the Tin Worm budget rock toy (warning non rover)

[HBWC]

i know i know its not a rover but im on a budget and using what ever i can get cheap or free
any way some of it might not make sense cause i'm doing some copy and pasting
hi thought i might chuck this up
its a scat that was given to me by my land lord
this is how i got it hadn't been moved for 15 years
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1352.jpg
then i cut the doors down
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1353.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1354.jpg

[HBWC]

then i removed seats bolted a door on to see how she looked.
also tryed to remove the tray at that time but the bolts are on tighter than a hooker sucking
so this is my brother mucking around
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1350.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1351.jpg

also moved it to mums place so i can use her power and not mess up the rental
then we set to the tray bloddy thing was stuffed and my brother wanted to destroy it
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs494.ash1/26969_1313553876992_1175024633_30809787_6590967_n. jpg

thats where im up to now

list of goodies i have to pick up or fit

patrol remote transfer case (have it sitting in the front garden)
locked 75 series cruiser diffs (of my old cruiser)
charade motor and box (got to pick it up well a whole car)
clean up the rust
a ccda spec cage
3 link aframe suspension front and rear
suck down winch for the rear diff
and chuck my old 35's on for fun till i can upgrade to 36/7's

[HBWC]

took the screen out due to it being broken
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs494.ash1/26969_1320875700033_1175024633_30822674_5073389_n. jpg
the floor wasnt as rusted as expected
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs514.snc3/26969_1320875820036_1175024633_30822677_2861954_n. jpg
and the fire extinguisher it did the job
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs494.snc3/26969_1320875900038_1175024633_30822678_8181058_n. jpg
and what do you do if the roof is rusty
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs494.ash1/26969_1320875740034_1175024633_30822675_4594430_n. jpg



















you make a huge sun roof
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs494.ash1/26969_1320875780035_1175024633_30822676_7280071_n. jpg

[HBWC]

any way first up my mate ian rocked up this morning with a bottle of beam and a block and tackle
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs484.ash1/26489_1323553326972_1175024633_30826676_1440374_n. jpg
next the motor and box nearly out
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs484.snc3/26489_1323553366973_1175024633_30826677_398077_n.j pg
and finely
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs504.snc3/26489_1323553406974_1175024633_30826678_6301490_n. jpg
any one need spares?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs504.snc3/26489_1323554847010_1175024633_30826679_7206271_n. jpg
and started capping the doors stuffed the first one all well
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs484.ash1/26489_1326346556801_1175024633_30833295_7822483_n. jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs484.ash1/26489_1326346556801_1175024633_30833295_7822483_n. jpg
rust be gone well some of it
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs484.ash1/26489_1326346516800_1175024633_30833294_5185041_n. jpg
and the stands im going to put the chassis on
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs504.snc3/26489_1326346596802_1175024633_30833296_4282688_n. jpg

[HBWC]

more updates
shes now up on stands
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs429.snc3/24738_1329085745279_1175024633_30837779_7593810_n. jpg
its a bit higher than expected using my brother as a measure
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs409.snc3/24738_1329085825281_1175024633_30837781_411711_n.j pg
now me
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs409.snc3/24738_1329085865282_1175024633_30837782_2158511_n. jpg
diffs are also out apart from front links and steering
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs429.snc3/24738_1329085785280_1175024633_30837780_8249329_n. jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs429.snc3/24738_1329085785280_1175024633_30837780_8249329_n. jpg
not a bad days work for working by my self

any way havent done much this week due to work and this
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs549.snc3/30061_1336375327514_1175024633_30853876_6365762_n. jpg
any way back on track fuel tanks out and so is the front diff
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs304.snc3/28809_1336377447567_1175024633_30853879_6075598_n. jpg
and my first real piece of sponsorship so a big thanks to troy at mini moto in Rockingham
yes i have a big head its a xxl
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs333.ash1/28809_1336377487568_1175024633_30853880_1920386_n. jpg

[Sparksdisco]

looking good :D:D:D

[LandyAndy]

Good work Johnno.
Keep at it!!!!
If anybody can help Johnno with this project Im sure it will be much appreciated.
When Johnno is ready to compete he will be the first paraplegic in Australia(to his knowledge) to compete in rock crawling.
If anybody has contacts that they feel may be able to help Johnno please help out.
Thanks
Andrew

[agrojnr]

As with the rest of the comp boys Jonno let me know if ya need anything steel wise and I can see what I can do

Adam

[HBWC]

As with the rest of the comp boys Jonno let me know if ya need anything steel wise and I can see what I can do

Adam
thanks i will be hiting you up with cardboard pattens

[subasurf]

Not that I can do a whole lot, but if you need a hand with what ever, I'm up for it.

