Series 2 with coil susp

[LRO]

Bought this series 2 -2a, just wondering if the body is ex military as it has coil springs and disk brakes all round.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/282.jpg
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[Landy Smurf]

is that the one that was on ebay and the guy had it as an unfinished project

[LRO]

Hi
Yeah thats the one

[Landy Smurf]

i dont think it is ex mil

[Landy Smurf]

so what is it like it does run doesnt it

[isuzutoo-eh]

It does have the passenger side fuel filler/tank, which was common on military series but not so common on civvies.
The guards are cut higher than military guards.
There weren't as far as I know any hardtop shorty military Landies.
It has series 3 door hinges.
Its just a bit of a bitza :D

[LRO]

It does run, only got it today.

[JDNSW]

Looks as if it has a Series 2a chassis but converted to coils with RR axles. Nothing except the paint colour to suggest it could be military. If you are planning to use it on the road it will need a lot of engineering approvals - and you won't get one for that drag link!

John

[LRO]

It does have a blue plate on it for the mods all ready done. Have add photo of the MOD Plate

[Slunnie]

Looks as if it has a Series 2a chassis but converted to coils with RR axles. Nothing except the paint colour to suggest it could be military. If you are planning to use it on the road it will need a lot of engineering approvals - and you won't get one for that drag link!

John
It looked like it had a mod plate already, but that drag link is a shocker!!! Looks like its taken a hit.

[Sideroad]

Great toy, if i had not gotten hitched last year I would have bought it. Don't want to scare off the new wife.
Have fun

[LRO]

Hi
Would they be complete diffs, housings and all from a range rover.

[JDNSW]

Hi
Would they be complete diffs, housings and all from a range rover.

Certainly looks like it!

John

[BigJon]

Looks like I am not the only one who spotted that terrible drag link!

[VladTepes]

and I found the details of these codes - what they cover - here:

National Code of Practice
National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP) (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx)

[VladTepes]

A more complete listiof mo codes from here:
Boostcruising.com > Mod Plate Codes (http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t175463.html)



Modification codes for light vehicles
(GVM or GTM 4.5 tonnes or less)

Engine
LA1 Engine Installation / Modification
LA2 Engine Design
LA3 Engine Emission Test
LA4 Vehicle Noise test

Fuel System
LB1 Fuel System Installation / Modification
LB2 Fuel System Design

Intake/Exhaust System
LC1 Intake/Exhaust Modification
LC2 Intake/Exhaust Design
LC3 Turbo/Supercharger Installation / Modification
LC4 Turbo or Supercharger Design

Transmission or Driveline
LD1 Transmission or Drive train Installation / Modification
LD2 Transmission or Drive train Design

Steering System
LE1 Steering Modification
LE2 Steering Design

Suspension
LF1 Suspension Modification
LF2 Suspension Design

Braking System
LG1 Brake System Modification
LG2 Brake System Design

Body, Chassis or Frame
LH1 Sunroof installation
LH2 Turret or Roof Modification (eg sedan to convertible or back)
LH3 Wheelbase or Wheel track Modification / Design
LH4 Body, Chassis or Frame Modification
LH5 Body, Chassis or Frame Design
LH6 Determine vehicle rating (ie GVM, GCM or ATM, GTM)
LH7 Structural Analysis: Beaming & Torsion Test
LH7 Structural Analysis: Dynamic Stability Test
LH8 Not Used
LH9 Street Rod Construction
LH10 Not Used
LH11 Campervan and Motorhome Conversion

Driving Controls or Aids
LJ1 Driving Control or Aid, Installation / Modification
LJ2 Driving Control or Aid, Design

Seating or Occupant Protection
LK1 Seat/Seat Belt Installation / Modification
LK2 Child Restraint Installation / Modification
LK3 Anchorage Design for Seats, Seat Belts or Child Restraints
LK4 Wheelchair Restraint Installation / Modification
LK5 Wheelchair Restraint Design
LK6 Roll Bar/Cage Installation / Design
LK7 Not Used
LK8 Roll Bar and Roll Cage Installation

Lighting System
LL1 Lighting System Installation / Modification
LL2 Lighting System Design

Fuel Systems
LM1 Fuel Tank Alteration
LM2 Liquid Petroleum Gas Installation
LM3 Compressed Natural Gas Installation

Vehicle Standards Compliance
LO1 Australian Design Rule Compliance
LO2 ICV Passenger Cars and Derivatives
LO3 Personal Imported Vehicle Compliance
LO4 ICV Tricycle LEM1
LO5 ICV Tricycle LEP1
LO6 Street Rods
LO7 ICV Motorcycle

