Arthritis remedies

[Vern]

After 12 years of skateboarding and 15 years of climbing ladders, my big toes (knuckle) are screwed from arthritis. Left foot in particular (goofy footer), today i could hardly walk, man it hurts.
Anyway does anyone have any good remedies, products or advice?
Thought i'd better get onto it now as at only 36 years of age, i can imagine its going to get worse.:(
Alos being a diabetic i have to look out for my feet so they don't lop them off:D

[wozapinin]

beer..lots and lots of beer:D

[Don 130]

I have osteo pretty bad. back, knees,wrists in particular.If yours is the same type, you may get some relief from the following.Take up to 20mls of fish oil per day. (I can only tolerate 4mls) I also get relief from glucosamine/chondroitin tablets and two panadol osteos every eight hours.(the panadol is on script). Good luck with it. Don.

[ADMIRAL]

I use a glucosomine cream by the name of Arthroaid. My ortho surgeon laughed at me, when I told him it made my knees better. He said it was impossible for the glucosomine to absorb through the skin. I used the cream in the month up to my knee operation, and almost canned the surgery due to the improvement. ( should have ) My left knee was due for the same surgery. That was 4 years ago.

The cream was initially recommended by a pharmacist I know, who also competes in Ironman competitions. He told me in the changeroom before his comps, this cream was used by quite a few people.

Any way it works for me. All I know is if I forget the cream for a few days, my knees start to ache. ( as a side note, I have tried Glucosmine tablets, but they make me itch like hell - not a pleasant side effect )

[Sprint]

a friend of mine used to swear by WD 40 for her knees.....

[101RRS]

Glucosamine has finally been scientifically tested and it has been found not to have any benefit in the treatment of arthritis and associated symptoms.

However if you feel it works for you then you should use it - there is more to treating ailments than pill popping. Placebos are one of the best treatments around and clearly a lot of people including doctors and chemists think it works.

Fish oil products have been proved to be beneficial but you have to take a lot.

Garry

[rovercare]

After 12 years of skateboarding and 15 years of climbing ladders, my big toes (knuckle) are screwed from arthritis. Left foot in particular (goofy footer), today i could hardly walk, man it hurts.
Anyway does anyone have any good remedies, products or advice?
Thought i'd better get onto it now as at only 36 years of age, i can imagine its going to get worse.:(
Alos being a diabetic i have to look out for my feet so they don't lop them off:D

You want something for "medicinal" purposes hey?:p

[Chucaro]

Not that I like it or have used it but cortisone injections can be of help.
Some info is HERE (http://www.melbourneradiology.com.au/fact-sheets/cortisone.html)

I have a bad lumbar ad cervical spine and when bad I have 2 Panadiene Forte and 1 Valium but no many people can function normally with this dosis

Keep out of Port some how it is not good for your condition.

If it is really bad have your feet in hot water.

Cheers

[Vern]

Glucosamine has finally been scientifically tested and it has been found not to have any benefit in the treatment of arthritis and associated symptoms.

However if you feel it works for you then you should use it - there is more to treating ailments than pill popping. Placebos are one of the best treatments around and clearly a lot of people including doctors and chemists think it works.

Fish oil products have been proved to be beneficial but you have to take a lot.

GarryWhere would i find this proof?

[Vern]

Not that I like it or have used it but cortisone injections can be of help.
Some info is HERE (http://www.melbourneradiology.com.au/fact-sheets/cortisone.html)

I have a bad lumbar ad cervical spine and when bad I have 2 Panadiene Forte and 1 Valium but no many people can function normally with this dosis

Keep out of Port some how it is not good for your condition.

If it is really bad have your feet in hot water.

Cheers
I take 4 injections of insulin a day, so i think thats enough needles for me:)

[d@rk51d3]

Copious amounst of "deep heat" or similar........... The blistering burn masks the arthritic pain to some degree.

The only pill that worked for me was taken off the market....... apparently they'll kill you.

[Chucaro]

Where would i find this proof?

Have a look HERE and follow the links in blue.
One good site with excellent reputation is the one of the Mayo Clinic.
You can read about a lot of health issues there.