[Sash_Disco2]

mate I am in if ya need a hand, I am a panel beater by trade and a very good automotive engineer.


PM or give me call.:)

[HBWC]

thanks sash i'll be in contact latter in the build (ps spotted your all rig tonight
anyway quick update
picked up the dihatsu tonight and its a applause not a charaide
so its a flash on and fuel injected

[HBWC]

the donner car has arived and a big thanks to my mate tom for the donation
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs583.snc3/30749_1342571802422_1175024633_30864735_6519979_n. jpg
defiantly a auto elecy job to wire the scat now
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs563.snc3/30749_1342571842423_1175024633_30864736_1918342_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs563.snc3/30749_1342571882424_1175024633_30864737_5046906_n. jpg

[subasurf]

Charade or Applause?

[HBWC]

applause it runs sweet

[LandyAndy]

And we can hand on the applause whilst you are competing:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[subasurf]

I had an applause for a few years as a first car (given to me). She ran and drove sweet and I gave her hell.

[Bearman]

Great work Jono. Is it going to have a transfer case setup when you are finished.

[banjo]

Hey jono any more pics .. I would love to help but you know my story.If i can help in any way just say so..;)

[HBWC]

Great work Jono. Is it going to have a transfer case setup when you are finished.
not sure yet i have a patrol remote transfer case hear and would like to incorporate it for super low gearing

[HBWC]

Hey jono any more pics .. I would love to help but you know my story.If i can help in any way just say so..;)
thanks mate
pic's? what would you like pics of i can take more or may have some .

[HBWC]

for anyone wondering how im going to use the fwd motor in a north south situation
first up is my preferred option
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs563.snc3/30749_1343454944500_1175024633_30866363_6000899_n. jpg
next is the most common when using a front wheel drive motor
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs583.snc3/30749_1343454984501_1175024633_30866364_1760588_n. jpg

[HBWC]

sorry banjo no real pics of today's work un less you like maths calculation
but one i forgot the other day
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs512.ash1/30220_1346728946348_1175024633_30872559_4060570_n. jpg

[daRangie]

Nice build up, mate. I look forward to seeing how it turns out, having owned both a Daihatsu F10 and an Applause. It may be worth keeping in mind that the Daihatsu Feroza runs a version of the Applause motor in a North-South configuration.

[Michael2]

Just an idea for something completely different.

You can run a massive alternator off the motor, then couple the transfercase to an very torquey electric motor. That way there is no gearbox and no interfaces (ie clutch, gearbox , transfercase to mate up). An electric motor will give you very quick acceleration as well as very low speed, which may also save on lower rock crawling gear conversions. Run a bank of batteries for some reserve.

There was a series Land Rover set up like this in the USA, and there was a Discovery Channel episode on it.

[HBWC]

Nice build up, mate. I look forward to seeing how it turns out, having owned both a Daihatsu F10 and an Applause. It may be worth keeping in mind that the Daihatsu Feroza runs a version of the Applause motor in a North-South configuration.
thanks but no thanks i need the east west configaration

Just an idea for something completely different.

You can run a massive alternator off the motor, then couple the transfercase to an very torquey electric motor. That way there is no gearbox and no interfaces (ie clutch, gearbox , transfercase to mate up). An electric motor will give you very quick acceleration as well as very low speed, which may also save on lower rock crawling gear conversions. Run a bank of batteries for some reserve.

There was a series Land Rover set up like this in the USA, and there was a Discovery Channel episode on it.
saw that like the idea but gearing wont be a issue as top speed will be around 60kmh
and my slowest speed will be about half walking pass at high revs

[HBWC]

i bought 2 of these today now just got to wait for them to rock up
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs334.ash1/28870_1356372627434_1175024633_30892091_4698146_n. jpg

[HBWC]

more updates
cut the rear of the chassis off
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs511.ash1/30170_1378014408465_1175024633_30943767_3515019_n. jpg
to late cant go back to leaves now
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs551.snc3/30170_1378014488467_1175024633_30943768_2281273_n. jpg
I'm going to blow my budget and fit a set of these
http://locktup4x4.com.au/images/rbs-co-web.jpg
also started to take the guards off
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs531.snc3/30170_1378014528468_1175024633_30943769_6137798_n. jpg
mmmmmmmm rust all well i'm fitting a ally plate fire wall any way
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs551.snc3/30170_1378014608470_1175024633_30943771_7786888_n. jpg

[banjo]

Its looking good jono will be great to see it finished..

