealer in place. I found the front mount hole in the rail required a little elongating to line up correctly with the nutsert in the roof. I will probably still use the rivet for the rear of the track, as I notice it doesn't sit down as tight, and needs something to pull the end down. I always use a step drill for light metal drilling. Gives a lot more control over depth and reduces the risk of accidents. I would also recommend anyone doing the job, get a fork type trim tab remover, if they are at all hesitant about removing the plugs on the oe roof trim.

[andycapper]

A couple of points that may be of interest.

I recently fitted a full length Rhino Rack and initially based the purchase around the factory rails I had. When fitted with the Rhino legs and adaptors supplied it was way too high at the front to make any connection with the roof - no matter how many spacers were added.

The result was that the main rails were replaced with Rhino rails which are not only a lower profile than the Land Rover rails but they also allow the rack to fit much lower as the adaptor foot is not required.

I went for a full length rack to accommodate an RV3 Oztent and to provide proper support for an awning.

I too have the heavy duty rails as they are the ones that accommodate the most accessories and are, I believe, of a section better suited to off road use and standing in the roof rack.

I now have a set of Land Rover rails for sale if anyone is interested...?

Andy

[ADMIRAL]

Thanks Andy.

I will let you know if I have a similar problem in reverse. I am putting the LR Expedition onto Rhino rails. I particularly want a low, close to the roof fit, so I get where you are coming from with the height of the front leg. I am also chasing support for a full length awning. I don't like the way the front of the awning projects forward without support on the shorter roofracks. Too much risk of serious damage when pushing through brush.

[andycapper]

Re-fitting the Expedition rack to the Rhino rails - would have thought that the LR feet would not be compatible with the Rhino channel section...? Unless you are adapting the rack to use Rhino legs...?

Maybe you should just cut out the need for rails and stick it to the roof with velcro....that would be pretty low and close......:)

[ADMIRAL]

The LR feet look ok, and will fit into the Rhino rails if the end cap is taken off to slide them in. My concern is whether the rail face will match to the Expedition, correct angle and height. I will soon find out. This weekends job.

Any idea if extra rails can be purchased for the Expedition rack ? A few more would make it easier to store gear, and move around upstairs. Wouldn't hurt with the strength of the rack either.

[ADMIRAL]

Hi guys. Well the Rhino rails won't fit with the Expedition rack. The profile is slightly out, but the biggest drama is the height. The Rhino rails are very low, and if you are chasing a low fit rack, they will definitely suit.

The Rhino rail also follows the roofline, and curves to suit it. The Expedition has a flat surface, and I would think the LR rails would be tapered vertically to match. The Expedition on the Rhino rail, actually touches the roof in the middle.

I will shortly have a set of Rhino rails for sale.

[wyperfield]

I fitted the Rhino D3 Tracks (as my S did not come woith factory rails) + Rhino Sportz 2 bar System + Rola Vortex LTVX tray.
I leave the rack off unless I need it and it can be fitted by one person easily.
There is no roof noise from the bars and a bit from the rack -all depends on what's on top. A spare wheel/tyre in the rack is noisy if its sitting with the inside down. If the tyre sits with the outside of the wheel down, its pretty quiet.

[ADMIRAL]

I fitted the Rhino D3 Tracks (as my S did not come woith factory rails) + Rhino Sportz 2 bar System + Rola Vortex LTVX tray.
I leave the rack off unless I need it and it can be fitted by one person easily.
There is no roof noise from the bars and a bit from the rack -all depends on what's on top. A spare wheel/tyre in the rack is noisy if its sitting with the inside down. If the tyre sits with the outside of the wheel down, its pretty quiet.

I agree the Rhino bars are quiet, just don't suit the Expedition unfortunately. The rails are almost undetectable by themselves on the roof.

Do you actually carry a spare on the roof rack ? Not my choice, though I understand the necessity if there is no other carrier. Apart from the weight, there is so much risk of damage to yourself or the vehicle, getting the damn thing up and down.

[wyperfield]

I only put a spare wheel on the roof for insurance for remote trips (e.g. Deserts etc.), where we always take 2 x spare wheels. I have never had to use it, so its not been a problem getting on/off at home. The max I put on the roof is the spare wheel and 2 x 20 litre diesel cans. Total weight is about 85 kg incl. roof rack.
For shorter trips, I use the roof rack for light stuff and don't bother with a 2nd spare or extra fuel.

I got the smaller Rola rack with the low Rhino rails instead of the Expidition rack so I could remove and put it on easily/quickly. On my last vehicle I had a roof rack on full-time and it was a problem getting in some carparks and the garage.

