View Full Version : 2"+ lift vibration
stig0000
18th April 2010, 09:30 PM
well i finally fitted my 3" lift on he weekend,:D:D all went very well and easy in/out,
very exited at how it looks and stands,,
but its never easy on this great cars:D;)
i have a driveline vib at exactly 55kph,
to start i ordered a very soft 3" so its actually sits about 2 1/2" from standard. As i didn't want a 2" HD springs as id prefer the ride to be softer, and plus it will flex better with the flexy coils anyway:D
but yes i have a vib at 55,, and im suspecting its the front prop,, so im going to get a double cardon prop, are the D2s and fenders front props interchangeable;)
and how much is good price for one,, or is it better to get my front one rebuilt to a better joint, and yes all my joint are all ok and well greased
Sleepy
18th April 2010, 10:05 PM
Very interesting - I am thinking of doing similar on the 90. Watching with interest........:angel:
stig0000
18th April 2010, 10:15 PM
Very interesting - I am thinking of doing similar on the 90. Watching with interest........:angel:
i have sus stuff extended shocks and lovels springs,, and the ride is just perfict, very very very happy with the out come,, even the vib hasnet put me off one bit, all up cost me about 750$, but fixing the vib mite cost a bit:( hope its somthing simple,
Sleepy
18th April 2010, 11:03 PM
i have sus stuff extended shocks and lovels springs,, and the ride is just perfict, very very very happy with the out come,, even the vib hasnet put me off one bit, all up cost me about 750$, but fixing the vib mite cost a bit:( hope its somthing simple,
hopefully it is , as you say, a driveshaft issue. Would re-balancing it help?
Whey you say "i have sus stuff" do you mean "suspect" - thought that meant bad:confused:
DiscoScout
19th April 2010, 12:18 AM
hopefully it is , as you say, a driveshaft issue. Would re-balancing it help?
Whey you say "i have sus stuff" do you mean "suspect" - thought that meant bad:confused:
He most probably mean sus stuff as in "suspension stuff" the online store, but i stand to be corrected.
stig0000
19th April 2010, 05:37 AM
He most probably mean sus stuff as in "suspension stuff" the online store, but i stand to be corrected.
yes that correct, very good,,, fast delivery and postage is free
isuzu110
19th April 2010, 07:34 AM
I believe you can use a D2 front prop shaft plus the d2 drive flange. When I was contemplating this, new parts were going to cost upwards of $600.
5teve
19th April 2010, 09:42 AM
wouldnt castor correction bushes / rad arms resolve this? i thought anything over an inch lift on the deefers you were in the territory of unwanted vibrations?
Thanks
Steve
Tombie
19th April 2010, 10:12 AM
D2 style front shaft will fix this, but fit a HardiSpicer DC joint to it or it will fail!
You'll need the D2 front output flange as well (easy to change over)
lambrover
19th April 2010, 06:55 PM
When you lift a defer up to that hight it has the front prop shaft uni at the T-case end rubbing on it's self and this is the corse of the vib, seen it before. I wouldn't use a D2 front prop as they are built abit on the cheap, no grease points, get yours modified by local Hardy Spicer they use good components, it will cost abit more but will last longer.
The other point mentioned was front radius arms, these correct castor angle which is lost by the lift but effects the pinion angle, in my opinion the best way to fix this is by fitting slotted swivel hubs, this corrects the castor angle and dosn't interfer with the pinion angle
stig0000
19th April 2010, 07:16 PM
When you lift a defer up to that hight it has the front prop shaft uni at the T-case end rubbing on it's self and this is the corse of the vib, seen it before. I wouldn't use a D2 front prop as they are built abit on the cheap, no grease points, get yours modified by local Hardy Spicer they use good components, it will cost abit more but will last longer.
The other point mentioned was front radius arms, these correct castor angle which is lost by the lift but effects the pinion angle, in my opinion the best way to fix this is by fitting slotted swivel hubs, this corrects the castor angle and dosn't interfer with the pinion angle
fully agree with the caster,,, but its driving perfict,, no light steering,, wonering,, nothing, so that will be down the track, i need to sort out the vib first, and did you say that Hardy Spicer are local to me,, do you no were??;)
pommy
19th April 2010, 07:42 PM
I had this problems after lifting my defender 2 inch had the hubs slotted and swivelled but still had slight vibes so then fitted caster correction bushes as well and drives better than new now .
Yorkshire_Jon
19th April 2010, 08:28 PM
its all about restoring the original geometry. as others have said there are a few options. Ive never used the slotted swivels before so cant comment there.
D2 propshaft and T/Box flange will work, but I wouldnt - not good for long term reliability.
Castor corrected bushes work, but I wouldnt on an overlanding vehicle, for the same reason as D2 prop.
The most reliabel solution is to get a good double cardon front prop. The best I have ever used (and never had a problem on many customers vehicles) are those from www.baileymorris.co.uk (http://www.baileymorris.co.uk) - I assume there are similar propshaft experts over here, but the bailey ones are more or less off the shelf and bolt straight onto the existing flanges.
Jon
lambrover
19th April 2010, 09:39 PM
fully agree with the caster,,, but its driving perfict,, no light steering,, wonering,, nothing, so that will be down the track, i need to sort out the vib first, and did you say that Hardy Spicer are local to me,, do you no were??;)
Hardy Spicer are a big drive line company there would be one or similar around the area.
lambrover
19th April 2010, 09:43 PM
I had this problems after lifting my defender 2 inch had the hubs slotted and swivelled but still had slight vibes so then fitted caster correction bushes as well and drives better than new now .
You would still get vids, as the slotted hub only correct castor angle, the slotted bushes in the radius arms have rolled the diff housing to give some relief on the uni joints but is not the best way of fixing the problem, a double cardon or wide angle uni joint is the best.
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