Fire & Ice edition Defenders - in Singapore

[EchiDna]

YouTube- Land Rover Defender Fire & Ice in Singapore!


the lengths some people go to when they get a new delivery in :)

[Outlaw]

Must admit i really like the Fire edition one :)

[disco2hse]

Yep. She's real competitive in the luxury car market.

[MickS]

Nice video. Nicer truck.

[CraigE]

Awesome, now to just get LRA to take some notice. Though they did start something like that in the mid 90s but then closed all the dealerships.
I like the blackout highlights, may have to move to Singapore.

[dmdigital]

Didn't think the F&I series were for RHD market. I wonder if they will come here too.

Now do you want to scare us all senseless and give us the price of a Defender in Singapore...

[BMKal]

Don't mind the Fire version at all. I don't even mind the grille and plastic headlight surrounds in this colour system, whereas the same thing in silver on a black body on the SVX looks like the sort of cheap plastic tacky crap you'd expect to find on a rice burner.

If they bring these to Aus - I might even be tempted to replace the D2 with one of these instead of a D3/4 down the track. With the black roof, I wouldn't buy one while still living in WA - but when I eventually move over to Tassie ................ :cool:

[sniegy]

I'm with Outlaw on this, I do like the Fire Edition.

More questions to ask at work..Hmmm.

[DiscoDan]

To start with I liked "ice" but the inside of "fire" sold it to me.

When do they get here? LRM said they were not for the local market and to my thinking Australia is not their local market.:eek:

[dullbird]

when this was first brought up on there suspected release I said I would have a fire 90 anyday

[Outlaw]

Personally wondering if can special order as assuming the fenders are knockdown buildups anyway... 110 CC in Keswick Green with a black roof and bonnet please :)

[Disco44]

Don't mind the Fire version at all. I don't even mind the grille and plastic headlight surrounds in this colour system, whereas the same thing in silver on a black body on the SVX looks like the sort of cheap plastic tacky crap you'd expect to find on a rice burner.

If they bring these to Aus - I might even be tempted to replace the D2 with one of these instead of a D3/4 down the track. With the black roof, I wouldn't buy one while still living in WA - but when I eventually move over to Tassie ................ :cool:
I agree with you on the black roof..not good at all in a hot climate and that would cover a lot of Oz in summer.
John.

[that_kid]

the front end on them is fugly! what have they done!?!

[EchiDna]

Didn't think the F&I series were for RHD market. I wonder if they will come here too.

Now do you want to scare us all senseless and give us the price of a Defender in Singapore...

list price for the 5 door is around A$160k and you can only drive it for 10 years before it has to be scrapped.

the 90 in standard hardtop config (non special edition) is around A$85k for what its worth (bad turn of phrase!)

[VladTepes]

black roof eh - very practical

[VladTepes]

list price for the 5 door is around A$160k and you can only drive it for 10 years before it has to be scrapped.

the 90 in standard hardtop config (non special edition) is around A$85k for what its worth (bad turn of phrase!)


**** ! Why ?

What's an Aston Martin DBS cost then ?

[EchiDna]

**** ! Why ?

What's an Aston Martin DBS cost then ?

its a tax thing - complicated but basically new car prices are pegged at around 230% of the UK on the road price

Aston Marin DBS Coupe manual is S$875k $15k more for auto. Volante manual is S$920k, +15k if you must have an auto...

Probably more interesting - Range Rover Vogue SE 5.0 is S$479,888 :)

[dmdigital]

list price for the 5 door is around A$160k and you can only drive it for 10 years before it has to be scrapped.

the 90 in standard hardtop config (non special edition) is around A$85k for what its worth (bad turn of phrase!)
Big difference in price do they increase the tax that much because of increased size or something?

[VladTepes]

Aston Marin DBS Coupe manual is S$875k $15k more for auto. Volante manual is S$920k, +15k if you must have an auto...

Doesn't seem to bad compared to here, % wise anyway. The mark up on a Rangie is higher than the mark up on a DBS shall we say.

And that's an AWESOME automatic gearbox and the V12 has a LOT of power so yep I MUST have the Auto - thanks.