[ADMIRAL]

I understand the necessity, and admit I have done it myself. It pays to have a lot of help when putting spares up or taking them down. I have seen some nasty accidents, and hilarious chases when spares are thrown off roofracks. They have the potential to injure the person shifting them, or the vehicle carrying them.

[cold-light-of-day]

Hi Andycapper, I could be interested in your LR rails, are you in Sydney and what kind of price did you have in mind ?

Coldy




A couple of points that may be of interest.

I recently fitted a full length Rhino Rack and initially based the purchase around the factory rails I had. When fitted with the Rhino legs and adaptors supplied it was way too high at the front to make any connection with the roof - no matter how many spacers were added.

The result was that the main rails were replaced with Rhino rails which are not only a lower profile than the Land Rover rails but they also allow the rack to fit much lower as the adaptor foot is not required.

I went for a full length rack to accommodate an RV3 Oztent and to provide proper support for an awning.

I too have the heavy duty rails as they are the ones that accommodate the most accessories and are, I believe, of a section better suited to off road use and standing in the roof rack.

I now have a set of Land Rover rails for sale if anyone is interested...?

Andy

[ADMIRAL]

Too late !! He cried !!

[Tote]

Dolium make a set of rails to fit their windcheetah rack to the roof mount points, maybe these would be suitable for the expedition rack. I seem to recall they are areound $200.00 per set. I'm happy to take photos /measurements if you need some of the install on my 2008 D3.

Regards,
Tote

[andycapper]

Hi "Cold light of day" - as Admiral implied, I'm afraid the rails have gone.

Andy

[bell]

Hi Guys,

I am looking to purchase a LR Expedition rack. What do I need in terms of rails for it to fit my 2008 D3? I simply have the weather strip with the four or so circular rubber points on either side. I was assuming that under these there are hard fix points. But reading this I'm thinking I now need to mount rails first then the Exped rack. Can you pls clarify. Ta.

Bell.

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Guys,

I am looking to purchase a LR Expedition rack. What do I need in terms of rails for it to fit my 2008 D3? I simply have the weather strip with the four or so circular rubber points on either side. I was assuming that under these there are hard fix points. But reading this I'm thinking I now need to mount rails first then the Exped rack. Can you pls clarify. Ta.

Bell.
Hi Bell, as Tote has posted , the Dolium rails as used on the WindCheetah racks may fit. I suggest you investigate before going down that path. I can advise that the Rhino rails are a no go. They are the wrong shape to fit the underside of the Expedition rack, and and simply too low. I learnt the hard way, and now have a pair for sale.

The Expedition rails from LR are pricey, but at least you know they will fit.
Note - If you are buying an Expedition rack from LR, they will normally quote with the rails. Again worth checking before you proceed. Not much point ending up with two sets of rails.

[CaverD3]

Rhino supply some plastic wedges which sit on the rails. Would these be enogh to lift and level the expediton rack? Anyone tried it?

[ADMIRAL]

It was a possibility I drew the line at. Having already blown unnecessary cash on rails that didn't match, I baulked at getting in any deeper. The issue as I see it, is not just the height of the track to keep the rack off the roof, it is that the Rhino rail follows the actual roof line. ( why they are almost undetectable on the roof ) . The LR rail is tapered to pick up on the flat edge on the underside of the Expedition rack.

I will know a bit more when I mount the Expedition up with the LR rails.

[ADMIRAL]

I have just refitted the Expedition with the genuine LR rails. The LR rails are twice the height of the Rhino rails, and sit about 20mm above the roofline. The front leg of the Expedition rack ( comes with the rack ) and the plastic shroud, fit into the foremost rivnut. IMHO having to match the height of this front rail, virtually rules out using any other rail with the Expedition rack.

Even if the matching of the rails and the rack could be overcome, having to achieve the correct height for the front support leg to line up, would make the job nigh on impossible.

Bell, if you use the genuine LR rails, the fit is straight forward. Easier if you have some help. The OE rail trim strip in the roof is shortened, and the LR rails bolt straight in to the existing rivnuts. The front leg is bolted to the foremost rivnut, and the shroud attached with a plastic trim clip, before the rack is attached. The main attachment slides are plates with two bolts protruding. These are lined up to the matching holes on the Expedition rack, and the rack lifted on. Once the rack is on the rails, it can be slid forward and back to line up the front leg, and then everything tightened down. I did not have any instructions ( my rack was s/hand ) but I expect the LR instructions will follow their usual format, no text, all pictures. Should be no problem for you.

[AGRO]

Hi Admiral,

I'm about to purchase an Expedition Roof rack and access ladder for my Disco 4. I have to purchase new and intend to self install. You mention that LR supply installation instructions with their accessories. From your comments it appears that its not to difficult.

Is the cut to the roof insert easily done with a hack saw?