Regarding the cortisone injecctions i believe that it is one a year.

Cheers

[td express]

G'day Vern,

Being a big bloke, I am prone to getting alot of joint pain. Mainly shoulders, elbows, neck, knees and back.

I take 1000mg of Glucosamine a day, and dont notice anything UNTIL I stop taking it, then I realise it is working for me. These days if I stop taking it for a while my joints crack alot more for some reason and pain returns.
I notice the difference alot when I train also if I have been off it for a little while.

;)

[ADMIRAL]

Glucosamine has finally been scientifically tested and it has been found not to have any benefit in the treatment of arthritis and associated symptoms.

However if you feel it works for you then you should use it - there is more to treating ailments than pill popping. Placebos are one of the best treatments around and clearly a lot of people including doctors and chemists think it works.

Fish oil products have been proved to be beneficial but you have to take a lot.

Garry

Hi Garry. What was the source of this data ? The cream I use has clinical trial data, and is listed for the Vet pension. That info is a few years old though.

[101RRS]

Hi Garry. What was the source of this data ? The cream I use has clinical trial data, and is listed for the Vet pension. That info is a few years old though.

My Doctor.

[Cosmic Tourist]

Glucosamine has varied effects, as above posters indicate. Basically trials dont support its use, but except for allergic reactions it doesnt seem to hurt so if you're using it and it works, keep using it (rule # 1 of medicine). It can be expensive though.
Fish oil has anti-inflammatory effects, you need at least 1g of Omega-3 which is around 4 tablets, 8 a day is a common dose. Proven anti-inflammatory but if what you're describing is proper osteoarthritis then inflammation is a minor (though still significant) contribution to pathology. In a diabetic its cardiovascular (heart, brain, kidney) protection is well worth taking it for.
The trouble with you, which prompted my post, is that you're diabetic and if someone hasnt rammed the diabetic foot down your throat a million times by now, then they should. Burning, often painful feet commencing in the toes (and sometimes the heel) is an early sign of diabetic peripheral neuropathy and it is very serious. In your thirties osteoarthritis can happen, but it is less likely than a diabetic foot, and that is far more serious. Not only because diabetes is the number one cause of amputation in Australia, but because if its damaging your foot then its damaging your eyes, kidneys, and internal nerves and blood vessels
If ANYTHING is happening to your feet you MUST see a podiatrist and your GP (or endocrinologist) IMMEDIATELY. I cannot stress that enough. It may well be Osteo, but even if it is changes in the way you walk can lead to ulcers,bunions and pressure areas that can cause serious problems for diabetics.
As a diabetic you are entitled to medicare podiatry anyway, so why not use it? They can help diagnose as well as provide a range of treatments like orthotics to help your foot. And an endocrinologist can help with the diabtes management and complications.
Its REALLY important Damien.

[Chucaro]

If Omega 3 it is what you are chasing then it will be not much good if the intake it is only fish oil.
The problem with Omega 3 is that it is not soluble, so not ready available to the body if taken in that way. Only very small quantities will be absorved.
Perhaps the best approach is Flax oil which have large amount of Omega 3 plus 6 and 9.
To make the Omega soluble it have to be taken together with Cottage Cheese which have a protein that make the Omega soluble and easy absorved by the body.
This is well known and the pioneer of this research was Dr. Johanna Budwig who have 2 nominations for the Nobel prize for her work.
The big pharmaceutical companies did not like her work :mad:

Do a research about her work by goolge her name.

Cheers

[Tank]

Damien, don't laugh, but this worked for me, I was told that Pomegranate juice would help with my Prostate cancer, so I figured I would give it a go, no harm trying. At the time I was having a bad time with arthritis in my hip, got to the stage where I couldn't put my right foot on the ground without extreme pain. Thought at first it may have been the Prostate cancer spread to the hip bone, after X-rays showed it was Arthritis I was relieved. I started taking this pomegranate juice hoping it would lower my PSA readings, well after 2 weeks of having a glass of juice evrey day the Arthritis in my hip started to get better and after 3 weeks I was back to normal, I didn't put it down to the Pom.juice and after 6 weeks of taking it I stopped as My PSA was still going up. After a week or so I noticed that my hip was starting to twinge again, my Missus looked up Pomegranate juice on Google and found that it showed benefit to sufferers of Arthritis as well as Prostate cancer patients. I started back on the juice straight away and within days the pain was gone and hasn't returned 3 months later and my last PSA reading was down from 8.8 to 8.4, not much, but better than going up. It doesn't work for everyone, the bloke next door tried it and it didn't help, then again I don't know if he took it every day, the one that I buy is Bickfords from Woolies, it is the best tasting one IMO, anyway it can't hurt to try, i am totally happy with the unexpected results, Regards Frank.

