With 130 Dual Cabs can you have longer trays than Hilux dual cabs etc. ?

[pc3]

Folks as the 130 duel cabs have extended chassis does this mean legally you can put a longer tray on ?

Whats the longest tray your legally able to have on a 130 defender duel Cab...............dont need to carry lots of weight as such just like the room etc.

[roverrescue]

I am unsure whether this ruling is national or queensland specific but the rear overhang (defined as distance from centre of rear axle to rear most aspect) must be no more than 3.7 m or no more than 60% of wheelbase, whichever is less.
A 130 has a wheel base of 127", 60% of this is in metric 1935mm.

The rear wheels on a 130 are close to the rear of the cab, but from the centre of the rear axle, back 1.9m would put the overall tray length at somewhere near 2.2m. I havent measured this but can if you need to!

My tray is 1.8 x 1.8 and I have no departure problems or overhang issues, I would envisage a 2.2m tray although handy may "look" a little long?

I believe there is a member on AULRO with a singlecab camperback on a 130, it is just within legal limits and they are happy with it. Irrespective of the above I would argue a 130 will take a longer tray "better" than a hilux as a 130 doesnt have a toyota badge on it ;)

Steve

[worms]

this is a question of mine aswell, I have a decked out aluminium pod on a single cab ATM and would love to just switch it over to a 130 tray but have a feeling the 2.4m length of it may look a little silly not to mention give me a woeful depature angle.

If anyone has photos of ther tray set ups or even dimensions it would help. There seems to be a far bit of variation out there on the backs of 130's

[pc3]

How do you think a 2.1m tray would look ? do you think this would interfere with departure angles etc.

I have a feeling Hilux dual cab trays etc. are about 1.8m at most. an extra 30cm of tray would be handy and may not look too stupid ?

[Killer]

Standard tub is about 1700mm long from memeory, Hilux tubs are 1500mm I think. 2100mm would stick out the back a fair way, it depends how high you mount it, how much it will effect your departure angle.

Cheers, Mick.

[The ho har's]

Our tray is 1800mm long

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1310.jpg

Mrs hh:angel:

[pc3]

That Tray looks good, its an aluminium one I assume ?

[roverrescue]

pc3 I did some measures, max legal rear overhang would make the total tray length about 2.7m (way too long practically)

I can see that 2.1m wont be too bad, the rear departure will be factored by the towbar not the tray edge.
The biggest issue with a 2.1m tray will be rear unsupported section, if you look at the hohars very sexy tray - where the towbar tongue goes into the receiver is level with the rear cross member / rear of chassis. So with a 1.8m tray there is already a fair unsupported length, obviously even more so with an extra 300mm.

Maybe you need some photoshop wizz to mock up the tray style you like in a few lengths to get an idea of where to go. I know this, whatever size tray you end up with you will fill it up!!!

Steve

[The ho har's]

That Tray looks good, its an aluminium one I assume ?


steel frame (red) and ally bottom and sides;) Can post more photos if needed....


Mrs hh:angel:

[The ho har's]

I can see that 2.1m wont be too bad, the rear departure will be factored by the towbar not the tray edge.
The biggest issue with a 2.1m tray will be rear unsupported section, if you look at the hohars very sexy tray - where the towbar tongue goes into the receiver is level with the rear cross member / rear of chassis. So with a 1.8m tray there is already a fair unsupported length, obviously even more so with an extra 300mm.



Steve


We turn the tow hitch upside down when travelling as there is enought room there to do it;)...always have hitch while travelling as you never know what you may find;)

Mrs hh:angel:

[rijidij]

This is what a 2.1 and a 2.4 tray would look like.............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1293.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1294.jpg

[The ho har's]

This is what a 2.1 and a 2.4 tray would look like.............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1293.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1294.jpg

thanks for photo shopping it...it look ridiculous :o

Mrs hh:angel:

[The ho har's]

This is what a 2.1 and a 2.4 tray would look like.............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1293.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1294.jpg


How about putting a lazy axel under it see how that looks;)


Mrs hh:angel:

[rijidij]

How about putting a lazy axel under it see how that looks;)


Mrs hh:angel:

Done ;) It certainly fixes the departure angle with a longer tray..........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1289.jpg

[The ho har's]

Done ;) It certainly fixes the departure angle with a longer tray..........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1289.jpg


ohhh and now it has 3 fuel tanks:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[The ho har's]

6 wheel drive would be better:D

ohh and how bout rear steer;)


Mrs hh:angel:

[Outlaw]

Settle down... don't want to give MR Ho Har too many ideas... but imagine the size of the camper he could build for that ;)

[bully130]

my tray on the 130 is 2.1m long and i can fit the spare wheel up under the overhang section of the tray . As for departure angle it is near the same as the tup. I also found that you should strenghten the tabs that hold the tray down at the cab end as they are very thin
Cheers
Ian

[slt]

That's what 2.25m looks like:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/142.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1285.jpg

[worms]

Cool! thanks for the pics!! I think the 225 might be abit too much overhang for me but its definitely a cool looking rig slt! very nice photo shopping hohar! maybe I could send you some pics of my pod and you could do a virtual chop down and pimp up onto a 130 for me.:D I'd really like to see a 2.1m bully130, pleeeeeease!

