part time 4x4 kit

[daley]

hi,
i was wondering if anyone knew if there was a part time 4x4 conversion kit for disco 2 gettin about, if so where?

Cherrs,
Daley

[101RRS]

Why bother? Fuel consumption is unchanged, handling is worse and it costs heaps to do.

Garry

[DeeJay]

If you mean one that involves freewheeling hubs, then give it a miss. The benefits of full time 4wd far outweigh its shortfalls.
Even Toyota woke up to that one, took them a while though.

[Bush65]

There is a part time conversion available for the LT230 transfer case (I have one here somewhere).

I don't know if there are free wheeling hubs that will suit a disco 2.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The Spanish Santana LT230 is part time and so the available kits merely use the Santana gearset.

Some words of warning, the Disco diffs and axles are probably not up the the task or reliable (long term) running in rear wheel drive only. (Where a Defender/110 Salisbury diff probably is.)
The replacement kit does not offer a centre diff option.
Running in rear wheel drive with freewheel hubs has problems of uneven wear of the front prop-shaft, lack of lubrication/protection of front diff crownwheel and pinion and lack of lubrication of front swivels.
I personally wouldn't consider it with a Disco.

[daley]

cheers fellas just thought id put some feelers out there and see what other people think but i think it just might be easier in the long run.

[jazzaD1]

easier for what?

[79transtar]

Why bother? Fuel consumption is unchanged, handling is worse and it costs heaps to do.

Garry
Gary, having been a longtime nissan patrol man myself and only today crossing the fence and getting a 95 discovery i would have to question most of the comments in relation to handling. after test driving a lot of disco's and finally buying one i found them all to be ****house for steering/handling including the one i decided on, they all tend to oversteer excessively which i may be wrong but put down to the fact of full time 4wd, any time i've forgotten to disengage my hubs back on the black stuff the patrol behaved badly having said that im looking forward to what the disco has to offer good or bad
cheers

[Tombie]

Gary, having been a longtime nissan patrol man myself and only today crossing the fence and getting a 95 discovery i would have to question most of the comments in relation to handling. after test driving a lot of disco's and finally buying one i found them all to be ****house for steering/handling including the one i decided on, they all tend to oversteer excessively which i may be wrong but put down to the fact of full time 4wd, any time i've forgotten to disengage my hubs back on the black stuff the patrol behaved badly having said that im looking forward to what the disco has to offer good or bad
cheers

Odd...

I find the Discoverys to be very balanced, with a more neutral turn in.

Lift off coming into a corner they tend to shift around, but keep a steady pace and they are very composed on corners / curves...

[harlie]

Gary, having been a longtime nissan patrol man myself and only today crossing the fence and getting a 95 discovery i would have to question most of the comments in relation to handling. after test driving a lot of disco's and finally buying one i found them all to be ****house for steering/handling including the one i decided on, they all tend to oversteer excessively which i may be wrong but put down to the fact of full time 4wd, any time i've forgotten to disengage my hubs back on the black stuff the patrol behaved badly having said that im looking forward to what the disco has to offer good or bad
cheers

Agree with tombie, I think the differences you feel would be more to do with wheelbase. They feel very different to a patrol and I'm not going to say one is better than the other - my choice of ownership will answer my opinion... D2 with ACE does suffer from lift off oversteer but keep a nice line and there's no Jap 4*4s can keep up through the large sweeping round abouts we have around here..

If they are so bad, why did you buy one?

[101RRS]

Gary, having been a longtime nissan patrol man myself and only today crossing the fence and getting a 95 discovery i would have to question most of the comments in relation to handling. after test driving a lot of disco's and finally buying one i found them all to be ****house for steering/handling including the one i decided on, they all tend to oversteer excessively which i may be wrong but put down to the fact of full time 4wd, any time i've forgotten to disengage my hubs back on the black stuff the patrol behaved badly having said that im looking forward to what the disco has to offer good or bad
cheers

I agree with the others - there is something wrong with your Disco. I have had my disco on the skid pan at a driver training circuit and they naturally understeer not oversteer. Also I was on this circuit (an old police driver training circuit) with a jag club and on the circuit itself my disco was faster than all of the 6 cylinder XJ6s - it handled all the offcamber corners very well and no indication of oversteer and was quite neutral.

Garry

[79transtar]

harlie please refer to my last sentence.

