NEW ARB BULLBAR FOR DEFENDER (NEW DESIGN) [Archive]

Loubrey

24th April 2010, 11:47 AM

I have to agree with Dullbird. There is something odd about it. ARB has this thing about approach angle improvement, mostly because majoroty of the jap jobs suffer from poor approach angles, hence the severe angling on the bottom of that BB. My personal opinion is that the angle is too sharp to complement the Defenders frontal looks, but then I suppose that is just personal preference.

That said, I still need to decide on a BB for mine as well. The Front Runner from Opposite Lock looks quite good, but the centre cross bar appears to come up very high. Any views? The other one I looked at is the TJM which appears very close to the older style ARB?

Didn't intend to highjack the tread, but those 3 Bull Bars appear to be the only ones available and I'm not sure whether the new ARB one looks right.

stig0000

24th April 2010, 11:52 AM

im sure you still could get the normal arb bar,,,

lambrover

24th April 2010, 04:05 PM

I like the tube style bars, for me if ARB are working hard to keep approach angles the best they can then they should be complemented for it, why have a bar that reduces it? sure the defender is good from standard but why wreck it by fitting the wrong bar.

geckos

24th April 2010, 04:22 PM

yes you can cause they say this one fits from a certain year on though

Allan

24th April 2010, 04:42 PM

They still have those horrible orange lights. I agree with Dullbird looks a bit odd.

Allan

BigJon

24th April 2010, 04:55 PM

lambrover

24th April 2010, 05:47 PM

I am not too worried about the lights, it should protect the radiator though.

there are alot of defers out there with ARB and TJM bars, I wanted somthing a little different. and it was cheaper, I bought the bar with out the top hoop and I paid 850 forit from Rovacraft in Sydney, once fitted I made the top hoop up out of stuff lying around.

solmanic

24th April 2010, 10:23 PM

im sure you still could get the normal arb bar,,,

Well, I think I may have gotten the last one in Brisbane a couple of weeks ago. They will probably be running the old style ones out so I would hurry if you really prefer that style.

samuelclarke

25th April 2010, 07:33 AM

Good to see ARB finally doing new stuff for the Defender. :thumbsup:

I'll reserve judgement on the new design till I see it in the flesh...but IMO, on a stock Defender it looks a bit overkill, however I reckon with a suspension lift and bigger mud tyres it would fit in.

Sleepy

25th April 2010, 09:12 AM

Yes, I wonder how much? 2 grand? more?
Like the recovery point with hi-lift "hole".
I am with lanbrover though - my original Land Rover bullbar (ARB copy) is a heavy old thing, the tube style seem a lot lighter and shoulld give enough protection to save the oily bits. Yes you can still take out the wing/headlight but should be able to limp home.
I guess it depends where you do most of your driving. If you drive daily in the bush at sunset then the bigger bar is probably worth it.

SVX37

25th April 2010, 09:18 AM

I reckon it will fit the SVX Kenleyfred......but..........apart from the upswept wings on the side, it looks the same as the old one with the bar removed on each side for the driving lights like some members have modified.

It sounds like mosy of us agree, the new one looks odd. I think it is because the bullbar looks more modern the the vehicle:p:p

I am going to go with this one from Rovacraft.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

It may not have as much protection all round, but it is lighter. I think they look great on the Defender.

If an animal strike occurs, it should keep me going as well as any other bullbar would as it will protect the radiator.

Let's hope none of us have that happen to our Fenders.

JDNSW

25th April 2010, 09:32 AM

I can't say the looks of the new bar enthuse me, but it looks as if it should protect the front of the vehicle, which after all is what it is intended to do.

Note that they say it fits all models from 1985 on.

John

kenleyfred

25th April 2010, 10:25 AM

I reckon it will fit the SVX Kenleyfred......but..........apart from the upswept wings on the side, it looks the same as the old one with the bar removed on each side for the driving lights like some members have modified.

It sounds like mosy of us agree, the new one looks odd. I think it is because the bullbar looks more modern the the vehicle:p:p .....

I am going to go with this one from Rovacraft.....

http://www.rovacraft.com.au/uploads/ms19098.jpg

It may not have as much protection all round, but it is lighter. I think they look great on the Defender.

If an animal strike occurs, it should keep me going as well as any other bullbar would as it will protect the radiator.

Let's hope none of us have that happen to our Fenders.