Suspension and Steering
LS1 LHD Vehicle Steering Conversion (Design)
LS2 LHD Vehicle Steering Conversion
LS3 Front Suspension and Steering Conversion (Design)
LS4 Front Suspension and Steering Conversion
LS5 Rear Suspension Conversion (Design)
LS6 Rear Suspension Conversion
LS7 High Lift - 50mm to 150mm (Design)
LS8 High Lift - 50mm to 150mm Conversion

Body, Chassis or Frame
LT1 Tow Coupling Installation/ Modification
LT2 Fifth Wheel and King Pin Installation/ Modification
LT3 Coupling Design
LQ1 Vehicle-mounted hoist, crane, lift gate, etc, Installation / Modification
LQ2 Vehicle-mounted hoist, crane, lift gate, etc, Design
LQ3 Wheelchair Loader Installation / Modification
LQ4 Wheelchair Loader Design

Wheels, Tyres or Axles
LW1 Axle Installation / Modification
LW2 Axle Design
LW3 Wheels/Tyres package Installation/ Modification
LW4 Wheels/Tyres package Design

Other
LX1 Individually Constructed Vehicle (ICV)
LX2 Imported Vehicle
LX3 Moped, M/Cycle or M/Tricycle Modification
LX4 Moped, M/Cycle or M/Tricycle Design
LX5 Tow Truck Design



Another list i found has
LB1 Transmission substitution
LB2 Rear axle subtitution
LT1 Beaming & Torsion Tests
LT2 Lane Change Manoeuvering Test
LT3 Gaseous Emissions Test
LT4 Noise Test

So i'm not sure why there's a diffence between the 2 lists.

Links
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vib58.pdf (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vib58.pdf)
http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safety/...ro_3Feb2006.pdf (http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safety/road/bulletin/pdf/NCOP2_Intro_3Feb2006.pdf)
National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification
http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safety/...n/vsb_ncop.aspx (http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safety/road/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx)



Another list from Qld Transport
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...%20_Feb2004.pdf (http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinfo.nsf/ReferenceLookup/AIS_codeofpractice_Section3%20_Feb2004.pdf/$file/AIS_codeofpractice_Section3%20_Feb2004.pdf)

LIGHT VEHICLE MODIFICATION CODES

LA1 Engine Substitution
LA3 Turbocharger and Supercharger Installation
LB1 Transmission Substitution
LD1 Rear Axle Replacement
LD2 Differential Substitution
LG1 Brake System Substitution (Design)
LG2 Brake System Substitution (Modification)
LH1 Convertible and Cabriolet Conversion (Design)
LH2 Convertible and Cabriolet Conversion (Modification)
LH3 Passenger Vehicle Extended Wheelbase Conversion (Design)
LH4 Passenger Vehicle Extended Wheelbase Conversion (Modification)
LH5 Individual and Low Volume Vehicles (Design)
LH6 Individual and Low Volume Vehicles (Modification)
LH7 Panel Van to Utility Conversion
LH8 Roll Bar and Roll Cage Installation
LH9 Street Rod Certification (Concessional Registration)
LH10 Street Rod Certification (Unrestricted Registration)
LK1 Seating Capacity Alteration and Seat Belt Installation
LK2 Seat, Seat Anchorage and Seat Belt Anchorage Certification
LK6 Child Restraint Anchorage Installation
LK7 Motorcycle Seating Capacity Alteration
LM1 Fuel Tank Alteration
LO1 Australian Design Rule (ADR) Compliance
LO2 Pre 1972 Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance
LO3 Personally Imported Vehicle Compliance
LS1 Steering Conversion (Design)
LS2 Steering Conversion (Modification)
LT1 Beaming and Torsional Testing


Might be worth putting this in a seperate sticky somewhere... any suggestions as to which forum ? Possibly the technical one ?

[ScottW]

So someone finally bought it. :)

series 2 coily (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/96256-series-2-coily.html)

The mod codes have been discussed previously. Hope that helps.

If I remember correctly, it has 3 fuel tanks in there but they aren't hooked up. And multiple fillers. It'd make a good project but I decided I didn't have the time, and wasn't really keen on chasing down the paperwork for the mod plate. It'd be good to know exactly what was included on that mod plate. The plate was dated 2004, so the conversion is not that old.

