Centrifugal oil filter problem on TD5

[x-box]

The problem is not really with the oil filter, but with the housing.
I changed oil this arvo and all filters, but on re-assembly, the bolt that keeps the centrifugal housing "lid" down stripped. I'm cheesed off no end as i did'nt use much force at all! The bolt on the "outside" is the one gone, the "inside" one is still good.
I did put it in gently with a bit of plumber's tape (pathetic i know), but how much pressure does this centrifugal filter housing generate and can i at least drive to the mechanic's workshop????? Or will the top blow off? I don't really have the $$ to pay for a new engine.
Unfortunately i'm not that mechanical that i can ream out the hole and put a bigger bolt in, plus the space is a bit of a worry to work in. (although desperate times calls for desperate measures)
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

[stig0000]

i dident say this:wasntme: but im lucky i haven't striped one,,

but most people just put a longer bolt and a nut, or if you carefull you can get a blot the same thread and longer and wind it in more,, the thread of the current one only goes about half way into the housing

[Bundalene]

As a temporary fix, get a longer bolt, as there is still plenty of thread below the stripped out bit.

Second fix, have it helicoiled and you should never have this problem again.

Erich

[wardy1]

X2 the Helicoil:D

[x-box]

thanks for that, will get a longer bolt tomorrow and give it a go - good to know there's more thread down there to use

[Bundalene]

If you do get the faulty one helicoiled, it would pay have them both done, not much extra for the 2 rather than just one.

Erich

[gingz]

I have the same problem. I put zero force on the thing and it just started to spin? What is helicoil? Is that like tapping a new hole? I have never heard of helicoil before. Can this be done at home or send to garage?

Whats the chances of the cover coming off?

Cheers in advance

Gingz

[crossy999]

Hi X-Box, thanks for posting this question; EXACTLY the same thing happened to me yesterday too.
If you happen to find a longer bolt and it has a part number or thread size would you mind posting here?

thnaks
anthony

[bee utey]

Helicoil is a thread replacement like a coil spring, it has the same form as the thread you are replacing. The hole is tapped out using a special tap, the coil insert wound in and Voila! a better thread. There is also a brand of insert called Re-coil, it is very similar. Re-coil kits cost under $80 for popular sizes and contain 10 inserts, which can be bought separately. Easily done at home.

[CapeLandy]

from what I have noted helping a mate with his TD5 is that the mechanics at the dealers who are built like a brick sh@t house are using the force to nearly strip the thread as they don't have the soft feel for Aluminium and then the owner thinks that he buggered the thread when attempting the job himself. :eek:

[gingz]

I am planning to order a set of helicoils but need to know the size of the bolts. I am at work now and will not be back for a coupe of weeks.

I seem to remember them being about 6mm or so. Does anybody know the correct size?

thanks

Gingz

[reschook]

The bolt size is 6mm x 1.0 mm.

[stallie]

Just found this problem after a filter change just then.

No access to heli coils at the moment (on the road), but need to get driving again. It got dark as I was finishing up, but feeling underneath it seems like I could just use a long 6 mm x1mm bolt passed right through and a nut on top?

Any reason not to do it that way as it seems (too) simple?

[Tombie]

Just found this problem after a filter change just then.

No access to heli coils at the moment (on the road), but need to get driving again. It got dark as I was finishing up, but feeling underneath it seems like I could just use a long 6 mm x1mm bolt passed right through and a nut on top?

Any reason not to do it that way as it seems (too) simple?

Often just a longer bolt...

As the original bolt doesnt grab ALL of the thread... Some is often left ok...

And BE GENTLE :angel:

[CountP]

Often just a longer bolt...

As the original bolt doesnt grab ALL of the thread... Some is often left ok...

And BE GENTLE :angel:

+1
I have had the same issue. My heart nearly stopped.
Longer bolt did the trick.
Oh, and BE GENTLE.

[stallie]

I was being gentle! I even had the small socket set and was holding it halfway out with the intention of just getting some tightness on it before putting in the other one.

I'll try the longer bolt to grab more thread, but what I meant by my post is would a very long bolt pass through so you could pop a nut on the other and with a spring washer.

[Daisy Driver]

Same thing happened to me the first time I serviced our TD5 Disco. I went with the longer bolt solution, backed up with a spring washer. That was 3 years ago and it has been just fine. Just be gentle!

[CapeLandy]

Yep, bolt drilled right through worked for us with a nut and spring and flat washer. Only works on two of the three holes if I remeber correct

[stallie]

Fixed. Went to the local bolt shop and bought a 6mm did x 100mm long with full length 1mm thread. Put it in and all good. It pokes out the bottom, but there's enough thread left to grip nicely. I'll put a nut on the bottom when the engine cools back down.

[RoverNova]

I just wanted to add that you may have a local Thread Repair Man in your area.

Im often to lazy to fix broken bolts, Studs & Threads etc and for a $70+ call out fee they have it fixed in no time even supply new bolts or studs etc.

It's always good to have there card handy when your doing exhaust manifolds etc.

Cheers
Rhys

[RisingSun]

Mine came loose and started spilling oil out of the cover. Didn't lose a lot of oil, but enough to know there was something going on.

Went back to the Mechanic that did the work (Months ago) and he said that they were the last one to touch it, so sorted it out for me then and there no charge. With the amount of time that had past I would have been happy to pay, but they figured that it was probably stripped at the service and taken a while to loosen.