That one also looks good. I do like the ARB bar, the new one I will wait to see how it looks in the flesh before committing to it. To me the ideal bar is the old bar modified for the SVX. But from what I have been told, a modified bar will void insurance.
Kenley

KarlB

25th April 2010, 10:59 AM

There seems to be some what of a consensus that the new ARB bull bar will cost about $2K. No doubt more if you get ARB to fit it. There is also some what of a consensus that the critical area to protect is the radiator. Why not consider just getting an OEM A-bar? Much cheaper (less than $1300 fitted), much lighter, and should more than adequately protect the radiator. No insurance issues and no possible impact on your warranty (if your vehicle is still under warranty).

Loubrey

25th April 2010, 11:02 AM

I had the tubular affair on my last 90 in the UK ('98 County). I also had a bit of a lift and it looked quite ok if I have to say so myself. The bar was made by Scorpion Racing and the trialing guys swear by them. I'll look for some pictures and post. No wildlife to hit in the UK though.

I had another look at that Front Runner one from Opposite Lock and it has a more "traditional" look with the bumper section looking similar to the original Land Rover one with rounded outer edges, but obviously significantly stronger. Has anyone seen one of these in the "flesh" for advice?

Sprint

25th April 2010, 12:07 PM

i think the reason it looks strange in the pic is because the photo has been compressed from the sides

VladTepes

25th April 2010, 02:08 PM

It's for '09 models onwards only evidently ?

What happened in 09 that hadn't already happened in '07 ???

Utemad

25th April 2010, 02:17 PM

I like it. They won't sell me one though as I don't have a Defender :oops2:

VladTepes

25th April 2010, 02:32 PM

They'll sell you one if you give em money !
Why you'd want to is another question.

lambrover

25th April 2010, 05:32 PM

They'll sell you one if you give em money !
Why you'd want to is another question.

You cheeky bugger, :p

one_iota

25th April 2010, 05:44 PM

I'm bravely prepared as a contribution to science and AULRO research to have this installed on mine.....if someone here is prepared to pay for the earlier model bull bar I already have on the Fender...only driven to Church on Sundays.

I reckon it is a good thing apart from the fact that it makes the Defender look a bit Toyatatroopyish.

ARB should be commended on its effort.

4wheeler

25th April 2010, 06:41 PM

List price for new bar in Melbourne is $1298.00. This is only a few dollars more than the old bar. Fitting charge is $128.00.
A winch fitment kit for the bar costs $269.00.

The vehicle in the picture was at the Land Rover Owners' Club of Victoria FWD show at Wandin in February. To me it looked better in the flesh than in the photo that ARB have published. I did not mind the look of it and have ordered one for my 2007 Defender Puma. We'll see when it is fitted. Given 4WD club members might get a discount from ARB it is even cheaper.

miky

25th April 2010, 06:53 PM

Awaiting your pics...

Will need a bar for my new Puma (when it finally gets here) but at the moment I prefer the old bar. I think.

4wheeler

25th April 2010, 07:31 PM

This is a photo of the new bar as seen at Wandin

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SVX37

25th April 2010, 07:43 PM

Wow - that looks much different to what I commented on earlier.

From this pic, I like it.

Might investigate further, although I still like to Rovacrat product.

Gav110

25th April 2010, 08:21 PM

Looks like it's new bar season. OL have a new tubular 'comp style' bar called an 'XROX': XROX Tube Bar Patrol GQ at Opposite Lock Australia (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?next_page=product/product_detail.php&product_id=13772&category_id=581)

Has mounting points a-go-go and jacking etc. Patrol price is ~$950 (excl. fitting). Have written off to see if/when a Defender version is coming.

If not I will be going with the RovaCraft bar featured above.

samuelclarke

25th April 2010, 09:03 PM

This is a photo of the new bar as seen at Wandin

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/90-110-130-defender-county/24852d1272192274-new-arb-bullbar-defender-new-design-defender-bull-bar.jpg

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/90-110-130-defender-county/24853d1272192939-new-arb-bullbar-defender-new-design-defender-bar-2009-2.jpg

Those pics make it look a lot better! If I didn't already have a Terrafirma tubular winch bar (http://www.terrafirma4x4.com/products_php.php?cat=14&grp=116) the new ARB bar would definitely be a consideration...I was almost going to go for the old ARB bar, but it didn't give enough approach angle - this new one looks like it's an improvement. The problem is it seems to always be a tradeoff between impact protection and approach angle...

