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RichardK
20th April 2010, 07:43 PM
Got my new EMS map from BBS this morning, very fast service seeing as I only ordered it on Sunday.

Was it difficult to load?? No, it was dead easy, I just followed the procedure through the flash file loader and Vehicl Exporer software during my lunch break, (couldn't wait!) took about 5 minutes and was finished. I hadn't looked at the procedure prior to this so it was so easy. After the mandatory 2 operations of the ignition key I had grandpa nap for 30 minutes and started it up, no problems, goes like a rocket now!

Acceleration is close to instantaneous, the torque has improved markedly which makes the D3 very fast off the mark, (I use the torque not the accelerator pedal), turbo lag is there but very little compared to before and my economy has bettered by around 3.5 MPG although it is early days yet.

All in all a I am very happy with the result:D:D:D

Jamo
20th April 2010, 07:52 PM
Excellent!:thumbsup:

trobbo
20th April 2010, 09:21 PM
good to hear - i'm ordering one in a couple of days

Disco4SE
21st April 2010, 04:45 AM
How would this effect your warranty and do you have any power / torque gain figures? How much did it cost and where did you get it from? I had Ritter in Melbourne do a re-map on my 2008 D3 and the improvement was great. Just didnt let ULR Landrover know. I now have the 3.0Lt D4 and dont think that it needs it............for the moment. Maybe down the track when I feel like adding something extra to it.

RichardK
21st April 2010, 07:24 AM
The beauty of the BBS system is that I can reflash my ECU with the original map and flash the upgrade whenever I want with the Faultmate.
Cost was just under $600, power up about 30Kw and torque up about 88 kN.

Bought from Backbox Solutions for my Fautmate diagnostic system

Disomania
22nd April 2010, 06:57 AM
How did you measure the mpg increase? Are you trusting the on board computer or doing the math manualy?

RichardK
23rd April 2010, 04:58 PM
At the moment just the On Board Computer, when I next fill the tank I will get a more accurate reading.

discojools
24th April 2010, 01:43 PM
RichardK,
Whic Faultmate do you have ? Did you order from the UK or get while over there? Interested in getting one for my 05D3. Is it really usefull?

RichardK
24th April 2010, 02:18 PM
I've got the Faultmate MSV2 extreme, my opinion is it is the best for me as it has stand alone mode for fault clearing.
I got it from BBS (which are now in Cyprus) through the internet.

I am finding it more and more useful as they update the software, there is not much it can't do that I need. For the remote traveling we do at times I expect it to be very valuable

Disco4SE
24th April 2010, 07:09 PM
Hi RichardK, do you have a D4 or D3?

RichardK
24th April 2010, 10:32 PM
Hi RichardK, do you have a D4 or D3?

I have a D3

gghaggis
25th April 2010, 12:21 PM
Disco4SE,

Look at the Omnitec Hawkeye for the D4 (from Bearmach). I might have a spare one in a month or so - got it over for a demo at the upcoming Perth 4x4 show, but won't need it after that - already got one.

Cheers,

Gordon

Disco4SE
25th April 2010, 03:45 PM
gghaggis, can you tell me a bit more about it?

gghaggis
26th April 2010, 12:00 PM
gghaggis, can you tell me a bit more about it?

The user manual can be downloaded from:

Bearmach Limited - The UK's largest Supplier of Land Rover Parts and Accessories (http://www.bearmach.com/downloads.html)

The new unit has extended coverage to most (if not all) of the modules on the car - the older units only covered ECM, EAS and ABS. You get one unlock code with the unit which covers _all_ cars of that model (eg, all D4's, or all D3's etc).

Cheers,

Gordon

Disco4SE
26th April 2010, 06:42 PM
Hi gghaggis, excuse me for sounding dumb, but is this module mainly for performance enhancing or fixing faults? Also, how would it go with my warranty?

gghaggis
27th April 2010, 08:58 AM
The Hawkeye is a diagnostic tool for reading and clearing fault codes. It can also re-program a few of the car settings and read dynamic data. It does not have any warranty implications.

Cheers,

Gordon

furrydog
7th June 2010, 08:15 AM
I have been reading this topic with some interest. You imply that you can remap your ECU with this device, I thought great I have to look into this. I been to Blackbox Solutions web site but cannot find a mention of remapping the ECU. Can you tell me where did you get your setting from, the cost and how effected where they?

RichardK
7th June 2010, 09:49 AM
I have been reading this topic with some interest. You imply that you can remap your ECU with this device, I thought great I have to look into this. I been to Blackbox Solutions web site but cannot find a mention of remapping the ECU. Can you tell me where did you get your setting from, the cost and how effected where they?