[UncleHo]

G'day LRO :)

That chassis No is interesting,943*****B that reads as 6 cylinder Ser 3 109 RHD Ckd :o by that blue compliance plate, the rear X-member is civilain series,the tub looks like 2/2a military with a SWB station wagon top,series 3 door hinges, the front and rear axle assembly are Classic Range Rover,and it looks like it has been towed by the drag link, or towed to be loaded on transport :mad: the chassis no might be the sticking point when it comes up for rego,could well be the reason for it's sale :(


cheers

[LRO]

Hi
It does have 3 fuel tanks,but the pump is not working. It is a Facet pump of the cylindrical shape with the outlet on the top and the inlet on the bottom.the engine does start straight away and we can drive around the front hard. Not to sure about low range as when I put it in low range it travelles at the same speed as high. Just to make sure I am doing it right you pull the red lever back and push the yellow level down. I will try and track down the guy that did the mods on the car. I think he lives on the south side of Brisbane

[UncleHo]

G'day LRO :)

The yellow lever will engage 4 wheel drive HI-range only, BUT by just pulling back the red lever will give you LOW-range, it also pops hi range lever back up, so to dis-engage high range 4X you pull the red back and move it back forward to give 2 wheel HI range :)


cheers

[LRO]

Hi
Thanks Uncleho it would appear i was cancelling out low range everytime. For the $1100 my son paid for it i think it is a good car especially with coil sup and disk brakes

[ScottW]

Intresting. I was wondering what it went for. I watched it go to the $1500's more than once on ebay (with no reserve so no idea while the sale didn't go though either time). Then it was listed for 2 grand for a while as well. I'm sure it'll be a fun little car and hopefully there's not too much work in getting it back on the road.

[LRO jr]

Does anyone no where you can buy a Facet electric petrol fuel pump from.

[Mick_Marsh]

Does anyone no where you can buy a Facet electric petrol fuel pump from.
Goss & Facet at "Super Cheap Auto" & "Burson"

[UncleHo]

G'day LRO :)

I would try Supercrud at Strathpine or Repco Caboolture (talk to Kevin or Ross) and if this is a front (engine bay) pump you will need a puller pump not a pusher ;) I notice it still has the 4 cylinder motor so if needed the repair kit for the original pump is Goss 966KT, and kits are still available through British Off Road as I had to replace my pump diaphragm last year.



cheers

[LRO]

Hi
This fuel pump i think is for transfering fuel between tanks.

[LRO]

Hi
Whent to start the car and had a slight fire in the engine bay this arvo. the black cable from the alternater has melted badly in certain spots causing a lot of smoke. Are these cars positive earth or negative earth( do i have that right ) as the red cable goes to the body.

[JDNSW]

It is probably originally negative earth but if fitted with an alternator to replace the original generator, it is now certainly negative earth - and incorrect polarity could cause the fire, although this would have happened as soon as the battery was connected, as the alternator would appear as a dead short.

Identifying wires by colour when the harness has certainly been modified is not very useful. Usually, a melted wire means that it has shorted somewhere, and if it did this when you tried to start, it may be the wire to the alternator which is supplied with power when you switched on the ignition, and this is either shorted or the alternator has developed a fault. On the other hand, it could be the main battery feed to the alternator, which rubbed through the last bit of insulation when the engine vibrated. Bit hard to tell without looking which terminal on the alternator it is connected to (and since the alternator is aftermarket, I have no idea which alternator it is).

I suggest a look at the wiring by someone with auto electrical knowledge would be worthwhile.

John

[LRO]

Hi
When i first put the battery in the car it would not turn over and the red light on the dash would not come on. I changed the terminals around and it started fine, and has done for the last six times. I will replace the black wire and see what happens.

[Aaron IIA]

Facet fuel pumps a polarity sensitive.

Aaron.

[agrojnr]

You can get cheap facet pumps off ebay.

Looks like it has either rangie diffs or disco ones (dual lines to front caliper) and it also looks like a stage 1 steering relay (I could be wrong)

The pump you are describing sounds like the stage 1/early rangie type like this

PRC3901 ELECTRIC V8 PUMP | shop | www.lrseries.com | L. R. Series (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/9820/PRC3901-ELECTRIC-V8-PUMP.html?limit=0&search=fuel)

Adam

[Johnno1969]

So how does it feel to drive? How does it stop?

Questions, questions......

[LRO]

Hi
It did drive all right at the start and does stop well. Will have to fix the burnt wire from the alternater first. will do that today and go for a drive up the street, will let you know

[ScottW]

So where's the update? :D

I'm rather intresting in this vehicle still after seeing it. Lots of potential, but also may generate a few problems. I'm hoping the latter never comes.

[LRO]

Hi
Sorry have only just fix up the wires tonight to much other stuff to do. Fell free to come and have a look. Not this weekend willk be going to Sydney to pick up my Isuzu 4bd1-t engine