[Tank]

Just a warning for users of Glucosamine and Fish oil, there are some really crap products out there and there are only 1 or 2 manufacturerers that GUARANTEE that their product is FREE of Heavy metals and Guarantee that what is on the label is ACTUALLY in the capsule and as these products are largely taken in high doses heavy Metals (esp. Mercury) can be of concern.
If not sure contact the manufacturer and if they can't give you an ironclad guarantee that their product is free of contaminents and full potency, don't take them, Regards Frank.

[Chucaro]

Metagenics products are very good and you need a professional prescription to get them.

[Tank]

Metagenics products are very good and you need a professional prescription to get them.
If you go to their web-site you can order them online, do they give a guarantee, Regards Frank.

[Vern]

Glucosamine has varied effects, as above posters indicate. Basically trials dont support its use, but except for allergic reactions it doesnt seem to hurt so if you're using it and it works, keep using it (rule # 1 of medicine). It can be expensive though.
Fish oil has anti-inflammatory effects, you need at least 1g of Omega-3 which is around 4 tablets, 8 a day is a common dose. Proven anti-inflammatory but if what you're describing is proper osteoarthritis then inflammation is a minor (though still significant) contribution to pathology. In a diabetic its cardiovascular (heart, brain, kidney) protection is well worth taking it for.
The trouble with you, which prompted my post, is that you're diabetic and if someone hasnt rammed the diabetic foot down your throat a million times by now, then they should. Burning, often painful feet commencing in the toes (and sometimes the heel) is an early sign of diabetic peripheral neuropathy and it is very serious. In your thirties osteoarthritis can happen, but it is less likely than a diabetic foot, and that is far more serious. Not only because diabetes is the number one cause of amputation in Australia, but because if its damaging your foot then its damaging your eyes, kidneys, and internal nerves and blood vessels
If ANYTHING is happening to your feet you MUST see a podiatrist and your GP (or endocrinologist) IMMEDIATELY. I cannot stress that enough. It may well be Osteo, but even if it is changes in the way you walk can lead to ulcers,bunions and pressure areas that can cause serious problems for diabetics.
As a diabetic you are entitled to medicare podiatry anyway, so why not use it? They can help diagnose as well as provide a range of treatments like orthotics to help your foot. And an endocrinologist can help with the diabtes management and complications.
Its REALLY important Damien.Podiatrist told me its Arthritis, i already wear orthotics for flat feet, and as far as my diabetes management goes, i'm not to bad, not 100% but not to bad, my BCL's are between 6 and 9.5. The 9.5 is generally when my workload has decreased or over winter (slowing down)when i should adjust my insulin to suit better.

[rovercare]

and as far as my diabetes management goes, i'm not to bad, not 100% but not to bad.

:eek:.......:eek:

What about different shoes? boots suck very much for foot comfort

[Vern]

:eek:.......:eek:

What about different shoes? boots suck very much for foot comfort
Says you!!!If i remember correctly your boots:eek:, quite a lean on them, i think you need to see the podiatrist:).
Work boots are the most comfy shoes i have:(

[rovercare]

Says you!!!If i remember correctly your boots:eek:, quite a lean on them, i think you need to see the podiatrist:).
Work boots are the most comfy shoes i have:(

Collapsed ankle, he told me to come back when it give me grief.....10 years ago:D

My other footsy probs were on the other not so wonky foot;)

[tony66_au]

Collapsed ankle, he told me to come back when it give me grief.....10 years ago:D

My other footsy probs were on the other not so wonky foot;)


Just go and see Shaz, she alternates between the Mirboovian Chemist and Traralgon.

