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muddymech
20th April 2010, 06:54 PM
wow 90 buckes for a beer even more on e bay for the vintage stuff, thats steep i will be sticking to a big box of cheap stuff

Foster's to release $90-a-bottle Crown Ambassador Reserve | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/business/fosters-uses-100-a-bottle-rare-beer-to-promote-crown/story-e6frfm1i-1225855281731)

isuzurover
20th April 2010, 07:01 PM
wow 90 buckes for a beer even more on e bay for the vintage stuff, thats steep i will be sticking to a big box of cheap stuff

Foster's to release $90-a-bottle Crown Ambassador Reserve | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/business/fosters-uses-100-a-bottle-rare-beer-to-promote-crown/story-e6frfm1i-1225855281731)

Bugger that! $90/bottle for strong VB!

I will take this instead - a fraction of the price, and infinitely superior:
http://beerzou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/belgium/gazoubel/750Duvel.jpg

Sleepy
20th April 2010, 07:02 PM
wow 90 buckes for a beer even more on e bay for the vintage stuff, thats steep i will be sticking to a big box of cheap stuff

Foster's to release $90-a-bottle Crown Ambassador Reserve | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/business/fosters-uses-100-a-bottle-rare-beer-to-promote-crown/story-e6frfm1i-1225855281731)

Always wondered whether the word "****" is blocked by the swear filter:p

They are also working on the $50 bag of potato chips. :angel:

trog
20th April 2010, 07:34 PM
what images will show through these beer googles ?

Hardchina
20th April 2010, 07:45 PM
Ha Ha, Had some german work collegues come over - took them out for some beer tasting, explained to them how crown was our premium top shelf beer. One taste of it, well they looked at me like i was a dead set idiot. They did like our aussie strippers though.

abaddonxi
20th April 2010, 08:13 PM
Check out my local -
Casey's Beer (http://www.caseysbeer.com.au/)

Sleepy
20th April 2010, 08:34 PM
Ha Ha, Had some german work collegues come over - took them out for some beer tasting, explained to them how crown was our premium top shelf beer. One taste of it, well they looked at me like i was a dead set idiot. They did like our aussie strippers though.


:eek: hahahha......fosters with a gold label!....crownies are ok but premium:confused:

Hardchina
20th April 2010, 08:44 PM
:eek: hahahha......fosters with a gold label!....crownies are ok but premium:confused:

Hey I agree - cant stand the stuff, its coopers for me, which btw ze germans quite liked :)

Spenboyd
20th April 2010, 08:53 PM
whichever way you look at it crown is rubbish, being a fairly parochial west ozzie and a Freo local I reckon you struggle to beat any of the Little Creatures offerings (including their Vic branded White Rabbit number).
Well this side of Belgium anyway

Bigbjorn
20th April 2010, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings[QUOTE]

Overpriced and over-rated, like nearly all the "boutique brewery" products.

isuzurover
20th April 2010, 09:47 PM
[QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings[QUOTE]

Overpriced and over-rated, like nearly all the "boutique brewery" products.

lol - better than any of the chemical-filled pigswill brewed in SEQ.

ScottW
20th April 2010, 10:00 PM
Yep, I'd rather coopers and little creatures in my shed fridge than any of the local chemical brew... Since a carton lasts me a few months I don't mine paying a little more.

loanrangie
20th April 2010, 11:05 PM
[quote=Brian Hjelm;1233933][QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings

lol - better than any of the chemical-filled pigswill brewed in SEQ.

Touche' .- actually pigs wouldnt drink it .

land864
20th April 2010, 11:14 PM
I once heard Crown referred to as a Rat with a Gold Tooth:)

Spenboyd
20th April 2010, 11:20 PM
[QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings[QUOTE]

Overpriced and over-rated, like nearly all the "boutique brewery" products.

locally owned and brewed about 2 kms from my house and just plain better. As a relatively committed home brewer I will always support the people who actually put in and are passionate about what they produce as opposed to the wonders of modern chemistry knocked out by the multinationals

isuzurover
20th April 2010, 11:24 PM
I once heard Crown referred to as a Rat with a Gold Tooth:)

:D

That is a good one.

I call it the beer bogans drink when they are trying to look sophisticated.

Hardchina
20th April 2010, 11:51 PM
[QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings[QUOTE]

Overpriced and over-rated, like nearly all the "boutique brewery" products.


X2 It drives me nuts how much all these snobby little breweries think their beer is worth. Its like they charge exceptionally high prices, just to create an image - to get in with the fancy boy beer drinking crowd who think if its big $$ it must be good.

Why is it possible to buy quality imported beer cheaper than these little breweries pump out?

Anyway someone should be bringing this stuff into Oz

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Without doubt, the best beer in the world - full sized bottles and cheap!

isuzurover
21st April 2010, 12:02 AM
Anyway someone should be bringing this stuff into Oz

http://www.rothaus.de/img/02biere/01_hefe_weizen_af.jpg
Without doubt, the best beer in the world - full sized bottles and cheap!