Maybe when I get a new 90 as a daily driver I can get one...well I can wish... :angel: :wasntme:

dullbird

25th April 2010, 09:53 PM

mmmmmmmm still not sure

cal415

26th April 2010, 01:05 AM

I had expected some more significant change,, its not bad but it hasnt really changed alot and im not a fan of the approach angle its an improvment but still not great, i heard they were doing something similar to the sahara bar range to suit the defenders.

pc3

27th April 2010, 10:15 AM

Will the TJM Brush bars and side step kit fit this new ARB Bar, I like it !!

VladTepes

27th April 2010, 11:03 AM

Dammit that just makes me want a 110 Dual Cab in red a lot more !
Dammit dammit dammit !

kenleyfred

27th April 2010, 06:13 PM

Geez I run hot and cold on my local ARB. Went in today to enquire if it was good for the SVX. Straight off they said no. It was designed for the Defender.

After a while they said no because the upswept wings would still foul the driving lights. They will make a phone call to see if it will fit. Also it was made for the 2009 models. Is there any difference between 2007 and now?
Kenley

4wheeler

27th April 2010, 06:47 PM

After looking at the new protection bar at the Vic. 4WD show my feeling is that it probably would foul the light cluster of the SVX. The bar wings sit higher than the previous model and were a close fit (about 20mm) from the panel on the standard vehicle. Looking at photos of the SVX in other sections of the site, the lights seem to protrude further hence might foul.

I have an 10/2007 Defender and I was informed there was no problem fitting the new bar to the 2007 model. They did say that they have built in a fair amount of adjustemnt into the bar as the Defender build tollerance is all over the shop. This might mean the bar can be mounted further forward for clearance but I could not say for sure. In literature I was given it suggests that the lower grill gets trimmed if a winch is fitted (a reinforcement plate is sold with the winch fitting kit). This might indicate that there is not that much adjustment available.

I was told today that the bar I have ordered will be available between mid to late May. When it is fitted I will post some more detailed photographs to help people decide if they like the new bar, the old bar, or the tubed bar designs of other manufacturers.

SVX37

27th April 2010, 07:19 PM

Drover

27th April 2010, 07:49 PM

ARB apparently told my local 4x4 shop (ARB authorised stockist) that it will not fit the SVX. :(, although they are making more enquiries tomorrow as to the exact cause.

From the look of the photo's it must foul the bottom edge of the driving lights, but it would be close.

Disappointing, as it is a top looking bar.

Lightweight

3rd May 2010, 09:22 AM

Its probably been asked and answered, but any chance of fitting one of these to a TD5 (2006) ??

kenleyfred

3rd May 2010, 10:25 AM

I like the look of the bar. I have approached two ARB dealers to enquire. After them not getting back to me I went back to check again. Same answer from both, but different reasons. Both say no. One because it will foul the driving lights again and the other because it will foul the front grill.
GRRRR

If any other SVX owner hears differently, please post.
Kenley

PBob

3rd May 2010, 05:18 PM

If you really want the correct answer email sales@arb.com.au to Greg Milton and he will give you the correct answer. don't rely on outlets - they don't know these things. I think the answer is yes.

kenleyfred

4th May 2010, 05:45 PM

Thank you PBob. Email sent .
Kenley

austastar

4th May 2010, 06:52 PM

ARB have an Agfest Special (http://www.arb.com.au/resources/pdf/ARB-agfest-bullbar-promo.pdf) this weekend.
Very tempted, but have some other priorities just at the moment - damn it!

cheers
http://www.arb.com.au/resources/pdf/ARB-agfest-bullbar-promo.pdf

SVX37

5th May 2010, 05:02 PM

I have also emailed ARB.

Thanks PBob!:)

Landy110

5th May 2010, 07:48 PM

One word comes to mind......fugly
A defender is NOT a hilux, which that bar seems designed to suit.

pc3

5th May 2010, 08:40 PM

I like it and have ordered one for my 130 dual cab

prith

8th May 2010, 03:26 PM

Will this fit a Defender 110 1990 CSW?

Nera Donna

10th May 2010, 10:16 AM

After looking at it again, I am definitely warming to it even more.:)

I will try to find out from my local ARB shop as well to see if it will foul the driving lights. I will let other SVX owners know what I find out.