The Faultmate MSV2 when used with the Vehicle Explorer software, which comes as part of the unit, through a PC, has a program in it called Performance Flash File Loader, new maps are available through the BBS at the shop http://https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/ (http://https//blackbox-solutions.com/shop/) and click on accessories you will find the maps on the list with a brief explanation. Cost is shown on the site.

TDV6
7th June 2010, 01:49 PM
If you order an MSV2 extreme, please check your PC for a RS232 male plug, I didn't and am now waiting for the postman yet again.

The RS232 is a small 9 pin "D" socket approx 10 by 20mm.

Ryall

RichardK
7th June 2010, 03:27 PM
I use a USB to RS232 converter lead

Tombie
7th June 2010, 04:05 PM
I use a USB to RS232 converter lead

Just be careful, some don't perform adequately or cause glitches.

RichardK
7th June 2010, 10:14 PM
If I recollect right I got mine with my Faultmate, that way BBS supply the lead so if anything happens due to the lead.............................

Nothing bad happened

Looked identical to commercially available leads.

furrydog
24th June 2010, 01:17 PM
I had a plug-in type performance chip while it might have improved the performance; I noticed that under hard acceleration and acceleration when towing black bellowed from the back of my vehicle.
With the BBS remapping have you notice any increase of exhaust smoke, rise of fuel usage or any cons at all?

CaverD3
24th June 2010, 06:09 PM
I had a plug-in type performance chip while it might have improved the performance; I noticed that under hard acceleration and acceleration when towing black bellowed from the back of my vehicle.


Like the LC200 I was behind the other day. Black smoke everywhere.:o

furrydog
26th June 2010, 08:31 AM
Mine was 2002 Hilux

Neil P
26th June 2010, 09:07 AM
Like the LC200 I was behind the other day. Black smoke everywhere.:o

I wonder if this is a "fuel boost without turbo boost" to spare the
engine an unacceptable increase in cylinder pressure . The LC200 engine's
size really could produce 900 NM , if the design could handle it , which
I don't think it can.

CaverD3
26th June 2010, 09:38 AM
That is what I thought as the engine is not allowed to produce the full torque until third or fourth gear.
Maybe Toyota have done a new map to stop them failing. :angel:
Goes to show how poor and industrial Jap diesels are compared to european ones.

Hpe LR sort the turbo problems though as they seem to be an issue.

Graeme
26th June 2010, 10:50 AM
Hpe LR sort the turbo problems though as they seem to be an issue.
My 3.0 blew clouds of white smoke then had little power recently when I pulled out in front of traffic doing 100 kph. I don't know if I lifted off due to no need to accelerate so quickly, as I sometimes do, but the gbox shifted up a few gears and my pushing the accelerator down to try to get some speed up didn't achieve much. At least it eventually recovered without a restart.

Duck's Guts
30th June 2010, 05:11 PM
Got my new EMS map from BBS this morning, very fast service seeing as I only ordered it on Sunday.

Was it difficult to load?? No, it was dead easy, I just followed the procedure through the flash file loader and Vehicl Exporer software during my lunch break, (couldn't wait!) took about 5 minutes and was finished. I hadn't looked at the procedure ....

RichardK,

I had a look at the BBS website.
Am I right in saying that you purchased the "Faultmate MSV-2 Single Vehicle System Kit for Discovery 3 / LR3 full capability with EXTREME Vehicle Server" code "SV222" for approx AUD$1500. And also purchased the "Custom TDV6 EMS Flash File" code CM001 approx AUD$600?
Thanks for any detail you could provide...

RichardK
30th June 2010, 08:41 PM
Yes, that is the kit,bear in mind that the Faultmate will do so much more than load the CM001 performance file.
Great bit of kit for long remote trips although I haven't had to use it yet (touchwood) with both D3's I've had.

According to the shop you will get all that is necessary to run it.

Let me know if I can help with any information although my knowledge is nowhere as good as others

Duck's Guts
21st July 2010, 04:58 AM
RichardK,

Can you provide an update on how the ECU remap is going?
For example, have you notice any increase in exhaust smoke during hard acceleration, change in fuel usage, transmission gear change differences, or any other pros/cons at all.

Thanks,
Marc...

RichardK
21st July 2010, 08:41 PM
ECU map is great, once the map is on the ECU it doesn't go wrong.

Exhaust smoke under hard acceleration is a lot more than standard but that's to be expected, gear changes I haven't noticed, MPG is a little better by about 1k/litre. No cons all pros, I love it.

Cheers

RichardK