Series 3 109 Sliders/sills

[banjo]

Well i got asked to do some of these they are same as whats on my rover.
But these ones will have bolt on brackets to the chassis , mine are welded to the chassis & then bolted to the brackets..
So i started today i didn't get to much done as i started late bout lunchtime..
TODAYS PROGRESS....

Cut to length with the 45 angle cut.

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Pipe bent & cut to length..

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WELDED end caps on..

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All done in dura gal..
Thats all i got done today..

[Landy Smurf]

just wondering what do you use to bend the pipe

[banjo]

Hey Tony in the first & second pics if you look just under the front tyre of my car the red thing..
Its a 12t hydralic pipe benders , they come with different size dies i think i have about 6 i think from 1/2'' to just under 3''.. they work good just need some practise..Do you want to borrow them there fun as long as you dont try to bend pipe to far as it can still kink..

[Landy Smurf]

thanks for the offer but we have a set as well i was just wondering if thats what you were using,thats what we use to make our gates they work a treat

[Sleepy]

Wow, nice work Jason. They look very professional. Is welding them to the chassis the best way or, as you said earlier, should crush tubes be added to the chassis first?

[banjo]

I prefer to weld them they are stronger but saying that bolting is ok with crush tubes for the rear bracket & they would be better welded in so not sure how use will get on with that as its not an open outrigger like the one in front of that one.. Theres only 1 bolt in the front & its strong enough as i can lift the side of the car at the front using the sliders.There will be between 5 & 7 bolts. i also use the bolts & body steadies that hold the body 1 on the front & 1 on the rear. The little bit of gal steal that goes from the footwell to the edge on the bottom of the front gaurd the other one is on the rear spring outrigger to the bottom edge of the side panal just infront of the rear wheelarch..

[banjo]

Wow, nice work Jason. They look very professional. Is welding them to the chassis the best way or, as you said earlier, should crush tubes be added to the chassis first?

I'll send an old welder down with yours you can learn a new skill :angel:.

[banjo]

Ok got a little more done today.
Made the reses for the baulkhead legs & welded the pipes on..

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Also got the pipe serports on one side welded in & cleaned up..

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Getting a little sunburnt having to work out in the open, can't wait till i get a garage built..Mite do some more tomorrow afternoon when it cools a bit gettin to hot & burnt..

[Landy Smurf]

i know how you feel

[Sleepy]

nice work! - you need a cap:angel:;)

[banjo]

Well no welding today it gunna bloody rain.Stinking hot yesterday now its going to rain..

[banjo]

Well i got some more done today the pipes are all welded up & all pipe surports are welded on just need to give a little clean up on some of the welds. Will start to do the brackets tomorrow so if i'm lucky they should be all done hopefully by the end of the week if i'm lucky..( no picy's today).

[banjo]

OK got all the plate cut for the brackets today. A few more mesurements & drill some bolt hole a bit of welding & they will be ready for the paint.. no pics again but i will take some tomorrow if it doesn't rain & i can get everything out & started on all the above...:cool:;)

[banjo]

Well i got all rails & pipes done just need a little clean, just need to weld on the brackets..

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Made the rear brackets & drilled the pilot holes, They just need a trim & holes inlarged. & weld the plate to the sliders which they bolt to..
Front ones are made just need to weld them on..


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Hopefully all the welding & clean up will be done tomorrow then can start to paint them, 3 coats of black gloss rust gaurd..

[banjo]

OH & i got the grip tape cut..

[banjo]

Well just have to clean & trim the brackets for the rear.

Front brackets welded on just need clean..

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Rear Brackets welded on.

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Just need to cut the chassis brackets to shape drill out the holes & all done ready to paint...

[Landy Smurf]

looking good

[Sleepy]

noice job:cool:

[banjo]

Well got a bit done today all the brackets are trimed & cleaned..

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All the holes are drilled in the brackets & on the brackets on the rails..