Doing a great job on one of my kids and busy as hell so she must be doing something right.

For me?

Tiger balm and baby oil or Tiger balm oil with baby oil light seems to sort my aches and pains skeletal and muscular, just make sure you wash your hands well when you are done, Jenna (The missus) uses a bit of Voltaren Emulgel on her sore bits and that seems to knock the joint pain off pretty well for her.

Climbing ladders is a bugger though, might be worth running em at a more shallow angle to make it easier?

[wagoo]

I don't know what to recommend.After over 40 years mechanicing, mainly outside on 4wds, trucks and tractors in all weather conditions, I had to stop work 2 years ago after contracting severe Rhumatoid Arthritus that painfully restricts movement in my neck, hands, fingers, wrists, knees and ankles if I don't take regular medication prescribed to me by my Rhumatologist.He tells me that no one dies from Arthritus.They die with it.Trouble is, when i went to my GP to check on a stomach complaint I've been experiencing for the past couple of months, he advised me that the medication i'm on(methotrexate, predisolene and meloxicam) will probably knock me off eventually, so I now have elected to take medication one week on one week off and just put up with a bit of pain in the off week.I'll certainly try some of the remedies suggested here and see how things go.
Wagoo.

[Bigbjorn]

G'day Vern,

Being a big bloke, I am prone to getting alot of joint pain. Mainly shoulders, elbows, neck, knees and back.

I take 1000mg of Glucosamine a day, and dont notice anything UNTIL I stop taking it, then I realise it is working for me. These days if I stop taking it for a while my joints crack alot more for some reason and pain returns.
I notice the difference alot when I train also if I have been off it for a little while.

;)

Me too. If I stop taking it, after a while my hips hurt and I lose range of movement in them. Not to mention the stuffed left knee, and both shoulders from work falls and motor bike falls and getting speedway midgets upside down.

take fish oil, and glucosamine, and if over 60, take aspirin as well. Help you stay alive, lucid, and mobile.

[wrinklearthur]

Im on 3000mg a day of Glucosamine, one tablet twice a day.
Thank God! the red hot nails in my joints is something that I dont have at the moment.
The antinflammatory tablet I was on for the ruptured L5 ( mobic ) I weaned myself off as some of the side effects worried me.
Also for the pain from the ruptured L5, I have been taking two Panadol osteo's of a night and one of a morning, these Im sure, do bring on the Poppy naps.

If I accidently forget and miss a morning or a night dose, of these tablets, the carcass soon lets me know.

Blame all your troubles on candle wax, I sure that it is toxic! I'll have 60 candles made of the stuff next birthday!

Cheers Arthur

[the big fist]

I don't know what to recommend.After over 40 years mechanicing, mainly outside on 4wds, trucks and tractors in all weather conditions, I had to stop work 2 years ago after contracting severe Rhumatoid Arthritus that painfully restricts movement in my neck, hands, fingers, wrists, knees and ankles if I don't take regular medication prescribed to me by my Rhumatologist.He tells me that no one dies from Arthritus.They die with it.Trouble is, when i went to my GP to check on a stomach complaint I've been experiencing for the past couple of months, he advised me that the medication i'm on(methotrexate, predisolene and meloxicam) will probably knock me off eventually, so I now have elected to take medication one week on one week off and just put up with a bit of pain in the off week.I'll certainly try some of the remedies suggested here and see how things go.
Wagoo.

Thats terrible to hear. I've got a rhumatoid too. Psoriatic. Has stuffed my clavical on my right side. Was diagnosed at 26 with it, 31 now. Terrible stuff.
I decided to not go on the methotextrate because at the time it was considered a possible not a definite solution and I didn't want to risk the side effects. I was allergic to the original pills which were sulphur based. I take a range of natural pills and as mentioned, only notice if I don't take them.

[wagoo]

Blame all your troubles on candle wax, I sure that it is toxic! I'll have 60 candles made of the stuff next birthday!

Cheers Arthur

I suspected the candle wax might have something to do with it Arthur. So as a precaution next birthday I'll have only 6 candles on one side of the cake and a single one on the other side.:)
Wagoo.

