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Owl
18th April 2010, 04:16 PM
Has anyone here used these? Is something similar available locally?
The Best LR3 Rock Sliders (http://www.offroving.com/lr3rocksliders.html)

CSBrisie
18th April 2010, 06:58 PM
Try GOE

Services (http://www.greenovalexperience.com/rock_sliders.html)

Jamo
19th April 2010, 08:31 AM
Hello Owl

I had these. They are fantastic. Very very strong! I had the full rail to chassis ones. They will easily support the vehicle on rocks etc.

Very expensive though. Cost me over $800 getting them into the country. Even Quarantine slugged me $250 in inspection fees.

stevecor
20th April 2010, 07:25 AM
Hi Owl,
Have a look at this site.
GN Vehicle Protection Sump Guards Ladder Rock Sliders Sill Protectors Tree Sliders Discovery 3 Land Rover Discovery 4 Disco 3 Disco 4 (http://www.gnvehicleprotection.co.uk/)

WhiteD3
20th April 2010, 08:21 AM
Hi Owl,
Have a look at this site.
GN Vehicle Protection Sump Guards Ladder Rock Sliders Sill Protectors Tree Sliders Discovery 3 Land Rover Discovery 4 Disco 3 Disco 4 (http://www.gnvehicleprotection.co.uk/)

Aluminium rock sliders?

stevecor
20th April 2010, 08:57 AM
Not so unusual check here.
GOE Australia - Land Rover D3 (LR3), FL2 and Range Rover Sport Training and info (http://www.greenOvalExperience.com)

Owl
20th April 2010, 10:33 AM
Aluminium rock sliders?

I thought the same for the GOE sliders! The 3/16" (4.8mm) steel of the "Off Roading" sliders is more appealing, and also protects the air pump, but the price........

The sliders on my old GQ took a beating over the years - saved mega $$'s in panel beating costs in their time. Maybe US$1400 + 800 in shipping is still cheap!

Owl
20th April 2010, 10:51 AM
Aluminium rock sliders?

I looked further at the GNVP site and found this:
GN Vehicle Protection Sump Guards Ladder Rock Sliders Sill Protectors Tree Sliders Discovery 3 Land Rover Discovery 4 Disco 3 Disco 4 (http://www.gnvehicleprotection.co.uk/d3step.htm)

5mm steel. No protection for the air pump and 450 pounds (~AU$750) plus getting them here.

gghaggis
20th April 2010, 11:42 AM
I thought the same for the GOE sliders! The 3/16" (4.8mm) steel of the "Off Roading" sliders is more appealing, and also protects the air pump, but the price........

The sliders on my old GQ took a beating over the years - saved mega $$'s in panel beating costs in their time. Maybe US$1400 + 800 in shipping is still cheap!

The GOE sliders are 6mm high-impact alloy - I ran one set for 4 years, through 6 competitions, so they certainly got bashed around. They're still in use - re-powdercoated and sold second-hand, so I'm pretty confident that they do the job!

With the GOE design, the compressor plate is a separate item. This allows easy access to the compressor (important if you're using dealer-servicing), and the slider doesn't rigidly connect the monoform body to the chassis, another important point.

Cheers,

Gordon

Neil P
20th April 2010, 12:02 PM
I had these.... the full rail to chassis ones.

Did you leave these and all the other accessories on when selling Jamo ?

Neil P
20th April 2010, 12:06 PM
The sliders on my old GQ took a beating over the years - How much did those cover compared to the Off Roving
examples you're considering ?

Owl
20th April 2010, 12:07 PM
and the slider doesn't rigidly connect the monoform body to the chassis, another important point.

Gordon

I looked at this on the "Off Roading" sliders as initially I thought they had breached this Chassis / Body divide - but they quite cleverly haven't. On the outside, they mount the slider to the body as do most other vendors of D3 sliders, and on the inside, they use the body mount bolt, which is rigidly attached to the body and isolated from the chassis by the rubber!