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Just need to fit 4 captive nuts on each pair on top of the rails for the body brackets & then I can Paint them all & they will be finished..
Ordered all the bolts on friday so can pik them up tomorrow....

[matbor]

Looking good, one for me :D?!

[Landy Smurf]

doing well how much more do you have to go

[banjo]

Just have to do the captive nuts & paint them :D .

Should be painting them tomorrow :cool: the easy bit...

[banjo]

WHOOO HOOOO

Well done them they all got there first coat of paint ..
Epoxy paint is soooo good i feel so light headed & great....

Brackets

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Now the rails

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OK now be brutaly honest are they of sellable quality...
All critisimns welcome...

[matbor]

Looking good, just one question, bit hard to tell in the photo, but what is the ding that I have circled ? is it just the light !

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Matt.

[BigJon]

It looks like slight tube crush from the bender.... but I could be wrong.

[Landy Smurf]

yeah its just where the tube crushes when bent

[Landy Smurf]

looks good jason i like how you used the clothes line

[banjo]

Looking good, just one question, bit hard to tell in the photo, but what is the ding that I have circled ? is it just the light !

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Matt.

Yeah thats where the pipe bender goes , It pushes the pipe onto 2 rollers one on each side of the bend can't do anything about it , Unless you buy one of those super duper fandangle benders that costs $$$$$ ....

[matbor]

Yeah thats where the pipe bender goes , It pushes the pipe onto 2 rollers one on each side of the bend can't do anything about it , Unless you buy one of those super duper fandangle benders that costs $$$$$ ....

thats cool... thx

[Sleepy]

Nice work Jason:cool:

[LandyAndy]

Nice work Jason.
To reduce that ding,try a sacrificial bit of half tube the next dia up,simply lay it over where the pin hits ;););););););)
You have done well:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[subasurf]

OK now be brutaly honest are they of sellable quality...
All critisimns welcome..

To be honest, if anything, the kink in the bend would be the only thing I think that would be an issue if trying to actually sell them. Personally it doesn't bother me, I think they look absolutely fantastic, but some people may question the bend simply because they don't understand the physics (for lack of a better word) of bending tubes....without a VERY expensive machine.

However, if you got a metal fabricator with the right machine to knock out a crap load of bent pipes for you, and you did the rest, you could be onto a winner. :)

Out of curiosity, how much do they weight, as a set? Just thinking in terms of postage costs if you were to flog them off on eBay or what ever.

[banjo]

To be honest, if anything, the kink in the bend would be the only thing I think that would be an issue if trying to actually sell them. Personally it doesn't bother me, I think they look absolutely fantastic, but some people may question the bend simply because they don't understand the physics (for lack of a better word) of bending tubes....without a VERY expensive machine.

However, if you got a metal fabricator with the right machine to knock out a crap load of bent pipes for you, and you did the rest, you could be onto a winner. :)

Out of curiosity, how much do they weight, as a set? Just thinking in terms of postage costs if you were to flog them off on eBay or what ever.

Not sure what they weigh but they are heavy , was going to put a pair together & weigh them when all finished..

[banjo]

[QUOTE=subasurf;1243623]To be honest, if anything, the kink in the bend would be the only thing I think that would be an issue if trying to actually sell them. [QUOTE]

Now i'm worried about trying to sell them now..:(

[subasurf]

[QUOTE=subasurf;1243623]To be honest, if anything, the kink in the bend would be the only thing I think that would be an issue if trying to actually sell them. [QUOTE]

Now i'm worried about trying to sell them now..:(

haha sorry :p

[Ausfree]

Banj, if priced correctly you should be able to sell them, and as you gain experience and the product "presents" better increase your prices!!:)

[banjo]

OK all done got the bolts in the brackets.
Got the last coat of paint on & dried..
Got the grip tape on & the bolts in the rails..

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WELL ???????????