How do you know about Rothaus ??? It was my "local" beer in Germany. It is good stuff - but there are a LOT of good beers in Germany.

It is the only state (govt) owned brewery in Germany.

Hardchina
21st April 2010, 12:10 AM
How do you know about Rothaus ??? It was my "local" beer in Germany. It is good stuff - but there are a LOT of good beers in Germany.

It is the only state (govt) owned brewery in Germany.


Wow, spent some time in Maulberg and Shopfeim (spelling :() with work - drank so much of that stuff and the equally good Whithaus and 100's of the various local schnapps shots. like a kid in a candy shop:D Got very little meaningful work done.......

JamesH
21st April 2010, 09:22 AM
"X2 It drives me nuts how much all these snobby little breweries think their beer is worth. Its like they charge exceptionally high prices, just to create an image - to get in with the fancy boy beer drinking crowd who think if its big $$ it must be good."

It's not what they think it's worth, it's what we think it's worth. They set the price as high as they can to sell their production; I don't know if they've done that or not.

I don't drink boutique beers to create an image, I just find they are interesting. I'll always try a boutique product when I come across them. Sometimes I like them, sometimes I don't. My love for Little Creatures was not love at first taste so I understand people who don't like it.

I enjoy the mass produced Euro pilsners as well but I just won't tolerate mass produced Aussie beer (unless I'm really thirsty).

Bigbjorn
21st April 2010, 09:30 AM
[quote=Brian Hjelm;1233933][QUOTE=Spenboyd;1233885] any of the Little Creatures offerings

locally owned and brewed about 2 kms from my house and just plain better. As a relatively committed home brewer I will always support the people who actually put in and are passionate about what they produce as opposed to the wonders of modern chemistry knocked out by the multinationals

I might consider some of the local "boutique" beers when they are as good as Carlsberg Elefant, Tuborg Paskebryg, Fakse Fadol, Schwelmer Pils, Kozel, and are no more expensive.

I agree with the comment in this thread that the "boutique" beers are aimed at the free-spending youth market in the over-priced pretentious yuppie pubs and the late night club scene. Quality and taste are a secondary consideration to image and market position.

The best local small brewery product I have tried is Moonshine Brewery Scotch Ale 8.3%. It is a very good drop, if expensive. Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too. Once again, they are expensive. Most of the others that I have tried, I would not bother buying again. To me they were either pretty ordinary or had an "odd" or "peculiar" taste and overpriced. Much like a lot of poor to ordinary home brews.

Psimpson7
21st April 2010, 09:36 AM
I like Pepperjack too. That's a nice beer.

Dont mind Little Creatures either but it is spendy. And since I spilt diesel on a carton by mistake I have gone off it a bit

Kronenburg 1664 would be my choice for my preffered beer

Redback
21st April 2010, 10:35 AM
I'm surprised knowones mentioned James Squire, I think they are a nice range of beers, on par with Coopers Vintage, also the Lord Nelson at the Rocks in Sydney makes a nice drop too, they now bottle, Redback is a nice drop as well, Dogbolter, although quite expensive.

Boags is probably the best of the larger brewary beers.

Baz.

Bigbjorn
21st April 2010, 11:05 AM
Well, I consider James Squire are now high volume mainstream products like Coopers.

Coopers and James Squire are probably the best volume production beers in Oz to my taste.

Few of the lesser products are available in the more remote areas. I have asked for Coopers and others in outback pubs and got either a blank stare and a "what's that" or a "nobody out here buys that stuff so I don't stock it".

One Western Queensland publican told me that nearly every time he allowed a rep to talk him into taking some of the "boutique" beers he ended up drinking it himself.

BMKal
21st April 2010, 12:01 PM
Fortunately in Kalgoorlie with the number of pubs and bottle shops we have here, there's a fair bit of competition and we have a pretty good choice to sample.

My personal favourites are Boags Premium and Rogers (a Little Creatures dark beer). I agree with others' comments on Crown - bogan's "high class" beer. Though recently on a minesite where the choice was somewhat limited, I found Crown Gold to be not a bad drop.

I'm another who doesn't mind some of the Little Creatures products (though not all of them). Until recently, I had a flat in Fremantle less than 5 minutes walk from their brewery. As well as producing some good beers, it's also not a bad place to go for a feed - but that's a bit of a local secret.

As for the better known "mass produced" Australian beers - no thanks. There's a reason why more Fosters is sold overseas than in Australia. :twisted:

And anyone who thinks that they know how to brew beer in Queensland - well all that I can say is that I tried "Powers" - once. :wasntme:

isuzurover
21st April 2010, 12:14 PM
Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too.

For someone who has previously claimed that the only drinkable beer in OZ comes from QLD, and that boutique beers are for yuppies, you seem to drink a lot of low volume/boutique beers from other states. (coopers and boags are much lower volume than the main brew in each of the mainland states).

