View Full Version : Fraser Island, 2 fatalities again
Chucaro
19th April 2010, 08:30 PM
The coronial enquire is under way for the accident on 2009
Today (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/19/2876079.htm) news
When this carnage it is going to finish!!:mad::(
2 tourists are dead and nine in hospital!!
The news are HERE
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/04/20/2547349.htm)
Landy Smurf
19th April 2010, 09:50 PM
its going to ruin it for everyone else, in a non mean kind of a way
DeeJay
19th April 2010, 10:28 PM
Sorry mate but you posted this up as though it was just now.
It was April 2009.
I would think the nine are out of hospital by now...
Chucaro
20th April 2010, 06:35 AM
Sorry mate but you posted this up as though it was just now.
It was April 2009.
I would think the nine are out of hospital by now...
I know that, the post is about the starting of the coronial enquire and the second link the reference about the accident which have caused the enquire.
stevo68
20th April 2010, 07:58 AM
I challenge you to post up something positive....a positive news piece that doesn't involve someone dying, a politician, a company etc etc. Might be nice for a change??
Regards
Stevo
Camo
20th April 2010, 08:08 AM
Thats right Stevo
Should post up better news like this :D
A bloody death for villain Carl | The Daily Telegraph (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/a-bloody-death-for-dumb-fat-carl-williams/story-e6freuy9-1225855716334)
Camo
Chucaro
20th April 2010, 08:55 AM
I challenge you to post up something positive....a positive news piece that doesn't involve someone dying, a politician, a company etc etc. Might be nice for a change??
Regards
Stevo
If you would like to live in "Alice Wonderland" and bury your head in the sand it is your choice.
I believe that we have to be aware of what it is going on and what can affect us in the future.
A coronial enquire will put some recommendations and submisions will follow.
If you are not awere of that you will not have the cance to express your points of view.
If ignoring this issues it is your choice........it is simple do not read my posts.
Cheers
DeeJay
20th April 2010, 11:16 PM
If you would like to live in "Alice Wonderland" and bury your head in the sand it is your choice.
I believe that we have to be aware of what it is going on and what can affect us in the future.
A coronial enquire will put some recommendations and submisions will follow.
If you are not awere of that you will not have the cance to express your points of view.
If ignoring this issues it is your choice........it is simple do not read my posts.
Cheers
Sounds positive to me:D
UncleHo
21st April 2010, 08:53 AM
G'day Folks :)
The result of the inquiry could find that anyone that does not hold an Australian car license not be allowed to hire or drive a vehicle, or that ALL hire vehicles have to have an accredited (Qld Tpt dept) driver with a current authorisation.
I think it might also be a good thing ;)
cheers
Hardchina
21st April 2010, 09:16 AM
G'day Folks :)
The result of the inquiry could find that anyone that does not hold an Australian car license not be allowed to hire or drive a vehicle, or that ALL hire vehicles have to have an accredited (Qld Tpt dept) driver with a current authorisation.
I think it might also be a good thing ;)
cheers
Thats a bit extreme, We can go pretty much anyhere in the world - get a car or bike and drive around like a local - why should it be different when tourists come here?
Personally i'd like the inquiry to come to the conclusion that "poo happens, lets all build a bridge" :D. But they wont, they make their livelyhood by inquiring, so need to make something of it.
3toes
21st April 2010, 10:52 PM
"Dr Richardson said troop carriers were deceptive vehicles that look like a regular passenger vehicle but handle more like a truck. He said they also had a tendency to overturn because of their narrow wheel base and high centre of gravity."
Above is a quote off the ABC news web site today in regard to the crash enquiry. Comment to the enquiry is from a Forensic engineer called Dr Shane Richardson.
Based on this information from an expert in the subject it would seem the government will have to ban young drivers from 4X4 vehicles and also consider a recall as they are unsafe to drive due to poor design causing roll over accidents.
Jono70
22nd April 2010, 04:54 PM
Was on Fraser over Easter. A European driver with no experience driving a 4x4 on sand with a few mates drinking in the back is very unsafe doing 80km on the Eastern Beach. Same as it is for an Australian to do 160kph on the Auotbahn in snow in a VW Transporter full of mates drinking in the back.
dlatn
23rd April 2010, 01:08 AM
<rant>
The only motorized vehicles allowed on Fraser Island should be national park service vehicles. if your too lazy too walk in a national park and wanna drive around on a beach like a stuck fick buy your own beach. and ban overhead flightseeing tours at the same time.