[HBWC]

i'm a un happy camper the bloke who's meant to be welding for me never turned up

so in between showers i atacked the fire wall i think i went to far all well

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs047.ash2/35697_1387509765843_1175024633_30965865_8093262_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs087.snc4/35697_1387509685841_1175024633_30965863_1238009_n. jpg

[HBWC]

ess talk more pic's
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs076.snc4/35173_1404497430524_1175024633_31006213_4711729_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs036.ash2/35173_1404497470525_1175024633_31006214_3215588_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs036.ash2/35173_1404497510526_1175024633_31006215_1223710_n. jpg
front diff nearly done just needs lower control arm brackets
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs076.snc4/35173_1404497550527_1175024633_31006216_895461_n.j pg
roll cage tube!!!!!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs036.ash2/35173_1404497590528_1175024633_31006217_5685325_n. jpg

[Bearman]

looking good Jono, don't think you will bend that diff housing in a hurry, whats going in the back? You don't seem to have much chassis left to mount a rear diff.

[HBWC]

with a linked setup and airshocks/coilovers the diff can stick well past the chassis without issue

[Bearman]

Mate that thing will climb a brick wall when you're finished!:eek:

[HBWC]

Mate that thing will climb a brick wall when you're finished!:eek:
thats the plan one one of the stages in the up comming comp theirs a 10ft vertical ledge to climb

[LandyAndy]

Good to see progress Johnno.
Cant wait to see you in Comp with it.
Im sure we can sort a WA AULROian pit crew when its a goer.
Andrew

[HBWC]

Good to see progress Johnno.
Cant wait to see you in Comp with it.
Im sure we can sort a WA AULROian pit crew when its a goer.
Andrew
still looking for safty crew to i need 2 people flowoing me on the wrong side of the fence just in case i roll

[LandyAndy]

When is you first event Johnno,assuming you build it????
Im willing to help out Im sure we can get a crew on side!!!
Andrew

[HBWC]

rocks in the paddock andy September down your way the rover craft boys will be their

[cal415]

Nice work HBWC, good too see a budget build aimed at the hard stuff... even if its not rover :)

Did you have any issues with the housing bending with the bracing?

[HBWC]

Nice work HBWC, good too see a budget build aimed at the hard stuff... even if its not rover :)

Did you have any issues with the housing bending with the bracing?
non at all but the diffs i am useing are the very last of the big center fronts tojo made and at their thinest point are 6mm thick whitch helps heaps

i would love to make something rover based up funds do strech as yet to make it a true rover
but the next one will be

[HBWC]

me old 75 is looking pretty sad for its self all well all the good parts going into other projects
any way any body after anything ?
http://a.imageshack.us/img39/7717/dsc02784dj.jpg

rear diffs almost done just got to weld lower control arm brackets
and pic of the brackets beeing cut
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs077.snc4/35212_1409754361944_1175024633_31018077_897994_n.j pg

[HBWC]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs036.ash2/35176_1410623383669_1175024633_31019405_994263_n.j pg
and another freebie
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs056.snc4/35176_1410623423670_1175024633_31019406_892278_n.j pg

[HBWC]

rear lower arms done, front rear/uppers to be done once more patrol arms are obtained, also all control arm mounts cut, just need to be drilled and cleaned up.

bushing removal :p
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4568/dsc02798ru.jpg

arms
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1487/dsc02799s.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[HBWC]

more updates
moved the doner car in to start removing the motor (ps the wireing was doing my head in)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs231.snc4/38896_1426352856896_1175024633_31057027_2542067_n. jpg
after watching the tuff truck dvd i decided the roof had to go
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs231.snc4/38896_1426352896897_1175024633_31057028_3048087_n. jpg
after
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38896_1426352936898_1175024633_31057029_1974039_n. jpg
different angle
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38896_1426352976899_1175024633_31057030_2692731_n. jpg
trying to but the transfer case in but finding out the old battery box is in the way
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38896_1426353016900_1175024633_31057031_2049732_n. jpg

[Psimpson7]

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4352/dsc02800h.jpg

Coming on well Jono,

Just a question on these arms. Were the arms notched to match the tube for the bush? or did you just cut them square and fill the gap with weld?