Still have the Rovacraft Bar just ahead at the moment but I think the new ARB will grow on people IMHO.

Tried to fit the 'River craft' bar to my SVX, outside driving lights foul on the out riggers on top the bar. I know 'bugger'! Spoke to the guys at 'Northern 4x4' about the new ARB bar, they gave me the same answer for lead time (End of May), no one has said anything about the bar not fitting the SVX???????

4wheeler

22nd May 2010, 03:32 PM

I dropped in to ARB Kilsyth today to check to see when the new ARB bar that I have on order will be available. I am one of the first on the list. I was told the first bars are due around mid June at this stage according to their computer.:)

I also asked about fitting the new bar to the SVX model. I was told the new bar will not fit due to the driving lights in the SVX light cluster which would foul the bar. I think that the higher position of the bar would block the beam of the lights anyway. The sales person seemed to have good knowledge of the Land Rover Defender so it is not looking good at this stage for SVX owners wishing to fit the new bar.:(

pc3

22nd May 2010, 04:30 PM

PBob

22nd May 2010, 09:45 PM

I got one last week:D
(Will attempt to put up some pics next week after the lights go on.)

rick130

23rd May 2010, 06:30 AM

Out of curiosity, does ARB still do their fabrication work here, or is it all done offshore (China ?) these days ?

PBob

23rd May 2010, 10:13 AM

Done here.

4wheeler

23rd May 2010, 07:13 PM

Pbob,
That is interesting that you have received your new protection bar. How long ago did you order it if you don't mind me asking? I placed an order around 9-10 weeks ago.

4Wheeler

PBob

24th May 2010, 08:25 AM

About January - when I first heard that a new one was on the way. I think that the rest of the first bunch went o/seas. I nearly missed out on this one too.

dbongard

24th May 2010, 09:17 AM

Out of curiosity, does ARB still do their fabrication work here, or is it all done offshore (China ?) these days ?

No ARB bar work comes from China.
You might be thinking of 'the other guys'. ;)

-daniel
AIR LOCKER

PBob

25th May 2010, 08:29 AM

I discovered a new Puma utility in Mudgee the other day and it was fitted with the original ARB bar (new), so parked beside it and compared it to my new version. I must say that the new one really is an improvement over the earlier one. It has a much larger main bar, there is more room for lights in the centre area, it wraps around the side of the vehicle and looks a far neater and snug fit. I'll bet it is a fair bit stronger in a hit as well. Didn't have the camers with me at the time, otherwise I would have lined them up side by side for a comparison.

Tombie

25th May 2010, 09:20 AM

No ARB bar work comes from China.
You might be thinking of 'the other guys'. ;)

-daniel
AIR LOCKER

Welcome to the forum Daniel....

And whilst walking around the office say gday to Baz Slow-WOMAN for me :cool:

4wheeler

5th July 2010, 07:11 PM

Just thought I would post some photographs of the new Defender bar fited today for those who have not seen it. Doesn't look bad at all.

Sorry that the photos are a bit dark. It was getting late when I took the photos.

pc3

5th July 2010, 07:38 PM

Looks great mine is on now too. Glad I waited I really like it.

4wheeler

5th July 2010, 07:54 PM

Looks great mine is on now too. Glad I waited I really like it.
Hi PC3,
Thanks. I thought about colour matching the bar but decided it would look too white. The black looks O.K. and I can paint it if is scratch it.

Next job is finishing off the driving light wiring which is 90% done. If I did it again it would take me 1/4 of the time now that I have sussed out where to stuff everything so it looks neat and without drilling extra holes in the bulkhead. Was able to use OE entry points in the bulkhead behind the dash instrument console. The driving lights look better without the IPF covers.

Next on the must have list a snorkel and BF Goodrich muddies which I just LUUUV to bits. Never had a puncture and work well in all conditions including sand with the right pressures. Had them on my previous five 4X4's. Get good km's from them as well.

ARB Kylsith now has a 4 week wait to fit gear which is ages. Might have to try one of the other stores in Melbourne if equipment needs to be fitted sooner.

one_iota

5th July 2010, 07:59 PM

I thought about colour matching the bar...