Good point on the service access though - whether dealer or self serviced!

Ian

Owl
20th April 2010, 12:25 PM
How much did those cover compared to the Off Roving
examples you're considering ?

The GQ sliders were quite different - they were attached to the chassis rails and not to the body. The GQ was also well protected underneath - vulnerable bits were all tucked up well out of the way of rocks etc. Didn't really need any additional protection.

Jamo
20th April 2010, 12:45 PM
With the GOE design, the compressor plate is a separate item. This allows easy access to the compressor (important if you're using dealer-servicing))


This would be the only thing about the Off Roving Sliders. The entire unit has to be removed to get to the compressor. Not hard though. If I could have it on an off inside 30min whilst lying on the garage floor and usuing a trolley jack on the slider, then the dealer should be able to do it faster!

(Anyway, what are you saying Gordon? Are you saying the compressor needs regular servicing/repair?;):p)

As Owl pointed out the Off Roving sliders don't rigidly connect the body to the chassis.

I must point out that when i purchased them, Gordon had just made his for himself and hadn't started producing them for others.

Sorry Neil. The sliders went with the vehicle. I believe the new owner lives in Perth somewhere now.

Neil P
20th April 2010, 01:19 PM
.. Sorry Neil. The sliders went with the vehicle.

I was only curious Jamo . You had just about every possible
add-on on that Baby ! Must have come in at well over 3 tonnes
with the roof tent and 6 wheels too :lol2:

Jamo
20th April 2010, 01:52 PM
Yes, she was getting rather obese. It was noticeable on really soft sand, where the extra weight made bogging more likely and some sand hills almost impossible to cross.

Made no other difference. Fuel economy averaged around 12-13l/100km, but I left the roof rack on permanently, so most of the exta usage would have been due to that.

Owl
24th April 2010, 05:42 AM
Is anyone in the Melbourne area interested in buying a set of the Off Roving rock sliders?
The Best LR3 Rock Sliders (http://www.offroving.com/lr3rocksliders.html)
No discount on the sliders, but shipping comes down dramatically with multiple orders. US$450 for 1 set, US$325 ea for 2 sets....... and it gets better

Guss
24th April 2010, 07:21 AM
Is anyone in the Melbourne area interested in buying a set of the Off Roving rock sliders?
The Best LR3 Rock Sliders (http://www.offroving.com/lr3rocksliders.html)
No discount on the sliders, but shipping comes down dramatically with multiple orders. US$450 for 1 set, US$325 ea for 2 sets....... and it gets better


Do the rear mud flaps still fit with the rock sliders attached?

Neil P
24th April 2010, 08:27 AM
.. Melbourne area . US$450 for 1 set, US$325 ea for 2 sets.......

Have you contacted IQGlobal's agent in Melbourne to see what
you're going to be up for before they'll release them to you ?
A few $ off the CTI container won't make the waverer pull the trigger ......

Owl
24th April 2010, 08:29 AM
Do the rear mud flaps still fit with the rock sliders attached?
The sliders fit between the front and rear wheels - there is no modification required at the rear of the rear wheel arch. There's some trimming required to the plastic cover at the front of the rear wheel arch and the rear of the front wheel arch.

Your rear mud flaps are safe!

There's full fitting instructions here:
http://www.offroving.com/RS-LR3slider_Install_Rev051909.pdf

Ian

Owl
24th April 2010, 08:45 AM
Have you contacted IQGlobal's agent in Melbourne to see what
you're going to be up for before they'll release them to you ?
A few $ off the CTI container won't make the waverer pull the trigger ......
Ah Neil,
You are quite right - there will be additional charges for customs clearance, duty, ...... etc.

I'm feeling the water at this stage to see if there is any other interest! If there is, we will need to have these numbers defined at that time.