Is the install from then on just bolting the LR rails into the three "high" roof section holes on each side and then the two forward supports and finally positioning the rack.

How does the rack get secured to the rear section of the two rails?

I intend using the rack for two spares when remote, possibly an awning and the usual tent poles, shovel etc.

I have a long range tank that uses the normal spare spot. Around town I'll thow the spare in the deep well I have in the rear luggage compartment - I don't have a third row and after removing the false floor I gain another 100mm in luggage space depth. Maybe a swing arm later - but a rope, the ladder and a bit of common sense makes tyre access ok for me at the moment.

I thank you for any further tips on the rack install and any negatives you've experienced since your install.

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Agro,

The OE roof trim is easy to cut with a hack saw, just clamp it well before you start cutting it. The metal is quite thin and it is easy to 'skip' the blade.
The rails bolt into the existing Riv nuts ( 3 bolts each side ) , and the front ' post ' for the rack bolts into the front riv nut through the metal fill strip. As advised previously, I suggest you source a trim plug remover to get the plugs out of the roof rails.

The Expedition mounts onto the rails and the front post with sliding type bolts. They do allow a little variation in where the rack is placed, but bear in mind the rear tailgate still has to lift up.

Positives - it looks the goods and is well made. That said, I can honestly say it doesn't do much else well. It is very noisy, and this is exaggerated by the quietness of the D4. I have used a shaped piece of retic pipe covered with rubber pipe cladding to fill the gap between the roof and the front of the rack. This dropped the noise from ' hurricane' to ' breeze' at 110 kmh., but I am still working on a pulley set up to remove the rack when it is not required.
The rack has very few cross ribs. This means that you cannot just chuck stuff up, and the options for strapping goods down are more limited than they should be. I have seen owners install amplimesh type floors in the Expedition, but then you lose the ability to use the sliding rails. There is also no back panel in the rack. Again whatever you put up there has to be well strapped in, or you could lose it. The sides are angled. This means a shaped bracket has to be fabricated if you wish to fix an awning on anything other than a 45 degree. ( I suggest a 2 metre max in awning length ) I have seen quite a few Expeditions on other Discos, and almost all have been modified to some degree to improve on these deficiencies.
I would look hard at the Frontrunner and Rhino options before committing to the Expedition. The Rhino has a good basket and stacks of fixing options. The Frontrunner is low profile and has more cross ribs. It also has stacks of options for fixing loads and brackets for just about anything. Both are stacks cheaper than the Expedition.

Your call. I would actually take the time to have a look at the options in real life, and ask plenty more questions before committing. As you can tell, I would probably not go for the Expedition, if I had to make the decision over again.

One more observation. I know it is unavoidable at times,and I have used a roofrack myself for spares in the past....but I would look for other options it if at all possible. Too heavy, and too damn awkward to get up and down.

[Duck's Guts]

Also look at the alloy Blackwidow racks sold through ARB. They have a side rail alround & mesh bottom. They use Rhino hardware (legs & rails) to fit to the D3 & D4.
Available in 1800mm length (cover the high roof area only) & 2200mm length (full roof).

Some photos on a D3 on their web site at Aluminium Roof Racks (http://www.blackwidow4wdstorage.com/RoofRacks_flip/roofracks.htm)

I am waiting on a 1800m one to be shipped out at end of this week...

[eddomak]

If you want to look at what the Rhino Tray looks like on a D4, check out the picture on their website:

Rhino Rack - Roof Racks for LAND ROVER Discovery 3 and 4 4WD (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Vehicle_LAND%20ROVER_Discovery%203%20and%204_Page_ 1_System_RTAT3---SLKSXB_4151_4091.aspx)

That's my car they used for the photo shoot. :)

[AGRO]

Hi Eddomark/Ducks Guts,

Thanks for the links to the web sites.

Are both racks able utilise existing LR Rails and/or Cross Bars?

It seems as though there are many options and as you suggest I'll have to get out and poke about in the real world.

Thanks again

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Agro,

I have not tried the other types of racks on the OE rails. ( Ducks Guts has said the Blackwidow racks use Rhino rails & hardware ) However, I can advise that the Rhino rails are far cheaper, and do sit very low by comparison to the OE rails. This has a side benefit that if you do wish to remove the racks between trips, the Rhino rail is almost unnoticable on the vehicle roof. The OE rails sit up like a pair of skids.

[eddomak]

I don't know about utilisation of the LR Rails as I have the Rhino Rails. The Rhino rails are virtually invisible. I use them with Rhino RST racks which sit nice and low and don't protrude out the sides. If you click on the icons on the right of the RhinoRack site, it shows you my car with the different racks on it. I detach the racks when not in use (I have a low garage).