I saw a spanking new silver Puma Defender the other day with a colour matched bar...looked pretty good...pity he didn't wave back. :mad:;)

stig0000

5th July 2010, 08:15 PM

mmm i dont no if i like it yet, it looks to toyota for me;), im sure il see one in the flesh prity soon tho on a customers car, then i will make my final, im going to be changing my front bar, but to what yet IDK;), most likly a tube bar, and custom, just trying to get idears

just out there, do the new bars cost more then the out going arb bar,?? how much:(

wesbt

5th July 2010, 08:45 PM

Would the Land Rover light guard fit with this bullbar?

carlosbeldia

5th July 2010, 09:31 PM

It's kind of Toyota style, I really don't like it

mike_ie

5th July 2010, 10:03 PM

Can't say I'm overly attracted either. With all of the edges rounded off, it doesn't seem to suit the Defender - doesn't seem to be "rugged" enough if that makes sense.

miky

5th July 2010, 11:45 PM

Not too sure I really like it either.

Didn't have a choice though since "they" couldn't source the old style bar from anywhere so it was the new one or nothing from ARB.

I have to wait till the 14th July as it is.

Will also post pics then.

Gav110

6th July 2010, 08:52 AM

My first thought was "looks like a troopy" - glad I went with the RovaCraft bar from a looks perspective, but undoubtedly ARB bar will provide more protection.

pc3

6th July 2010, 08:59 AM

My first thought was "looks like a troopy" - glad I went with the RovaCraft bar from a looks perspective, but undoubtedly ARB bar will provide more protection.

Good Protection is my first priority before looks......thats why I prefer the ARB bar over the "Pommy" ones (they do however look good, but would offer little protection if you hit a Big Red at 3.30 am in the morning). But I actually think the ARB Bar looks good.

You will undoubtadly hit a hopper when travelling late at night in the outback................my only complaint with the ARB bar is my 240 lf's sit a little proud out the front of the bar.

MinniTheMoocha

6th July 2010, 12:37 PM

The ARB bar looks better in the flesh.

I originally didn't like the look but saw it at the Melbourne meet (Jun 27 2010) on a new Defender and it impressed.

The only negative was the bar was a little close to the headlight surrounds.

4wheeler

6th July 2010, 07:05 PM

I'm with PC3 when it comes to protection for the truck. I checked out the tube style bars which do look the business but if Skippy decides to investigate intimately the front end of the Defender when it is punting along at 100 clicks per hour, I wanted a better than even chance that the Defender would win the argument. I have had ARB bars on my Hiluxes and I don't think you can beat them for engineering and quality. It might look a bit "soft" but for me it looks as though it will do the job it's designed for.

I am not sure how the bar will affect the possibility of mounting aftermarket steering guards. Haven't looked too far into it at present.

Cost wise, the new bar was only about $20.00 above the old price.

By the way, the fitters will need the OEM bumper bar mounting bolts and thread plate to mount the new style bar. I took the original bumber off before going to ARB. The first question they asked was " what have you done with the bolts?" Luckily I brought them with me in the cubby box.

PBob

7th July 2010, 10:32 AM

Wesbt,
I have fitted square headlight guards I got out from the Poms. I had to cut off the bottom cross bar up to the second bottom bar and this one sits neatly on the bumper of the bull bar. I also had to alter the top outside corners a little as they touch the top bar. I cut the corner off and angled the top bit onto the sides. It was easy, as the bars on the lights are light and easy to bend and weld.
I am hoping to put up pics, (could send you some) but am waiting to finish my current project, which is a 1969 series 11A roof onto the back of the Puma tub. (110 series dual cab HCPU). Then, at long last, my setting up of the Defer should be done!:cool:

SVX20

18th April 2011, 06:35 PM

ARB tells be that their new BB doesn't fit the SVX defender ? Is this because of the engine guard or some other reason?

Can anyone help? Are there good alternatives ?

Thanks

Drover

18th April 2011, 07:16 PM

The new ARB bar wont fit the SVX as the clearance of the bar is to close to the unique SVX head light surrounds, specially the driving lights.

There are not many other options available. I bought a new ARB old style winch bar and then cut out the lower bars so as not to obstruct the driving light and keep it legal.

I am considering replacing the modified ARB bar with a "tube bar".

As I said options are limited.

draymond

19th April 2011, 07:34 AM

At last. That looks like it should fit the SVX. Glad I've waited and not had another bar modified to suit.
Now of course to try find the cash for it.
Kenley

Kenley,

I don't think it will fit the SVX, see how high and close to the headlamp it is on the standard Defender?

