Defender tyre change / jacking

[rockyroad]

I have a 2000 model 110 with the hideous Bridgestone duellers. I have had to change 3 tyres in the past month and am finding this a rather painfull venture.

Each time it seems to be a tube issue with no obvious punctures which makes me wonder if maybe all the tubes are at the end of their lifespan and are all giving in one at a time?

The acutal changing of the tyre though is the trouble as I REALLY dont like the standard jack supplied with the vehicle. I started carrying a workshop trolley jack but am finding that unless the surface is a perfectly flat workshop floor it just cant get the tyre off the ground which leaves me with the standard wind up job which takes for ever.

What is everyone else using? I thought I saw somewhere an adapter to use a high lift jack on the Defender jacking points. Does anyone know where to get it?

[KarlB]

You can get the adapter from Opposite Lock ($67). I think they may originally be a Dolium import. Alternatively, a hydraulic bottle jack is not too expensive.

[woody]

touch wood I haven't had to change a tyre yet but I got myself the adapter for the highlift jack and have the jack mounted mounted horizontal across the back of the Defender (just remember to keep it greased/lubricated).

Jack Adaptor - Land Rover and Other (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?next_page=product/product_detail.php&product_id=8501)

Defender Jack Mnt Horiz (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?next_page=product/product_detail.php&product_id=8856)

not exactly cheap but sure is convienent [thumbsupbig]

[rockyroad]

Thanks guys, just having a look at the OL website and have found what I need.

Just need some $$ for some new tyres now to make me real happy.

[ugu80]

[QUOTE=rockyroad;1226326]I have a 2000 model 110 with the hideous Bridgestone duellers. I have had to change 3 tyres in the past month and am finding this a rather painfull venture.

Each time it seems to be a tube issue with no obvious punctures which makes me wonder if maybe all the tubes are at the end of their lifespan and are all giving in one at a time?



Interesting. I had five flat tyres in two off road (admittedly very rough) excursions. Same thing, tyre OK with tubes (some new ones) tearing at the valve. I think the tyre was moving so much under stress that it was pulling the valve. Anyway, replaced the standard with Maxxis mudders on steel tubeless rims and no more problems. I know some swear by the tubes, but......seems strange we have both had the same problem.

[scanfor]

Rockyroad

I have had exactly the same experience with those tyres.
In all cases the tube was torn with no apparent reason.

The solution - change them to tubeless.
Why did they fit them with tubes in the first place?
Do they think it's a Landcruiser with split rims?

Regards
Scott

[SVX37]

This thread has got me thinking...

Have people removed their standard jacks from their Defenders and replaced them with a High Lift Jack with the adaptor? I would think there is only the need for one or the other?

I currently do not own a High Lift as I have always considered them to be potentially quite dangerous. (Possibly no more dangerous than the standard jack.)

However, I am now thinking a High Lift would be far easier to change a tyre with the addition of the adaptor and a base plate.

Peoples comments and experience welcome...

[stig0000]

This thread has got me thinking...

Have people removed their standard jacks from their Defenders and replaced them with a High Lift Jack with the adaptor? I would think there is only the need for one or the other?

I currently do not own a High Lift as I have always considered them to be potentially quite dangerous. (Possibly no more dangerous than the standard jack.)

However, I am now thinking a High Lift would be far easier to change a tyre with the addition of the adaptor and a base plate.

Peoples comments and experience welcome...

i dont have a high lift,,, i use a bottle jack on the diff,

i like a high lift used properly but i can see a prob with one on my car,,, because i have longer shocks it will have to jack the car up alot more ,, more then i would like, so i think thats a thing to consider;)

[jakeslouw]

The tubes are tearing at the valve due to rotation of the tyre on the rim.

Off-road bikes have a solution:
Rim Lock / Bead Lock / Bead Stopper Installation on 4Strokes.com (http://www.4strokes.com/tech/rimlock/)

To do this on your rims, you'd need a bead-lock:
Beadlock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Bundalene]

The attached pic is our Hi-lift, with a Landrover lift adapter, a solid piece of bar and a Ubrako bolt (very high grade) We colour co-ordinated ours.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/oct22002.jpg/)

This is where the jack is stowed

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/oct22003.jpg/)

The only problem with the jack in this position is that it requires regular cleaning and re-lubricating (the base plate is kept inside, in the rear door pocket with the wheel spanners etc. It is very important not to use these jacks in any position on the vehicle other than the designated jacking points.

We also cary a Disco hydraulic jack and some wood blocks.

As for your tube failures, we went to tubeless tyres when we had our 1999 TD5 Defender.

Erich

[slug_burner]

tubes are for wheels that are made without the lip inside required to hold tubeless tyres in. It is easier to dismount a tubed tyre/rim combo for repairs out bush.

[SVX37]

Thanks for the info Bundalene but I can't view the pics?

[D90]

The attached pic is our Hi-lift, with a Landrover lift adapter, a solid piece of bar and a Ubrako bolt (very high grade) We colour co-ordinated ours.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2852/oct22002.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/oct22002.jpg/)

This is where the jack is stowed

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7306/oct22003.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/oct22003.jpg/)

The only problem with the jack in this position is that it requires regular cleaning and re-lubricating (the base plate is kept inside, in the rear door pocket with the wheel spanners etc. It is very important not to use these jacks in any position on the vehicle other than the designated jacking points.