[DeeJay]

harlie please refer to my last sentence.

Pretty hard to find seperate sentences , but I got lucky...

[UncleHo]

G'day 79transtar :)

As with all permament 4wheel drive systems you drive them into a corner,back off before you change direction, then apply steady power into the corner,like an old VW beetle, lifting off when starting the turn or braking will result in your vehicle joining the rest of the upside down Landies and Disco's in the wrecking yard, as, with the long travel suspension when braked into a corner the will kneel down on the outer side and OVER YOU GO :) they do not tail slide like a normal rear wheel driven car,only the later vehicles with stability control will be more predictable.

When you get used to it you will be quite happy with the sure footedness of the constant 4 wheel drive, this is what made the Range Rover such a total revolution in 1970

cheers

[Squatdog]

I have fee wheeling hubs on my defender i havent gotten round to transfer case mod as yet

yes the handleing is worse but much more fun i like over steer , u can do donuts snakies an burnouts haha its probly not worth it unless ur a bit of a hoon with spare hmmm cant remember the price wasnt cheap anyway . i drive around with hubs locked an if i want be a idiot i unlock them ,

i agree with others prolly bad idea on a disco with the weak diff

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I have fee wheeling hubs on my defender i havent gotten round to transfer case mod as yet
...<snip> So do you have your CDL locked on with the F/W hubs unlocked!

Just so you can go running around with the front drivetrain rotating, just so that you can do burnouts and donuts with a 4 cyl diesel or pathetic 3.5 litre V8?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/1351.jpg

[p38arover]

I have fee wheeling hubs on my defender i havent gotten round to transfer case mod as yet
May I ask why you bothered with this mod?

[79transtar]

Thanks DeeJay,
The missus said the same thing,Good thing i'm a dumbass truckdriver and not an english teacher i s'pose. (**** i cant spell to good either)

[PAT303]

All this converson stuff only come about after the 80 series problems and in no way effects LR's.The idea that you get better fuel economy and less wear is false as the whaole drivetrain still rotates right up to the hubs so it's another keyboard expert myth,the biggest trouble is that the front geometry is set up for constant 4WD,toe angle is the opposite for the two for starters and I don't think it would be seen in a healthy light if you are involved in an accident with a major handling advantage disconnected. Pat

[PAT303]

Gary, having been a longtime nissan patrol man myself and only today crossing the fence and getting a 95 discovery i would have to question most of the comments in relation to handling. after test driving a lot of disco's and finally buying one i found them all to be ****house for steering/handling including the one i decided on, they all tend to oversteer excessively which i may be wrong but put down to the fact of full time 4wd, any time i've forgotten to disengage my hubs back on the black stuff the patrol behaved badly having said that im looking forward to what the disco has to offer good or bad
cheers

Considering it's 15 years old you may want to replace all the suspension bushes and four new springs and fit either billies or my choice Koni's and see how you go. Pat

[rovercare]

.The idea that you get better fuel economy and less wear is false as the whaole drivetrain still rotates right up to the hubs so it's another keyboard expert myth,

? Not when you fit a part time kit to an 80 or LR for that matter, you fit a spool to the centre diff, which converts it to rear whell drive, the front prop does no turn

I do agree though, its is a waste and only purpose it serves is for being a silly bugger.....it does reduce backlash in higher km cars, but so does reshimming the diffs:D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

May I ask why you bothered with this mod?Ron

I suppose that if you unlocked both the F/W hubs and CDL the modification could prevent anyone driving away in your Deefer. That is until they decided to engage the CDL.

Diana :D

[p38arover]

Leaving the transfer case in neutral will stop some people - including owners.

I responded to an American who emailed that his D1 had failed so he had to leave it and come back with a recovery vehicle (several hundred miles).

I suggested moving the transfer case lever into gear might help. It did. :D

[Squatdog]

Ok the reason i did the mod was because it is ment to help with drive line back lash (worst thing bout a landy ) reduce wear on the spline's of axles , an constant 4wd sucks in sum conditions it can cause bad understeer its just ****s me, i do lots of driven of gravel roads an just dont like bloody like it YES i do ****y little skids in a 200 tdi it twins up too!!No i dont drive around with my hubs unlocked CDL in because im too lazy to do the mod to the transfer case , it makes a sound like buggered bearing if do at 100kms , Ive driven lots of other 4wd's an i prefer handleing of part time 4wd