[Franz]

I just heard from an ex neighbour that he takes a tot of cane spirit every night and has not had any pain from hs arthritis in many years.

I'm about to try this myself and will report back with my findings. At worst, I'll get alchohol poisoning :D

Cheers,

Franz

[Chucaro]

I just heard from an ex neighbour that he takes a tot of cane spirit every night and has not had any pain from hs arthritis in many years.

I'm about to try this myself and will report back with my findings. At worst, I'll get alchohol poisoning :D

Cheers,

Franz

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[keithd]

having had my cartlidges removed 40 y ago from both knees my knees are stuffed and need reconstruction but i find that lyprinol ( blackmores ) works for me it is an anti inflammatory but saddly I will have to go under the knife in the not to distant future to be able to remain active
cheers Keith

[Tank]

I don't know what to recommend.After over 40 years mechanicing, mainly outside on 4wds, trucks and tractors in all weather conditions, I had to stop work 2 years ago after contracting severe Rhumatoid Arthritus that painfully restricts movement in my neck, hands, fingers, wrists, knees and ankles if I don't take regular medication prescribed to me by my Rhumatologist.He tells me that no one dies from Arthritus.They die with it.Trouble is, when i went to my GP to check on a stomach complaint I've been experiencing for the past couple of months, he advised me that the medication i'm on(methotrexate, predisolene and meloxicam) will probably knock me off eventually, so I now have elected to take medication one week on one week off and just put up with a bit of pain in the off week.I'll certainly try some of the remedies suggested here and see how things go.
Wagoo.
Wagoo, I don't know if Vern took my advise on Pomegranate juice 12 months back or not, but I have continued with a glass a day and I have had no pain in my hip since and as we have a similar work background (mechanic). My other areas of arthritis have also cleared up, i.e. fingers, lower back, right knee and both feet.
You need to be wary of pills and potions that claim to cure/help arthritis, most products derived from fish, taken regularly over long periods can do more damage than good with levels of Mercury and other Heavy Metals being so high in the base fish product. Unless the product has a guarantee of No Heavy Metals and Potentcy don't buy it, if it's not on the bottle don't take it. Ointments are useless, as your skin is Watertight what chance is there of delivering a product into a knee/back joint, if you could we wouldn't need needles.
Pomegranate juice has no side effects, is good for your Prostate, tastes good, is not toxic and for me it works.
I would be interested to hear if anyone else has had a good result from Pomegranate juice, or not, Regards Frank.

[wagoo]

Thanks for the advice Tank er Frank :) Will look out for the juice.
Do you squeeze it yourself and add anything ?Or buy it in bottles?
From memory, when we used to regularly eat Pomegranits as kids in the UK, they were quite bitter or sour, and had to sprinkle liberal quantities of sugar on top.
wagoo.

[wagoo]

Thats terrible to hear. I've got a rhumatoid too. Psoriatic. Has stuffed my clavical on my right side. Was diagnosed at 26 with it, 31 now. Terrible stuff.
I decided to not go on the methotextrate because at the time it was considered a possible not a definite solution and I didn't want to risk the side effects. I was allergic to the original pills which were sulphur based. I take a range of natural pills and as mentioned, only notice if I don't take them.
Sorry to hear it got you so early in life. At least mine held off until I reached 57. Rhumatologist wants me to double my intake once a week of methotrexate, but my GP who also has arthritus just shakes his head, but then concedes that nothing else will do the same job for my condition.
I try to stay very active, which helps a bit. I rarely get ill, but when I do and am confined to barracks for a day or two, it takes days for the joints to free up a bit afterwards.
Wagoo.

[Gippslander]

I too suffeer from Rhumetoid arthritus i have had it seriously since 1998 but am now on Methetrexate 15mg a week Predistilone 10mg a day and Simponi injection once a month. Since getting on Simponi i have had a huge reduction in swelling of my joints. The difference is amazing get your Doctor onto it, i will be able to reduce the predidtolone and methatrexate soon so i am told.