Ian

Neil P
24th April 2010, 09:43 AM
There are many "bits of costs" ;

Delivery Order: AUD75.00 Per B/L
SCA: AUD45.00 Per B/L
Terminal Security: AUD12.50 per shipment
EDI: AUD22.00 per shipment
PSC: AUD90.00 per m3
Customs Clearance: AUD165.00 (up to 5 lines)
Quarantine Declaration Fee: AUD35.00 per B/L


Besides this , add GST ( exchange rate at shipped date ) on the landed price. I've never agreed with paying GST on a service component ( read ; freight ) that is overseas . Broker (USA made is 0% import tax ) and a few of Tony Soprano's mates if you're in Vic .lol !
You'll see your Sliders in 4 months .

.... and a contact at IQGlobal Logistics , if you haven't got that far yet .





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Owl
24th April 2010, 10:15 AM
There are many "bits of costs" ;

Delivery Order: AUD75.00 Per B/L
SCA: AUD45.00 Per B/L
Terminal Security: AUD12.50 per shipment
EDI: AUD22.00 per shipment
PSC: AUD90.00 per m3
Customs Clearance: AUD165.00 (up to 5 lines)
Quarantine Declaration Fee: AUD35.00 per B/L


Besides this , add GST ( exchange rate at shipped date ) on the landed price. I've never agreed with paying GST on a service component ( read ; freight ) that is overseas . Broker (USA made is 0% import tax ) and a few of Tony Soprano's mates if you're in Vic .lol !
You'll see your Sliders in 4 months .

.... and a contact at IQGlobal Logistics , if you haven't got that far yet .





http://www.aulro.com/afvb/cid:image001.jpg@01C9DE9C.E3986690


22580 Glenn Drive Ste 10
Sterling, VA 20164 USA
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/cid:image002.gif@01C9DE9C.E3986690
Michael Weibel
Operations Director
OFC 703-433-0280
FAX 703-935-0510
CEL 703-930-5925




Thanks Neil,
Not much left of that cherry after all that is there?

Prices you quote are not out of the ballpark I was expecting. Once again, most of those costs can be shared with multiple units shipped if there is any other interest.

Any other interest?

Ian

Jamo
24th April 2010, 12:47 PM
Mine took 6 weeks to get from Calif to Esperance.

Neil P
24th April 2010, 01:33 PM
BNE and SYD was via NY Port ..........
Tassie Bob waited 10 weeks .
Come clean Jamo , who's your inside contact for
that speed-of-sound delivery ? ;)

Disco3QLD
22nd June 2010, 10:54 AM
Hi, I dont know if anyone is still interested in D3 Sliders. But If I can get a sample I can make them up (with a few mod's if necessary) here in Brisbane?

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 10:59 AM
You up for this ?


Custom LR3 Sliders - Land Rover Repair Forums - LRRForums.com

Disco3QLD
22nd June 2010, 01:44 PM
Neil,
I can't open the pics without signing up & I can't sign up cause there is a issue with their site with the reCAPTCHA key.

Can you post them? But even then a sample for an hour or so would be sooo much easier as time to design them is not something I have a lot of.

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 02:17 PM
I'll download and resize and upload . Give me a mo'

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 02:25 PM
No particular order here ..........

Guss
22nd June 2010, 02:26 PM
Hi, I dont know if anyone is still interested in D3 Sliders. But If I can get a sample I can make them up (with a few mod's if necessary) here in Brisbane?


Sounds go to me Disco3QLD.

Can help if you think I'd be useful :)

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 02:28 PM
.... and more .....

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 02:29 PM
..... and .....

Disco3QLD
22nd June 2010, 02:41 PM
They look easy enough. I can have them laser cut, fabricated & powder coated/sprayed. The problem is the 1st one. They have obviously spent a lot of time making it right.

Guss, can you get your hands on one (slider I mean)?

Neil P
22nd June 2010, 02:46 PM
Here's a commercial one from N Woods photos ;

http://www.offroving.com/

Disco3QLD
22nd June 2010, 02:54 PM
Is there anyone out there in Brisbane that has them (fitted or not). That wouldn't mind me measuring them up?