In Germany, there isn't much difference in the price of beer. It varies between maybe e10 and e15 for a case (10L). Including mist microbrewery beers. That would mean that boutique/low volume beers wouldn't be more than $45-50 a carton.

The difference in Germany though, is that most beers aren't sold outside a 100km radius of where they are brewed.

stevo68
21st April 2010, 04:15 PM
[quote=Spenboyd;1234040][quote=Brian Hjelm;1233933]

I might consider some of the local "boutique" beers when they are as good as Carlsberg Elefant, Tuborg Paskebryg, Fakse Fadol, Schwelmer Pils, Kozel, and are no more expensive.

I agree with the comment in this thread that the "boutique" beers are aimed at the free-spending youth market in the over-priced pretentious yuppie pubs and the late night club scene. Quality and taste are a secondary consideration to image and market position.

The best local small brewery product I have tried is Moonshine Brewery Scotch Ale 8.3%. It is a very good drop, if expensive. Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too. Once again, they are expensive. Most of the others that I have tried, I would not bother buying again. To me they were either pretty ordinary or had an "odd" or "peculiar" taste and overpriced. Much like a lot of poor to ordinary home brews. Whoo hoo..Im a free spending youth hanging at yuppie pubs and night clubs........................hang a tick......Im a fat dad with 5 kids watching a dvd on a friday night :D.

I like boutique beers....bit like buying meat from woolies or meat from the butcher where the beef is local. Of course it is going to be more exxy.......its a volume thing. Volume of anything is not going to be the same as a niche product. Think again...Macca's versus fine dining. My volume beer of choice is Stella's. I also drink Beezneez, Red Back, Hoegaden and a range of other beers. Always fun to try different ones. We have a local brewery here that brews a cracking Heferweizen.

Time to crack a coldy,

Regards

Stevo

JamesH
21st April 2010, 04:45 PM
I don't know why young people who want to go somewhere nice and drink something decent are getting a hard time here.

I'd be really surpised if a boutique brewery got started up borrowing millions on refurbishment etc with the mission of make a fancy place where we rip off pretentious people. Give people some credit for sincerity.

I'm not young and I'm too old to worry about an image but if I walk in to a city pub and don't see wide choice of beers on tap, particularly craft beers from the local area, I know I'm walking into an establishment run by people who don't take what they do as seriously as I want them to.

ramblingboy42
21st April 2010, 06:23 PM
australias highest awarded top shelf beer happens to be Coopers Sparkling Ale....correct me if I'm wrong, then call Glenn Cooper and tell him. It certainly isnt Crown Lager.....good grief.....

dullbird
21st April 2010, 06:24 PM
wow can't believe this has gone on to the third page must be a record Muddymech!!

isuzurover
21st April 2010, 06:49 PM
I don't know why young people who want to go somewhere nice and drink something decent are getting a hard time here.

I'd be really surpised if a boutique brewery got started up borrowing millions on refurbishment etc with the mission of make a fancy place where we rip off pretentious people. Give people some credit for sincerity.

I'm not young and I'm too old to worry about an image but if I walk in to a city pub and don't see wide choice of beers on tap, particularly craft beers from the local area, I know I'm walking into an establishment run by people who don't take what they do as seriously as I want them to.

Don't worry it is just Brian being his usual grumpy old self.

I get the impression Brian was once a rough, tough, member of the working classes who could break the top off a tallie of XXXX and skull it in one go, straining the glass with his teeth.

He is now a crusty old conservative who sits at home watching his property investments and managed funds grow while sipping boutique beer. But he likes to play the internet QLD yobbo on here as it makes him feel less of a class traitor.

(just kidding Brian ;) )

JamesH
21st April 2010, 06:58 PM
Don't worry it is just Brian being his usual grumpy old self.

I get the impression Brian was once a rough, tough, member of the working classes who could break the top off a tallie of XXXX and skull it in one go, straining the glass with his teeth.

He is now a crusty old conservative who sits at home watching his property investments and managed funds grow while sipping boutique beer. But he likes to play the internet QLD yobbo on here as it makes him feel less of a class traitor.

(just kidding Brian ;) )

Ahh, if that's what he's doing then good luck to him, it's sounds just what I'd like to be doing. :-)

Dig deep into our pysches and you'll find we all want Rangies. Ha Ha.

Spenboyd
22nd April 2010, 01:39 PM
Rangies are nice but I want a Defender, I miss my County terribly and now they have taken my manual Disco off me and I have an auto it is almost too much to bear.
Thankfully I can drown my sorrows in an ocean of 'boutique' beer, one appreciative mouthful at a time.

VladTepes
22nd April 2010, 03:18 PM
Seriously there's a lot of drivel on this thread.

Real beer people know that if you want a PROPER drink you drink Guinness (http://www.guinness.com/)