Remember the SVX has the High Intensity driving lamp and about 2" of plastic trim added to the headlamp surround....

:(

kenleyfred

19th April 2011, 08:19 AM

Sadly, you're right. It doesn't fit. Do these new release Defenders have the same front end as the SVX. If so with the greater numbers somebody might engineer one.

Benz

19th April 2011, 10:04 AM

I wonder what the bar would look like on a older td5 defender.

did they change anything in the body at all in the time between 1999 and now?

ugu80

19th April 2011, 10:24 AM

Hey Benz, fitted one I got off Ebay to my 1995 model 130. Did it myself in an afternoon. They fit, no problems. The "puma" owners have to spend another $120 for an 'adaptor' for the protruding grill if fitting a winch.

Benz

19th April 2011, 10:40 AM

oh so they fit the older defenders better?

haha yeah don't think I would ever pay someone else to fit a bullbar...

unless for some crazy reason I loose my mind and buy a 4wd with a silly wrap around bumper that needs to be chopped to bits to fit one....

ugu80

19th April 2011, 10:44 AM

Don't have a 'URL' site, but if you want a photo of the finished product, IM me an email address and I'll send a photo.

SeaMist

16th September 2011, 01:18 PM

Sadly, you're right. It doesn't fit. Do these new release Defenders have the same front end as the SVX. If so with the greater numbers somebody might engineer one.

The new Special Edition Defenders have exactly the same grill/ lights setup as the SVX but the standard release has the old standard setup.
To my knowledge (as of yesterday) ARB are not planning to bring out a bar just for the SVX/ Special Edition releases.
I rang TJM and got a similar story with the guy on the phone saying their bar has the same issue (the curved extremity of bar fouling the larger light surrounds).

I guess that only leaves the Xrox bar. Or the expensive plastic Landrover bar. :(
Is this right?
Gwen

PAT303

16th September 2011, 02:59 PM

Or you could do what I've done and just buy a bar from the UK for half the price of the ARB/TJM bars sold here and they fit straight on. Pat

SeaMist

16th September 2011, 07:30 PM

Update: Opposite Lock say they have a basic full size bull bar that will fit SVX / special edition pumas. I have ordered one so time will tell. Otherwise Pat's solution sounds good. :)

SVX37

16th September 2011, 07:55 PM

Hello all SVX owners & Special Edition owners too.

I also have found a solution - at long last.

I have ordered a bar from Mulgo (aka Daniel). Exactly what I was after.

Will post a pic soon.

kenleyfred

16th September 2011, 08:27 PM

Look forward to seeing it. Still looking for one myself.

Nera Donna

17th September 2011, 06:25 AM

The new Special Edition Defenders have exactly the same grill/ lights setup as the SVX but the standard release has the old standard setup.
To my knowledge (as of yesterday) ARB are not planning to bring out a bar just for the SVX/ Special Edition releases.
I rang TJM and got a similar story with the guy on the phone saying their bar has the same issue (the curved extremity of bar fouling the larger light surrounds).

I guess that only leaves the Xrox bar. Or the expensive plastic Landrover bar. :(
Is this right?
Gwen

TJM type 13 bar does fit the SVX/Special Edition front grills and lighting cluster. But it the same problem as the old ARB bars. Obstructs the standard driving lights. See attached.
I got impatient after fitting three bar to my vehicle. This is bar #4 and the last.
Pit falls:
Drive light obstruction (Did I really have say that?)
Mounting bracket for winch solenoid box. Slight modification needed to get the solenoid box to sit in the right location. (Disassemble solenoid box, redrill mounting holes, assemble solenoid and mounting bracket, reinstall solenoid box cover)
Terminals on the back of the solenoid box foul on the grill. (Trim the terminals down some)
Note: Winch fitted TJM OX 9500 lb

Very interest to see what Daniel comes up with, even if it's a little later for me. Always like his work.

Cheers
Craig

SVX37

17th September 2011, 11:06 AM

As per my previous post, I have attached a photo of the Bull Bar that is fitted to a Special Edition Vehicle. Obviously, this will also fit the SVX models as well.

This is not my vehicle but was sent to me to show me what it will look like.

Mulgo (Daniel) informed me he will be at the Land Rover Expo in Sydney and this particular vehicle will be on display so you can view in the flesh if you are in the area.