When speaking to the guys at Roof Rack World, and asking about interchangability with my friend's D3 with factory rails, they were very confident they could do it without much fuss - just need to change some base plate at most, but needed to see the D3 side by side, which we didn't have at the time.

[Normthe1]

Eddo,

Do you have the RST's or the shortened legs for the Tourmaster tray or both?

I want the RST racks for general stuff but really like the idea of being able to mount the Tourmaster tray to the RST's or would I have to buy two sets of legs?

Okay, having just browsed a bit further into the Rhino site, there are other baskets, none as good as the Tourmaster looks though...

We only have half-arsed Rhino stockists here who have no real idea. I will have to go into Perth I think and see a specialist.:mad:


Norm

[Duck's Guts]

Hi Eddomark/Ducks Guts,

Are both racks able utilise existing LR Rails and/or Cross Bars?



Agro,
It's been near 6 weeks since I spoke to Blackwidow & ordered the rack, so I am a bit hazy. I vaguely recall being told that they could also fit to LR rails.
Suggest it is best to email or call Blackwidow direct to confirm.
Cheers.

[ADMIRAL]

Eddo,

Do you have the RST's or the shortened legs for the Tourmaster tray or both?

I want the RST racks for general stuff but really like the idea of being able to mount the Tourmaster tray to the RST's or would I have to buy two sets of legs?

Okay, having just browsed a bit further into the Rhino site, there are other baskets, none as good as the Tourmaster looks though...

We only have half-arsed Rhino stockists here who have no real idea. I will have to go into Perth I think and see a specialist.:mad:


Norm

Hi Norm. How's the D3

Try Opposite Lock in Welshpool. Bryan knows what he is talking about.

[eddomak]

Eddo,

Do you have the RST's or the shortened legs for the Tourmaster tray or both?



I actually only have the RST's. My car was used as the car model for the day and they fit all the accessories to it and take photos. I only got to keep one set of rails & racks at 80% off RRP (yes, I only paid $90 for the lot :D).

I was there when they had the tourmaster rack on it, and they had shortened legs for the tray, no rack on the car at all.

[Normthe1]

Hi Norm. How's the D3

Try Opposite Lock in Welshpool. Bryan knows what he is talking about.

Going great guns Neil, thanks.

Off to Shark Bay on Sunday, although without roof racks yet, just to keep things on track.

I note that at BCF here in Rockingham they are flogging another brand of roof rack, the Prorack range, which are significantly cheaper than Rhino. They will sell me 2 racks and fittings for $350 odd versus the $480 + going off Rhino website prices.

I will have a good look when I get back in a week or so...


Norm

[Normthe1]

I actually only have the RST's. My car was used as the car model for the day and they fit all the accessories to it and take photos. I only got to keep one set of rails & racks at 80% off RRP (yes, I only paid $90 for the lot :D).

I was there when they had the tourmaster rack on it, and they had shortened legs for the tray, no rack on the car at all.

Nice work if you can get it Eddo...:)

[brad72]

I put prorack Whispbars on my D4 and have a fitted a bike carrier, but also have pod and cage when needed. Great bars and not any wind noise.

[Normthe1]

Cheers Brad, thats exactly the info I was after.

What do the Prorack bars mount to, straight to the roof or do they need the LR tracks? I bought Admiral's old Rhino tracks and was going to start building the Rhino collection but I don't want to pay Rhino prices.


Norm

ps. Don't be offended if I don't answer you, I'm off to Shark Bay tomorrow and may not be able to access the 'net.:D

[cjc_td5]

A thread from the dead, but a question back to the original intent of the thread before it got sidetracked....

I have rhino Heavy Duty cross bars on my D4 but find them very noisy (wind roar at highway speeds). Has anyone done a direct comparison of HD bars vs Aero bars for wind noise?

I'll keep the HD bars for trips when I put a basket etc up top, but was looking at the Aero bars for around town when I only carry a kayak up there.

EDIT, to clarify I probably mean the Rhino VORTEX cross bars vs Rhino HD cross bars.

Cheers,
Chris

[DiscoJeffster]

A thread from the dead, but a question back to the original intent of the thread before it got sidetracked....



I have rhino Heavy Duty cross bars on my D4 but find them very noisy (wind roar at highway speeds). Has anyone done a direct comparison of HD bars vs Aero bars for wind noise?



I'll keep the HD bars for trips when I put a basket etc up top, but was looking at the Aero bars for around town when I only carry a kayak up there.



Cheers,

Chris



I use Prorack aero bars and they are silent. You can't tell they're on the car in the slightest.

[l00kin4]

Chris, I had 2 Rhino vortex bars on for a while and found them very quiet.
David