Puma 2 Door 110 Wagons Can you Fit Mud Rails ? Versatile Rigs ?

[pc3]

Hi Folks,

with the 110 Puma Wagon 2 door varient, can you still fit the mud rails ? I have a feeling you cannot as there is a steel barrier just behind the front seats possibly.

Are these good rigs if you get them at the right price ?

Are they versatile in this format ? does anyone here own one ?

How would they go with a forward faceing rear seat for children (putting them in and out) ?

[Cannonball]

As far as I know Mud Products also supply a bulkhead removal bar so that mudrails can be fitted. Worth checking their web site for futher info.

[pc3]

Thanks for that is there much in removing the bulk head in a 110 hard top? I wonder what a after market seat added to rear would be like as far as getting kids in and out

[KarlB]

Few issues here. Firstly the vehicle would only be 'licensed' to carry two people. Not sure what the full implications of that are but certainly putting bench seats in the back, even with seatbelts would not get around that without getting appropriate engineer's certificate(s) which I suspect would involve fairly costly alterations to the vehicle to provide seatbelt and seat mounts. And you may not get that 'approval' with bench seats. There seems no point in considering forward facing seats as this would still involve at least the same costs, and probably more as the seats would be more expensive, and defeat what ever purpose you need the long load bed for. I suspect even if you got the 110 2 Door at a very good price, in the long run it would probably be cheaper to buy a Station Wagon especially if you are also talking about removing the bulk head (engineers certificate needed again). Also, if you are considering forward facing seats, you would need to consider the shape of the wheel boxes. Don't know what they are in the current 2 Door 110. Wheel boxes in the D90 and D110 Station Wagon are 'stepped' and if they are not the same in the 2 Door then you would have to use after market seats. Would not be surprised if the cost of installing 'approved' seats in the rear cost more than $10,000, and add to that another $3-5,000 if you want to remove the bulk head. God only knows what the implications for insurance would be (you would be insuring a significantly modified vehicle) and resale value.

Cheers
KarlB

[pc3]

Thanks for that, will look into it.

[JamesH]

And it getting the kids in and out of the back would be a major PIA, surely.

I'm sure they're useful cars but they're just not useful for you by the looks of it.

[muddys1]

this type of conversion is very common in WA, but have only seen it with toyota landcruiser troop carriers that we use in the mines.
hole is cut in left hand side for access, then floor is cut out and stepped.
3 forward facing seats are fitted in the rear and 2 forward facing placed behind the drivers seat, have also seen same make of vehicle fitted out with rear seats, but access is gained via the passengers seat which slides forward and swings to one side so you can climb through to the rear seats.
all exspensive modifications requiring eng plates to be fitted, but some companies specialise in this.
i would think that if seats were fitted, they would have to face forward and roll cages fitted, as these wagons are not 4 door there is no strength past the back of the front doors.
all this would cost big $$$$$$$
good luck
muddys1