We also cary a Disco hydraulic jack and some wood blocks.

As for your tube failures, we went to tubeless tyres when we had our 1999 TD5 Defender.

Erich



Where on the car do you you use the high lift jack and the adapter?
I thought the only jacking points on a stock defender were under the diffs?

[dullbird]

there are holes in the rear cross member for lifting hats where the original jack goes

and as you can see on erichs car he has adapted his bullbar and put jacking holes on the front:)

[rockyroad]

I like the idea of the hi lift as it doesnt involve getting under the vehicle. If the standard jack wasnt so slow it would be great.

Needless to say that a hi lift jack with landrover adapter and a set of new maxis or BFG's are on the shopping list.

I also have a 97 Disco and wasnt a big fan of the standard bottle jack that came with it, but then again I have only ever had 2 punctures in 6 years and both were from screws.

Never realised how much LR stuff was at Opposite Lock, I never go there because it is attached to our local money hungry Toyota dealer.

[dullbird]

we carried both the original jack and the hi lift.....

when we punctured the tyre the original jack came out..I dont like using hi lifts to change wheels there not overly stable, the higher the car goes the more the hilift leans in to the car...and if god forbid you knocked it and the handle walked its self while you were in the way you would be looking at broken bones.

the disco bottle jack is now in the defender as its just easier to use this I feel.

[flagg]

Having exactly the same problem with rapid deflations for 'no reason' with my current tubed Cooper STs.

I /hate/ the LR jack, had one collapse on me once (broken welds) - nearly ripped both my arms off while I was changing a tire on the Mitchell Plateau. I went out and got a HiLift style jack and an adapter.

The thing to be careful with with HiLifts is that they can fall from side to side.. This happened to my 2a.. So make sure you use a chok on all wheels, and engauge difflocks and the handbrake.

If you have a lift you pretty much have to use a bottle jack.

[MinniTheMoocha]

I had a flat in my front right tyre so went to the tyre shop to have it changed.

I thought the tyre guy was having me on saying "all the tubes probably need to be replaced due to their age". I only did the front one.

Well its probably about 4 - 5 months ago and now the rear right has done the same thing, tyre ok but flat. So maybe the tyre bloke was right after all!

Seeing that I have a desert trip in the next four weeks I decided to just get all the tubes replaced. Did a tyre a day for 3 days so I didn't have to leave the truck with him.

I have used used the original jack, hilift jack and also a Range Rover/Discovery bottle jack and the advantage of the Rover bottle jack is the curved foot for fitting under the axle housing and it is by far the quickest and easiest at raising the wheel off the ground. The hilift needs to be used with caution to avoid self injury but has other advantages such as lifting the car out of ditches/ruts or lifting the truck to put materials under the wheels to improve traction. The original jack works but takes far too long especially now that I have a 2" lift.

[nayto]

This may sound like a silly question but where is the original jack kept in the 110 defenders? i cant find mine so im guessing it doesnt have one?

[slug_burner]

Mine was attched to the legs of the back seat, a couple of velcro strips, the jack is in a vinyl bag.

[numpty]

Strapped to the floor under the seat. It's a POS and I also use a bottle jack for tyre changing.

[Bundalene]

Land Rover jack (ex 200TDi) free to a new home. I don't have the winder, but it wouldn't be difficult to improvise. Pick up at Horsley Park, west Sydney or I can courier it (at your expense)

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6306/dscn0783n.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/dscn0783n.jpg/)

Erich

[Reads90]

This thread has got me thinking...

Have people removed their standard jacks from their Defenders and replaced them with a High Lift Jack with the adaptor? I would think there is only the need for one or the other?

I currently do not own a High Lift as I have always considered them to be potentially quite dangerous. (Possibly no more dangerous than the standard jack.)

However, I am now thinking a High Lift would be far easier to change a tyre with the addition of the adaptor and a base plate.

Peoples comments and experience welcome...

Every Defender i have ever had i have taken out the Land Rover jack and replaced it with A Hi Lift and Adaptor. Both my 110 and 90 have hi lifts in and Adaptors.


My 110 one sits under the back seats and is held in place by Hi lift Tie Downs. The 90 one goes into the rear bulkhead where the Land Rover Gen one sits

Don't get me wrong Hi lifts can be dangerous things , but make chaning a tyre on a defnefenr a hundred times easer and quicker than doing it with the land rover ones

[Bushie]

The standard land rover jack (defender) is an abomination, over the years I've used hydraulic bottle jacks and even a toyota screw jack (used to have one in the Rangie as well). On trips I carry the hi-lift but generally find it easier and quicker to get the bottle jack out.

As for tubes, finding good ones is the secret (Michellin or Bridgestone tubes seem OK) try and keep away from the Taiwanese condoms that most tyre places use and make sure the valve stem is the right one (diam) for your rims.



Martyn

[Reads90]

As for tubes, finding good ones is the secret (Michellin or Bridgestone tubes seem OK) try and keep away from the Taiwanese condoms that most tyre places use and make sure the valve stem is the right one (diam) for your rims.



Martyn

as for Tubes i willl only use Michellin . More expensive but cost less in the long run Had far too many problems in the past with others .

And Had many an arguemnet with a tyre shop that wants to sell me a cheap set of tubes.

[bcj]

go with michellin tubes-I don't like to use high lift jack for tyre change unless no other option, to unstable
Brett
110 300tdi