Duck's Guts
30th June 2010, 06:06 PM
The GOE sliders are 6mm high-impact alloy - I ran one set for 4 years, through 6 competitions, so they certainly got bashed around. They're still in use - re-powdercoated and sold second-hand, so I'm pretty confident that they do the job!

With the GOE design, the compressor plate is a separate item. This allows easy access to the compressor (important if you're using dealer-servicing), and the slider doesn't rigidly connect the monoform body to the chassis, another important point.

Cheers,

Gordon

Hey Gordon,

I've looked at ya website. But I'm still unclear. I am interested in sliders (with standoff bars / side step) & compressor plate to suit a D4.
Can you help?
Perhaps you can PM me a price?
Also, I'm at Singleton in NSW, so is this a problem?

Thanks,
Marc...

gghaggis
30th June 2010, 07:29 PM
PM sent!

Cheers,

Gordon


Hey Gordon,

I've looked at ya website. But I'm still unclear. I am interested in sliders (with standoff bars / side step) & compressor plate to suit a D4.
Can you help?
Perhaps you can PM me a price?
Also, I'm at Singleton in NSW, so is this a problem?

Thanks,
Marc...

Disco3QLD
22nd July 2010, 12:11 PM
I was discussing Sliders & side steps today with the ARB guy & he said that stand off's or strong side steps & scrub bars are not legal on a D3 because of side air bags. Does anyone know about this?

Duck's Guts
22nd July 2010, 04:00 PM
I've been advised the same with respect to a D4 by both ARB & by Bruce Davis of Davis Performance Landys.

Disco3QLD
24th July 2010, 06:19 AM
Thanks. It's bloody frustrating with these newer cars & their air bags ect. & wheel & suspension laws. One thing I have learned since owning a D3 is that Modifications/upgrades are a lot more complicated than they should be.

gghaggis
24th July 2010, 09:30 PM
I've been advised the same with respect to a D4 by both ARB & by Bruce Davis of Davis Performance Landys.

Quick post from transit lounge, Mauritius ...........

Stand-off bars that attach rigidly to the chassis would affect air-bag response. Those that only attach to the sill shouldn't.

Cheers,

Gordon

Disco3QLD
23rd August 2010, 06:43 AM
Here is some pics of the sliders I have made. I'm really happy with the way they have turned out.[biggrin]

I have kept the pipe rails closer to the body because I wanted to reduce leverage & possibly tearing out from the standard threads in the sill. Material is 5mm mild steel plate. I have left a 10mm spacing between the bottom plate & the bottom of the sill for drainage & put a self adhesive foam seal along the top edge so it doesn't scratch the body & keeps a bit of moisture out.
The only bit I am not sure of is at the bottom of the front flare, if it needs to be finished off with something or leave it as is.

I am open to any suggestions.

Thanks for all of your help. As for a price I am waiting on a quote from the laser cutters. Let me know if your interested via PM.

Thanks.

Disco4SE
23rd August 2010, 07:05 AM
Hey they look great Disco3. You may have to go into production.
Cheers, Craig

Disco3QLD
24th August 2010, 12:37 PM
Thanks Craig,
I will make some up to sell if I have enough interest.
I certainly won't be in it to get rich though. I just hate the idea of bottoming out my pride & joy & damaging stuff. I'm sure others feel the same way.

Do you recon they will fit the same mounting points on the D4?

Regards,
Brad

Disco4SE
24th August 2010, 02:25 PM
Hi Brad, not sure about fitting the D4. There are probably others on the forum that are able to answer your query.
If they do, I'm sure you would get some interest.
Cheers, Craig

Disco3QLD
24th August 2010, 03:54 PM
A couple more pics of the front flare area.
Any ideas on how to fill it are most welcome.

Dirty3
24th August 2010, 10:52 PM
Excellent job. They look strong and don't detract from the appearance.