Frank

[Lionel]

I too suffeer from Rhumetoid arthritus i have had it seriously since 1998 but am now on Methetrexate 15mg a week Predistilone 10mg a day and Simponi injection once a month. Since getting on Simponi i have had a huge reduction in swelling of my joints. The difference is amazing get your Doctor onto it, i will be able to reduce the predidtolone and methatrexate soon so i am told.

Frank

I suffer from psoriatic arthritis, and went through the usual range of medications (meloxicam, sulphasalazine, methotrexate) which only took the edge of it. It was mostly my wrists and hands which were affected.

The rheumatologist has now put me on Enbrel (etanercept) which is a weekly injection (self administered) and this has been absolute magic! You have to try all the others first before any of the "biologics" as they are very expensive for the PBS to subsidise.

Vern:
For osteo, the meloxicam (Mobic) is a very effective anti-inflammatory. It is one of the COX-2 inhibitors; a class of drug which can increase the risk of cardio-vascular problems (Vioxx was one which caused trouble), but meloxicam does not seem to be problematic in this way. It is certainly preferable to steroids long term, and worth a look.

I don't know how it works with diabetes, but your doctor would be able to advise.

Cheers,

Lionel

[Tank]

Thanks for the advice Tank er Frank :) Will look out for the juice.
Do you squeeze it yourself and add anything ?Or buy it in bottles?
From memory, when we used to regularly eat Pomegranits as kids in the UK, they were quite bitter or sour, and had to sprinkle liberal quantities of sugar on top.
wagoo.
Pomegranate juice is available from most supermarkets, I have found the best tasting is Bickfords, a small glass a day works for me, Regards Frank.

[Boxhead63]

Hi all, as the cosmic tourist states most of your pain is probably caused by the diabetic neuropathy. A condition which I have had for a couple of years now and am slowly getting control of. However, after suffering 5 seperate incidents of multiple foot/ankle fractures over the years there are definite arthritic changes to the bony structure of both feet. To combat the neuropathy it took the following 1. Change my diet to lower my sugar levels. 2. Stop drinking so much **** I barely drink at all now....this lowered my sugar by 4 points on most days. 3. Keep my feet warm...there is a lot less pain when my feet are warm. 4. Visit a chiropidist/podiatrist evry 3 months for a check up . This is imperative as these people will note the changes that you may not see or feel and forward you on for further treatment. To combat the arthritic changes I have been taking 3000mg Blackmores Glucosamine and 1500mg of fish oil daily. There has been a marked improvemnt since i started taking these. This is definitly not a palcebo effect as i was taking large doses of panadeine forte and getting no where except constipated. I wear orthotics in all my shoes including my football boots.The orthotics have probably been the best of all these little things that have made my feet a lot better.
I am not out of the woods yet but I am a great deal better off than I was. No one is going take my feet off in the near future.


Rob

[JDNSW]

After reading this thread, I must say that I seem to be lucky - just started on Panadol Osteo for a combination of neuralgia and sciatica plus minor arthritis in a couple of finger joints. And my cake later this year will have 70 candles on it.

John

[mick88]

a friend of mine used to swear by WD 40 for her knees.....
Isn't WD 40 a fish oil based product?
There was an email orbiting the earth a while back that had a list of uses for WD 40.

Cheers, Mick :)

[mick88]

I know an elderly lady in her eighties who has held rheumatoid arthritis at bay for decades with a daily glass of a celery seed based concoction she brews herself. It's made from boiling celery seeds and water. She takes about a 4 oz glass every morning and she swears by it.
might be worth a try for anyone enduring agonising pain and reduced mobility due to arthritic conditions.


Cheers, Mick :)

[Chucaro]

I know an elderly lady in her eighties who has held rheumatoid arthritis at bay for decades with a daily glass of a celery seed based concoction she brews herself. It's made from boiling celery seeds and water. She takes about a 4 oz glass every morning and she swears by it.
might be worth a try for anyone enduring agonising pain and reduced mobility due to arthritic conditions.


Cheers, Mick :)

For those who would like to try make sure that the seeds are not treated with anty fungus chemicals. Grow your own celery or get the seeds from a reputable shop.

[87County]

Back and joint pain can be a quite incapacitating , so after reading through this interesting thread I've got a few observations to make which I hope may be helpful.