I do not have any financial relationship with this business but merely giving a plug to a great business with excellent sevice. A person that you can trust with your vehicle!

(I have also had fitted the Ex-Box, Bumperettes, Glove Box, Seat Extension Rails and soon to be a Bull Bar.)

Nigel

Loubrey

17th September 2011, 12:30 PM

There is a host of companies supplying the tubular type bullbars if you guys are happy with the fact that they don't give any real front end protection beyond the grill. Scorpion Racing from the UK will be the Rolls Royce of tubular bars, but Rovacraft does a decent one as well. Looking at the picture from Mulgo it looks very tidy as well.

I've attached a picture of my previous 90 fitted with one of those bars and the angle shows enough space for the LRSP headlight surrounds and bumper. That particular bar was specific for a 300Tdi, but they are available for different configurations.

In the UK there is very little in terms of wild life to hit, so that wasn't a consideration on choosing the bar. If you drive rural though over here though, some more corner protection would be required imo.

Cheers,

Farry

6th March 2013, 10:38 AM

Kenley,

I don't think it will fit the SVX, see how high and close to the headlamp it is on the standard Defender?

Remember the SVX has the High Intensity driving lamp and about 2" of plastic trim added to the headlamp surround....

:(
It will fit the SVX if you space it 40mm further forward and lower it the same amount. I know ARB warns about doing this, but with some common sense & an enginnering workshop its fine. I did this on mine & its as solid as a rock, slightly lower than I would like as the indicator is slightly obscured by the top bar, but you have another on the bullbar & one on the side guard.:)

Lotz-A-Landies

6th March 2013, 11:22 AM

Previous post 17th September 2011https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/1004.jpg

Do I have to wake up now? Have been asleep for years!

Nera Donna

6th March 2013, 05:36 PM

thejonoaffair

9th April 2013, 07:21 PM

It will fit the SVX if you space it 40mm further forward and lower it the same amount. I know ARB warns about doing this, but with some common sense & an enginnering workshop its fine. I did this on mine & its as solid as a rock, slightly lower than I would like as the indicator is slightly obscured by the top bar, but you have another on the bullbar & one on the side guard.:)

That looks good Farry, about to take delivery of my new Defender and mount the bar in the same fashion....Further out and a little lower (in order to clear the headlight guards that it will be coming with).
Did you modify the mounting brackets that came with the bar or did you fabricate new ones? Some more detailed pics of the mounting point would be greatly appreciated :)

Farry

16th April 2013, 06:55 AM

Hi, no I did'nt modify the brackets (Just in case it did'nt work!) just made some spacers out of 40mm square thick walled (6mm) box tubing and 40mm longer stainless cap screws.
I'll get the camera out & give you more details next weekend.:)

thejonoaffair

16th April 2013, 05:37 PM

Thanks Farry!

Looking forward to see it. I thought I'd make up some new ones to the same design but just make the mounting suface with the slotted holes for the chassis further back. :D

Farry

17th April 2013, 08:21 PM

Her you go, Making new brackets would probably be the better way to go, and if I knew that the bullbar has to be 45mm further forward & 40mm lower, I would do tha same.
The three silver plates sandwiched between the box section & the bullbar are spacer plates that come with the bullbar
If you need any other info, please ask.

thejonoaffair

17th April 2013, 08:37 PM

Thats great thanks.... It looks like a quick and good looking way to do it. I'll have to wait and see just how far forward I'll have to mount it... It'll only be to clear the steel headlight guards I ordered with it so 25mm might be enough (its not the SVX version). Making new brackets won't be a problem at least, as i'm a boilermaker. But i'll post some pictures when I actually get it sometime next month!
Thanks again.

Farry

18th April 2013, 05:53 AM

Yeh, post some pics once it's done. More info that may be useful. I hung the bullbar from a chain block at about the right height with a trolley jack underneath at each end (cause it'll never hang level), bolted the ARB mounting brackets to the chassis, & carefully nudged the car forward. With the help of the chainblock & trolley jacks positioned the bullbar where I wanted it, then slide underneath to see what gap I had between the bullbar & brackets.

