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AnD3rew
21st April 2010, 03:33 PM
My BIL picked up a 2nd hand helicopter battery from a mate in the aviation business and stuck it in his Hilux as a replacement for the standard battery.
 
He reckons they have heaps more cranking power than standard,  last about 7 years and are a deep cycle style battery that will run a fridge without a dual kit for about 3 days and still have anough grunt to start your car reliably.
 
Anyone else here every heard of such a thing and can you think of any drawbacks.
 
The BIL has been running this for about a year now and has had no issues.
VladTepes
21st April 2010, 03:45 PM
Never heard of it being done before.
Where's harry ? He might be able to enlighten us on this one, sie he does tech stuff in teh industry.
isuzurover
21st April 2010, 03:49 PM
Is it 12V or 24V???
All these are 24V:
Concorde Battery - AGM Aircraft Batteries (http://www.concordebattery.com/main_batteries.php)
Ah ratings are no higher than an N70.
Disco4SE
21st April 2010, 03:51 PM
I know the D4's fly, but a helicopter battery?????????????
AnD3rew
21st April 2010, 04:05 PM
Is it 12V or 24V???
 
All these are 24V:
Concorde Battery - AGM Aircraft Batteries (http://www.concordebattery.com/main_batteries.php)
 
Ah ratings are no higher than an N70.
 
Apparently 12v.   Cant remember the brand name now but will try to find out.
AnD3rew
21st April 2010, 04:10 PM
apparently it is these, doesnt say it is specifically for aviation use, but apparently they do use them in choppers.
 
 
http://www.odysseyfactory.com/index.html
 
Seems I answered my own questions because they do make them for automotive applications.
mowog
21st April 2010, 05:37 PM
If its a true aircraft battery it will be 24v. 
You need to be very careful with them if they are not charged or regulated correctly they can have whats called a thermal runaway. The end result of that isn't pretty. 
Aircraft charging systems are far more sophisticated than automotive systems.
bbyer
22nd April 2010, 12:11 PM
What is an "aircraft" battery depends upon the airplane.
 
Older light aircraft have nominal 12VDC systems; newer (seventies) small planes are more often than not, 24VDC, and helicopters, well there are very few old helicopters, (and even fewer old helicopter pilots). This may however help to explain where the referenced 12VDC battery was sourced.
 
With aircraft, weight is a primary consideration. More weight, less fuel or payload, hence aircraft batteries tend to be mechanically weak both internally and externally, and performance oriented, rather than designed with abuse in mind.
 
Aircraft batteries in very new light aircraft and helicopters could be some sort of Gel or AGM as opposed to Wet - that is having battery caps. In fact if the battery does have battery caps, the caps should be different than what you are used to seeing on a car - that is the caps are vented, but non spill. This means that battery acid is not supposed to leak out when the aircraft is inverted. As such, the cap is probably a good inch or so high, and that can be a clearance or breakage problem in itself.
 
Gel batteries are desireable in a plane if the electrical system will accept them as they normally do not gas nor leak, both real advantages when the batteries are located rearward for weight and balance reasons.
 
Gassing batteries seem to find control cables to corrode and leaking batteries let the sun shine in.
 
Jets and jet props etc use totally different batteries than would ever work in a car by the way - well maybe the hybrids.
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