Rgds
Pete

[HBWC]

Coming on well Jono,

Just a question on these arms. Were the arms notched to match the tube for the bush? or did you just cut them square and fill the gap with weld?

Rgds
Pete
they are a nissan gq patrol arm thats been cut then the shed 120 has been pushed over the top so no notching

hope that helps

[long stroke]

Coming along well mate!!
Great work, keep it up:cool:

TIM.

[HBWC]

thanks tim everything is a rush right now

remote transfer is IN!

lower arm brackets nearly done! 1 to go

hopefully Tuesday it'll be rolling

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2817/dsc02806i.jpg

[HBWC]

k update its rolling but i need to raise the bump stops on the rear by 3 inches and lower the front the same
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs317.snc4/41213_1440753336899_1175024633_31095229_3213429_n. jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs218.snc4/39250_1440753456902_1175024633_31095230_2526325_n. jpg
more pics after magdog gets home

[LandyAndy]

Good to see it coming together Johnno.
When is scrutineering????
Andrew

[HBWC]

been and gone andy have to get it done on the day and hope all is well
\needs more flex https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6589/dsc02817x.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6112/dsc02818qs.jpg

and 23 inches of flex in the arms
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6750/dsc02819d.jpg

[Siska]

Nice.

Where are you planning on mounting your shocks, to the axle or to the links?

[HBWC]

Nice.

Where are you planning on mounting your shocks, to the axle or to the links?
to the axle their going to be 16inch redback coil/air hi-breads

[HBWC]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs160.ash2/41363_1441857204495_1175024633_31097751_952021_n.j pg

[HBWC]

shortened the wheelbase its now 114inchs and that is also at rough ride hight so a 20 inch belly
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs419.snc4/46262_1445989067789_1175024633_31109148_326297_n.j pg

[digger]

HBWC,
mate thats come along heaps since I last looked at the thread,

its a ripper!, just for my curiousity, what colour you going to make it
and what will be its "crawling name"? (will it be "tin worm" or some play on the scat name?)

digger

[HBWC]

HBWC,
mate thats come along heaps since I last looked at the thread,

its a ripper!, just for my curiousity, what colour you going to make it
and what will be its "crawling name"? (will it be "tin worm" or some play on the scat name?)

digger
yer tin worn its unlucky to change a cars name
the colour is going to be anti rust golden yellow its very close to what it is now
and keap an eye out as things will be moving quick

[HBWC]

i have good and bad news

but first the good news rear is done
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs361.snc4/44459_1454999213037_1175024633_31131373_2078667_n. jpg

and

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs375.snc4/45779_1454999373041_1175024633_31131374_201684_n.j pg

and now the bad new im not competing in the up coming comp

[Landy Smurf]

top work looking forward to seeing this progress

[Bearman]

Why not Jono, what's happened?

[HBWC]

Why not Jono, what's happened?
stress
and it wouldnt have been upto standard dont want to have to do every thing twice

[LandyAndy]

People.
Johnno will be competing in the future!!!!
It was too much to finish this beast on time for this comp.
He intends to finish the project ready for the next years comps.
The best part is,it WONT have a SCAT body!!!!
Anybody in WA got a Series traytop cab to donate to the cause???
Andrew

[HBWC]

thanks andy even if anyony knows were theirs a cheap one

took the cab off today to make life easier to fit the motor ect
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs611.snc4/59127_1463628388761_1175024633_31148959_1886643_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs410.snc4/47278_1463628628767_1175024633_31148961_1615332_n. jpg

[HBWC]

yay an update getting back into this thing shortly

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/224779_1827948336532_1175024633_31743197_3700259_n .jpg
yep their jbells old iroks

[HBWC]

got rims for the 42
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253781_1896827298463_1175024633_31833700_3643129_n .jpg
then chucked them on George's 50mm lifted cruiser and surprisingly they fit
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253781_1896827458467_1175024633_31833704_897864_n. jpg

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Jonno, Great to see things are back on track.
Good Luck with it.
Dave.

[HBWC]

thanks the build will be realy slow but will be constent

[Bearman]

thanks the build will be realy slow but will be constent

Good to see things are coming along. Those wheels are awesome mate!