1. WD-40, while anecdotally reputed to work for joint pain, apparently does not contain fish oil WD-40 Facts & Myths | WD-40 Ingredients (http://www.wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/). :)

2. Personally, I'm convinced that glucosamine can assist with the control of the effects of joint damage BUT (and it's a big BUT), since it does also include a lot of shellfish (extract), people with allergies, particularly to salicilates, may develop extreme reactions similar to anaphylaxis (not good).

3. Not all people who have allergies are aware of the fact, and therefore they are also unaware of just what they are allergic to, so take care.

4. One athritic condition not listed so far in this discussion is gout, susceptibilty to which is, I believe, hereditary. This may be associated with diabetes and really can only be firmly diagnosed with blood test and/or xray of the affected joint.

5. For long term kidney health it would be advisable to check this because ongoing uric acid build-up (hyperuricemia) can eventually lead to serious kidney damage.

I would therefore encourage anyone with bouts of joint pain (anywhere in the body but often in the legs/ankles/feet ot toes, less often elbows/wrists or fingers) to have this checked out because it is relatively readily controlled with medication (allopurinol).

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[101RRS]

Personally, I'm convinced that glucosamine can assist with the control of the effects of joint damage

As I mentioned in an earlier post, glucosamine has been the subject of extensive medical testing and unfortunately been found to be ineffective - the claims attributed to it through testimonials to be a result of the placebo effect.

However the mind can work wonders and if people find glucosamine works for them, then that is a useful treatment in my books.

Garry

[85 county]

As it was explained to me,

I have quite a bit to do with Vets, a lot of dogs have arthritis/

Apparently arthrists is the lack of Cushing in the joint ( wow that’s news) as a result of the body not being able to supply sufficient material to repair or replace this joint.

First problem is diet; you have to put the good stuff in for the body to make the correct material.

Second in the stomach, the ability to absorb or possess the good stuff.

Third the ability of the blood stream to get the good stuff the correct place.

Diabetes’s will have an effect on the last two, worse because it’s in your feet.

The vets I deal with all give out a supplement called Sasha’s Blend, what’s more interesting is that a number of these vets take this supplement themselves as a preventative.

Simply put, they are overdosing there body’s with Omega 3s in the hope that the body will absorb enough to repair the damaged joint.

[the big fist]

Sorry to hear it got you so early in life. At least mine held off until I reached 57. Rhumatologist wants me to double my intake once a week of methotrexate, but my GP who also has arthritus just shakes his head, but then concedes that nothing else will do the same job for my condition.
I try to stay very active, which helps a bit. I rarely get ill, but when I do and am confined to barracks for a day or two, it takes days for the joints to free up a bit afterwards.
Wagoo.

You wouldn't believe I had it if you met me. Most people think I am just over exaggerating the severity of it. As mentioned previously I use Blackmores Lyprinol and find it very good. More of a concern for me is as I get older how it will progress. Have you tried different rhumatologists ? I actually went to a couple and also a very well known WA sports doctor to get a wide array of opinions. They all tend to differ !!

[marko66]

Hi All

I wear a magnetic bracelet and it helps me, take about three weeks before iwas sure it was helping. I have a friend who takes magnesium tablets and reckons that they are the bees knees. Hopethis helps someone

Regards Mark

[Chucaro]

Simply put, they are overdosing there body’s with Omega 3s in the hope that the body will absorb enough to repair the damaged joint.

The omega 3,6 and 9 are very important to help the blood to reach all the parts of the body.
However just taken fish oil which is only rich in Omega3 will not help much if it it is not taken with a protein which help to make the Omega soluble. Only a small proportion of the Omega 3 will be absorved by the body.
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in 1952 after considerable studies found out that the proteins in cottage cheese helped the body to absorve the omega components in flax seed oil and she developed a diet to help people with cancer.
I used her diet of Flax oil (http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html) and cottage cheese to help me with my back problems anl also to bring down the cholasterol with very good results.
Flax seed oil it is much better than fish oil because the Omega 6 and 9 above the omega 3 content
There is more info HERE (http://www.budwigcenter.com/) about Dr Budwig