I'll have a manual in the Vantage V8 thought - thanks

[EchiDna]

Big difference in price do they increase the tax that much because of increased size or something?

the 90 is considered a commerical vehicle so its under a different tax system to the 110 which is considered a dual purpose vehicle, hence taxed as a passenger car.... the gurkha regiment and much of the police force still drive around in tdi 110's (2 door wagons with seating for 8 in the back) and now they are coming out with armoured puma 110 variants for transporting the gurkhas around (built in Malaysia I believe). Local military went to G-Wagons 8-10 years ago but there are still some ambulances and special purpose TDI's around... other than that, 90's probably represent the majority of the local sales (excluding the high end stuff like RRS, RR and the occassional disco 3).

[EchiDna]

Doesn't seem to bad compared to here, % wise anyway. The mark up on a Rangie is higher than the mark up on a DBS shall we say.

And that's an AWESOME automatic gearbox and the V12 has a LOT of power so yep I MUST have the Auto - thanks.

I'll have a manual in the Vantage V8 thought - thanks


gimme the manual for road use, the auto for the track... but then again the closest I'll ever get to owning one of those is a 1:24 model I'd say :D

[Sleepy]

I like the fire colour. Yes black roof is a little silly for Aus.

[malsgoing130]

I saw a few of these driving around South Africa. They look a lot better in 'the flesh' than in pictures.
Mal

[brikel]

**** ! Why ?

What's an Aston Martin DBS cost then ?

Ever seen the size of Singapore? Given that there is a large part of the population with quite high disposable income if they all bought cars then the roads would be insufficient to fit them all. It would become a real parking lot and there would still be cars unable to get on the road. Hence huge car costs and prohibitive registration. You can opt for weekday or weekend rego which costs a bomb or even just for one day of the week which is still much more than any of our State regos.

[EchiDna]

Ever seen the size of Singapore? Given that there is a large part of the population with quite high disposable income if they all bought cars then the roads would be insufficient to fit them all. It would become a real parking lot and there would still be cars unable to get on the road. Hence huge car costs and prohibitive registration. You can opt for weekday or weekend rego which costs a bomb or even just for one day of the week which is still much more than any of our State regos.

sorry mate, you are quite far off base. While Singapore (the whole country) is about the size of Melbourne, the population is also similar, about 4 million. Only a relatively small proportion of people have cars, but those that do tend to have decent ones, some have many more than just 1 of course... unlike Aust cities, public transport works, its cheap and gets you there on time.

rego - well there are only 2 types, so you cannot opt for 1 day a week - it is either a "normal" registration (usage 24 hours a day, 7 days a week is allowed) or "off-peak" which means you get 24 coupons for all day use per year for things like getting repairs and maintenance done, minus use between 7am and 7pm weekdays and 7am - 3pm on Saturdays... the amount you pay is directly proportional to the size of the engine in the car, so a little hatch with a 1 litre engine costs less than $500 a year, big motors, big costs.... ask yourself if you need a 5 litre v8 when the max speed limit in the country is 90km/hr? Yes it is restrictive but it works.

[brikel]

sorry mate, you are quite far off base. While Singapore (the whole country) is about the size of Melbourne, the population is also similar, about 4 million. Only a relatively small proportion of people have cars, but those that do tend to have decent ones, some have many more than just 1 of course... unlike Aust cities, public transport works, its cheap and gets you there on time.

rego - well there are only 2 types, so you cannot opt for 1 day a week - it is either a "normal" registration (usage 24 hours a day, 7 days a week is allowed) or "off-peak" which means you get 24 coupons for all day use per year for things like getting repairs and maintenance done, minus use between 7am and 7pm weekdays and 7am - 3pm on Saturdays... the amount you pay is directly proportional to the size of the engine in the car, so a little hatch with a 1 litre engine costs less than $500 a year, big motors, big costs.... ask yourself if you need a 5 litre v8 when the max speed limit in the country is 90km/hr? Yes it is restrictive but it works.
Comparing Melbourne and Singapore in this context is pure sophistry. Might as well compare the proverbial apples and oranges. When I lived in Singapore in the mid 70s the reasons I gave above were the exact reasons for such extortionate car prices. The registration setup was also exactly as I described. While Singapore has changed unrecognisably since those days as far as roads and infrastructure, the original reason for car and registration prices remains. The road system may have improved dramatically but the government, knowing it was onto a good thing, has not reduced taxes. I still doubt that Singapore has anything like the length of the Melbourne road system.