[pc3]

Thanks folks I measured some of my gear and I think a 2.15 or 2.2 tray will do me nicely and not be too long

[The ho har's]

Cool! thanks for the pics!! I think the 225 might be abit too much overhang for me but its definitely a cool looking rig slt! very nice photo shopping hohar! maybe I could send you some pics of my pod and you could do a virtual chop down and pimp up onto a 130 for me.:D I'd really like to see a 2.1m bully130, pleeeeeease!


The photoshopping was done by rijidij;)

but thanks anyway:D


Mrs hh:angel:

[Scallops]

After viewing rijidij's inspired work, the HarMeister and myself set aside today's scheduled Sunday Matilda resto session to do the double axle conversion.

What a rig - 130's rock. :D

[bully130]

since you asked so nicely worms here are a few photos

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1142.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1142.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1142.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1142.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1143.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1144.jpg

the above phoyo is the bracket i had made after the tabs on the chassee cracked

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1145.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1146.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1147.jpg
i also put on air bag suspension
cheers
Ian

[bully130]

sorry dont know what i did wrong with the fist lot of rear end photos iwiil try again:o

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1139.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1140.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1141.jpg

[Banjo_pluker]

With all the differing lengths,

I am ashuming that 1.8 wide it the max?

[slug_burner]

I think max vehicle width without a special permit is 2.5 metres

[ugu80]

I think max vehicle width without a special permit is 2.5 metres

Max width is determined by body exremities. The tray (including any fittings) can't protrude more than 15 cms from the body extremity and in any case no more than 2.5m in total width.

Permits are for temporary loadings. No vehicle can be constructed to exceed 2.5m.

[deezilfither]

Regarding dropside tray size,eg-length of tray.
The general rule of thumb is No more than 60% of wheelbase over hang from centre line of rear axle to rear of tray.
For example-wheelbase of 130 is 3225mm
3225mm x 60%= 1935mm.This would be the MAX dimension from rear axle centre line to rear of tray.'[overhang] You would find it difficult to tow anything and wouldn't do much for chassis reliability,you would be spot lighting koalas with headlights.

110 single cab,with a 2260mm long tray has 1330mm over hang from rear axle c/line to rear of tray,and 930mm forward to behind cab. This 110 is an example that I have seen,and measured.:)

[VladTepes]

while you are on a roll rijidij.. how about a few more extended tray pics
1. with two (rather than one) lazy axles on the rear)
2. Half track version !

[The ho har's]

while you are on a roll rijidij.. how about a few more extended tray pics
1. with two (rather than one) lazy axles on the rear)
2. Half track version !


Now you are talking there Vlad...hmmm half track would look pretty cool I would think:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[rijidij]

while you are on a roll rijidij.. how about a few more extended tray pics
1. with two (rather than one) lazy axles on the rear)
2. Half track version !

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/214.jpg

[kcdef]

Awesome, now that I like, don't know whether the grounds folk at school would be too happy with me though.

I am sought of looking for a HCPU tray to convert into a trailer for my 130. I know I could convert the old girl to a tray and do it that way, just sort of like the original out of the box look though.

[iClick]

Hi, resurrecting an old thread.

I have the opportunity to buy this canopy:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/455.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/456.jpg

It's 2200L x 2150W Would it fit on a 130 Dual Cab?

[rainman]

Yes. You will have a fair amount of overhang, but still legal. Have a look on page 2 of this thread. There is a picture of a dual cab with a 2.25 metre long body.

James.

[towe0609]

This is a 2.1m long Carry me Camper on a custom tray.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[juddy]

This is a 2.1m long Carry me Camper on a custom tray.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Is that a air con unit on the roof?

[towe0609]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/130351-air-con-red-dot-6100-1999-td5-130-dual-cab.html

[juddy]

Really good, thanks for the link...:)

[iClick]

Thanks for the replies - just won the auction for the canopy. Now just have to find a 130 to put it on :p

Talk about putting the cart before the horse!