</rant>
Chucaro
23rd April 2010, 08:27 AM
<rant>
The only motorized vehicles allowed on Fraser Island should be national park service vehicles. if your too lazy too walk in a national park and wanna drive around on a beach like a stuck fick buy your own beach. and ban overhead flightseeing tours at the same time.
</rant>
:eek:
Mate, you are not longer in our Christmas card list :D
Land Rovers and Range Rovers belong to AULRO members should be be allowed to drive on Fraser as well ;)
akovach
23rd April 2010, 09:26 AM
The thing is with our society, people won't take responsibility for their actions. It's a tragedy with what's happened and the only way to fix it is with education. And not just in this case. And the problem with education? It takes time and money. That's why we live, as Mark Weber reiterated, "In a Nanny State!" You take control of people's behaviour and actions. It's cheaper, easier and you get in the political sense, a quicker result.
VladTepes
23rd April 2010, 11:25 AM
The banning of roof racks on abckpacker troopies may help but when I was over there I saw companies are flouting it already on a technicality.
I saw numerous "Koala camper" Troopies (the ones with the high fibreglass roof on top) and the upper portion (the extension) is being used to store luggage. So it's not technically a roof rack, but all the weight is still up there). Obviously deeply concerned for their clients safety... not.
acovach- yep you have it right. My favourite term for those people who just want to be part of the "the government should look after me and I'm happy to be compliant with an unquestioning of all the bull**** laws they bring in, and wrapped in cotton wool" is SHEEPLE. They just follow the flock.
one_iota
23rd April 2010, 02:52 PM
Fraser Is deaths: coroner backs 60kph limit - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/23/2881308.htm'section=justin)
Coroner Michael Barnes has recommended the speed limit on Fraser Island beaches in south-east Queensland be cut from 80 kilometres per hour to 60 kph following two crashes that killed three tourists......
Outlaw
23rd April 2010, 02:58 PM
Hmmm straight lines aren't the issue though :(
Actually Hendrik may disagree with that comment of mine :Rolling:
VladTepes
23rd April 2010, 03:09 PM
What a crock of ****.
At 80kph it took forever to get from Hook Point up to Waddy point. If you go slower it's even more difficult to beat the tides, which means more vehicles are concentrated into a shorter period of time, which makes the beaches more corwded which increases the chance of an accident.
Landy Smurf
23rd April 2010, 03:19 PM
What a crock of ****.
At 80kph it took forever to get from Hook Point up to Waddy point. If you go slower it's even more difficult to beat the tides, which means more vehicles are concentrated into a shorter period of time, which makes the beaches more corwded which increases the chance of an accident.
i agree.
i think the main reason is to much weight up top
Chucaro
23rd April 2010, 03:42 PM
Hang on the local ABC for the Wide Bay (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/23/2881308.htm'site=widebay§ion=news) said
A Queensland Coroner has recommended a reduced speed limit for hire cars on Fraser Island beaches in south-east Queensland.
AULRO cars do not apply to this rule :D
Chucaro
23rd April 2010, 03:44 PM
i agree.
i think the main reason is to much weight up top
Can not be a factor of stability on the Toyotas as well :angel:
one_iota
23rd April 2010, 03:44 PM
Fraser Is deaths: coroner backs 60kph limit - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/23/2881308.htm'section=justin)
The article has been updated and the headline now reads:
A Queensland Coroner has recommended a reduced speed limit for hire cars on Fraser Island beaches in south-east Queensland.
That will be interesting as well
Chucaro
23rd April 2010, 03:56 PM
Qld police will enforce the speed limits with their new police cars imported for USA
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/481.jpg
Chucaro
23rd April 2010, 04:17 PM
The news coming one bit at the time in diferent sources
In the Couriermail page (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/coroner-recommends-60kmh-limit-for-fraser-islands-beach-drivers/story-e6freon6-1225857488792)
Mr Barnes also recommended annual safety checks on all vehicles, a lowering of the island's beach speed limit to 60 kph and the age of hirers of 4WD vehicles on the island be lifted to 25.
Landy Smurf
23rd April 2010, 04:45 PM
Can not be a factor of stability on the Toyotas as well :angel:
they go hand in hand
VladTepes
27th April 2010, 10:01 PM
annual safety checks = government revenue raiser.
After all, the irresponsible unlicensed unregistered drivers never bother with them
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