[EchiDna]

Comparing Melbourne and Singapore in this context is pure sophistry. Might as well compare the proverbial apples and oranges. When I lived in Singapore in the mid 70s the reasons I gave above were the exact reasons for such extortionate car prices. The registration setup was also exactly as I described. While Singapore has changed unrecognisably since those days as far as roads and infrastructure, the original reason for car and registration prices remains. The road system may have improved dramatically but the government, knowing it was onto a good thing, has not reduced taxes. I still doubt that Singapore has anything like the length of the Melbourne road system.

Well Singapore in the mid 70's was like Melbourne in the 50's, that is patently not the case today and with respect to public transport, Melbourne is still stuck in the 50's and Singapore is light years ahead. In terms of the road system, when you have civil groups with vested interests (concerns about property values, environmental issues etc) like in Oz it slows/stops a lot of inovation and change - often for good reasons I admit! There are no such issues in Singapore, if a new road will cut 20 seconds off the commute time the only questions are how many lanes each way? what tolls can we put on it and when will construction finish? nobody takes note of the frogs living there or the property values. Its a country run like a company and there is a distinct class system with people at the top making serious $$$ and yet it is quite rare to find people without 'enough' - back in the 70's this was not the case and most lived in simple wooden stilt housing. There was also less than a million people here then....


weirdest thing about this thread for me is I never thought I'd find reason to defend Singapore... I'm born and bred in Melbourne after all :)

[brikel]

Well Singapore in the mid 70's was like Melbourne in the 50's, that is patently not the case today and with respect to public transport, Melbourne is still stuck in the 50's and Singapore is light years ahead. In terms of the road system, when you have civil groups with vested interests (concerns about property values, environmental issues etc) like in Oz it slows/stops a lot of inovation and change - often for good reasons I admit! There are no such issues in Singapore, if a new road will cut 20 seconds off the commute time the only questions are how many lanes each way? what tolls can we put on it and when will construction finish? nobody takes note of the frogs living there or the property values. Its a country run like a company and there is a distinct class system with people at the top making serious $$$ and yet it is quite rare to find people without 'enough' - back in the 70's this was not the case and most lived in simple wooden stilt housing. There was also less than a million people here then....


weirdest thing about this thread for me is I never thought I'd find reason to defend Singapore... I'm born and bred in Melbourne after all :)
Singapore is obviously even further advanced than I thought. You don't need to defend Singapore with me. I loved every minute I spent there and in Penang - one of the best and most interesting times of my life. I've heard that most of the old parts have been bulldozed. I used to spend a lot of time in those areas because they were so fascinating.

[EchiDna]

Singapore is obviously even further advanced than I thought. You don't need to defend Singapore with me. I loved every minute I spent there and in Penang - one of the best and most interesting times of my life. I've heard that most of the old parts have been bulldozed. I used to spend a lot of time in those areas because they were so fascinating.

were you in the military?

It's true that many of the old parts are gone (much of it in the last 10-15 years actually) and places like a large slice of the old RAF air force base in seletar has changed beyond recognition in the name of progress. There really isn't much time or thought "wasted" on sentimentality here, but it is nice to see at least a proportion of the old being saved or integrated into the new. This has started happening finally and there are heritage buildings and protected trees etc...

[Pedro_The_Swift]

:rulez:

I'd love a couple of pics of downtown Singapore:angel:

[brikel]

[QUOTE=EchiDna;1206609]were you in the military?

Attached to but without being on strength

[EchiDna]

[QUOTE=EchiDna;1206609]were you in the military?

Attached to but without being on strength

I've a friend who recently departed Singapore after 30 years here as a helicopter mechanic, just wondering - you might have known each other :)

[EchiDna]

:rulez:

I'd love a couple of pics of downtown Singapore:angel:
ask and ye shall receive :)

none of mine on my laptop, but these will do! also note the video was shot at the local dealership - seen a landrover showroom like that in Oz?

http://www.celsias.com/media/uploads/admin/singapore.jpg

new casino under construction


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/750.jpg

New(ish) ION shopping centre in Orchard Road

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/751.jpg

[EchiDna]

hmm dunno how to re-size... oh well delete if required mods :)