Good Luck!:)

thejonoaffair

15th June 2013, 04:34 PM

Well its been some time but here are the pictures of the finnished job.
I did fabricate some new brackets, which I did fit (I built them identical to the ARB mounting brackets just with the mounting holes and plates 25mm further back). However, to fit it with the headlight protectors still in place, because the new design's wings sit very close to the headlights, I found I still needed to move the bar another 30mm forward and this was with an additional 25mm packer I made up! This would've ment the bar sitting too far out for me.

So I thought "sod this for a game of bull bars!" I fitted the original brackets with the factory packers plus the 25mm packer I made up, took the headlight cages off and fitted the bar.
Then (a few weeks later) I swallowed hard, and took to the factory headlight protectors with the angle grinder. By removing the second lowest cross bar and about 25mm from the outside upright bar I could shimmy them behind the bull bar wing and fit them without too much trouble.

I thought "Well if i payed for them I may as well modify them to fit rather than having a $500 optional extra sitting unused in a shed."
More pictures on next page....

thejonoaffair

15th June 2013, 05:00 PM

AND SOME MORE.....

dawsey

15th June 2013, 07:54 PM

got a arb bar fitted on friday..I like it.was gonna go terra firma tube bar ,sorta glad I didnt..

Farry

18th June 2013, 10:01 AM

Well done Jono, looks better when the bar is at the correct height doesent it, might have to revisit mine...Hmmmmm.:angel:

VladTepes

15th November 2013, 03:59 PM

Had a quick look - can't see any pics of what the 'new' (Puma 2010) ARB bar looks like not fitted. I have a bar that came off a Puma and am just trying to identify it exactly. It looks like an ARB bar to me.

dullbird

15th November 2013, 10:27 PM

Vlad the new bar has a dip on either side of the main uprights you cant miss them..if it doesnt have these its not a new design bar and I would hazard a guess at if it doesnt have the ARB on it then its probably not either

VladTepes

15th November 2013, 10:53 PM

Doesn't have those and no giant ARB stickers on the front neither.... It LOOKS like an ARB bar though.... has winch mount options for high and low mount, by the look of it.

I'm gonna have to take some pics when I get a chance aren't I ....

dullbird

15th November 2013, 10:55 PM

Are OK maybe it is then and was just modified to fit a puma

VladTepes

15th November 2013, 11:01 PM

Well it's amazing what google can do... I'm almost certain its this - a TJM bar.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/660.jpg

in good nick and half the price of a new one too ! (AULRO rocks!)

Summiitt

16th November 2013, 06:08 PM

Tjm are just pricing up fitting a set of scrub bars to a 2012 130 dual cab 'fat bar ARB' bulbar...they were keen to try and make them work and said that they had done them before...thinking around $800 all said done

Grappler

17th December 2016, 09:23 PM

My son has a 2014 90. He has been told to fit an ARB bullbar he needs to replace the grille with a standard one. The grille fitted is a Landrover "Black Pack" which he has been told protrudes more. Has anyone had to do this or do the mounting spacers discussed earlier in this thread solve the issue? ? Does the standard Defender grille fit all Defenders?

Jan

17th December 2016, 11:27 PM

jon3950

18th December 2016, 07:31 AM

Isn't the Black Pack grille just a standard one painted black? I think they are confusing it with the SVX grille.

Cheers,
Jon

SeanMurr123

18th December 2016, 09:41 PM

I have a Black Pack and the grill is the same as the standard one but the surround and the grill are painted black.

Here it is next to a silver pack with no bar.

117588

SVX is the one the new ARB doesn't work with but I recon it would be more because of the headlight surrounds.

Sean

cuppabillytea

18th December 2016, 11:10 PM

I got my Bar at a discount because it wouldn't fit the one it was ordered for. I think the Heritage grill might protrude more.

tonyf

19th December 2016, 08:12 PM

Don't know the "Black Pack" grill - the 2015 Heritage grill protrudes quite a bit but an ARB BB was fitted without problems or modifications. It became a bit more difficult to remove the headlight surrounds - but still possible though.

The Heritage grille protrudes 20mm less than the standard one, because it is flat with not fins sticking out from the frame.

jimr1

19th December 2016, 09:30 PM

Hi I have the later ARB Delux bar , it fits without any modification to the front grill The older ARB winch bar needed a couple of small bits cut off the back so it cleared the grill . I think the bar looks ok , but not as good a deign as the earlier winch bar . Very difficult to get to the winch spool lever . Should have a bit more clearance , as you can't get your had in from the top !!.. Jim