[matbor]

[QUOTE=subasurf;1243623]To be honest, if anything, the kink in the bend would be the only thing I think that would be an issue if trying to actually sell them. [QUOTE]

Now i'm worried about trying to sell them now..:(

Wouldn't worry about that... just pm me with a $$ when done and if you can weigh and measure them too so I can work out freight to melbourne.

thx

[banjo]

Ok went & weighed the sliders . One pair with brackets & bolts & it came to 25kgs Thats on an old set of bathroom scales..
They are about 1.9m long actualy they are a few cetermeteres under.
About 8'' wide 2 together.
& they are about 3'' high.



OOPS i was serposed to PM ..Wrong box.

[agrojnr]

Try www.e-go.com.au (http://www.e-go.com.au) for transport there very good

Adam

[Mick_Marsh]

Matbor,

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/aulro-courier-service/103881-melbourne-canberra-melbourne.html

Any help?

Banjo,
is there any problem in getting those rock sliders to Canberra?

regards
Mick

[matbor]

Matbor,

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/aulro-courier-service/103881-melbourne-canberra-melbourne.html

Any help?

Banjo,
is there any problem in getting those rock sliders to Canberra?

regards
Mick

:burnrubber: would be... will depend on banjo's price though for the sliders ;)

[banjo]

I will post in the AULRO courier see if someone is going from here to there or coming through here to canberra..As i don't go out ..Battery in puter is about to die will post in the morning..

[HBWC]

they look sweet mate hope andys turn out like that when he starts

[banjo]

OK i just sent bcr2734(truck driver) a pm to see if he goes down as far as Canberra & to ask if he mite be able to pickup the sliders to Canberra...

[horaceOz]

Hi Banjo

would you be able to post some pics on how these mount?
I am thinking of making some myself and would like to know where they mount

Also do you need to cut off the mounting brackets for the aluminium panel the sliders replace?

cheers

Mark

[Dave Haskins]

Hey Banjo,
Did you end up making these to sell? Could you make them up for a SWB?How much? Have you got any pics of them installed?
Dave

[debruiser]

Yeah thats where the pipe bender goes , It pushes the pipe onto 2 rollers one on each side of the bend can't do anything about it , Unless you buy one of those super duper fandangle benders that costs $$$$$ ....


pack your pipe with sand short sort that ding out.....

[SGT.JOE]

Yes we need to see how they fit up to the Land Rover mate? Don't leave us hanging....

[De Ranged]

Nice work, This is pretty much exactly what I was planing for my 109"

A couple of tips for you or anyone who wants to use one of these chinese pipe kinkers... I use one to do everything from bars, roll cages to custom "U" bolts

First off on your two rollers, they are kinking your pipe due to high pressure on a small contact point.... burn some weld either side of the contact point and grind and flap it smooth, turn them into rub blocks

Your dies need a bit of work if it is like mine the castings weren't strong enough or tight enough fitting so as you push for a bigger bend they allow the pipe to spread out at the center of the bend and your bend collapses or kinks.... this was an issue on my dies from Nom 32 up to beat this I clamped the dies in a big vice as tight as I could this closed them up a bit and then welded some scrap off cuts of 6-10mm plate on the bottom of them so they reinforced the die then I spent a free day with a bit of offcut pipe and the flapdisk polishing the inside of the die so the pipe fitted nice and snug
Since then I've never had a bend fail scrutineering for competition

Contrary to what everyone says you can bend tube in these benders, what you need to do is make a sock that fits into the die out of a piece of pipe... I think for the 25mm tube I used a bit of either sch80 Nom 25 or Nom 25 heavy wall... bend it in the die and then cut the bend in half so it leaves you a sock that fits inside the die... with this trick I have bent 25mm tube to 90degrees without any collapse
To find your size of pipe to make a sock you want it to be a bit of a force fit to fit the tube inside (remember you have a seam on some pipe and this will bugger it up a bit, also your dies and rollers need to be done or you kink the tube)

Hope this helps out