Steel wheels for FL2

[spelchek]

Looking to get a set of steelies and off-road tyres for my FL2. Did some sand track off-roading yesterday (mothers day request from the missus - surprised the hell out of me that she actually wanted to go offroading - might be the start of something !! :) and while she (the car and the missus) handled the soft stuff really quite well - I was always nervous of the 19' alloys and road tyres I've got on it. So I thought I'd start researching some wheel/tyre combos more suited to getting dirty.

Got a couple of questions for you all:

1. What size are the wheels for the fl2? Do all current LR's use the same studd pattern?

2. What size wheels/tyres would you guys recommend for offroad-only?

3. If I was to buy a set of wheels/tyres for off-road AND on-road use, what would you recommend?

4. Are there off-road/on-road tyres available for the 19 inch rims, and are they worthy of consideration - or are they a bad comprimise both for on and off road in this size?


Actually - I guess I'm looking for any and all info on shoes for the FL2 anyone here would like to throw at me! Ta!

[mikehzz]

Mate I looked at extra wheels for off roading. I already have the 17" standard alloys and just wanted an extra spare for outback travel. An extra wheel (just the rim) was going to cost over $700 each from LR. Its a pity we aren't in UK cause you can pick up full sets for that much with rubber on them. The 17's are fine off road, I've been all sorts of places in mine and not really had a problem. You have to ditch the street tyres though. I have Geolander ATS on mine and they are expensive because of the size, $325 a pop but they have been really good. I think from memory you are looking at $1600-$2000 for the after market wheels. Dorko on this forum bought a set so he would know (he might still have them since his FL2 was written off with hail damage).

The 19" tyres are ordinary off road because the profile is too low. On rocky roads you will pinch the sidewall and on sand you don't get enough ballooning. If you thought the 19's were good then you will be really surprised with the 17's. My Geolanders ATS's are great on and off road, a good all round tyre.

If you can find a lift kit, nudge bar and snorkel to suit then let me know.

Cheers
Mike

[Dorko]

Hey mate,

I went Speedy Wheels... they have a nice range now, before they only had one to suit the FL2. They will custom drill the stud pattern for you. I found it extremely hard to find shoes to fit off the shelf, and custom drilling was the only way at the time. I went a set of 17's with a set of Coopers ATR. However if i could do it again, i would go Coopers STT.

Dont get me wrong the ATR were fantastic on Sand, especially when lowed to 18psi. However now having MTR on my D4, i love the look and i assume it would be great in the mud and still floats over the sand. The noise from the MTR or the STT is no where near as bad as i thought, and i have the radio on all the time.

Unfortunately when i had the FL2 written off i had the 17's on it, but if you want another set of 19's... i have 5 rims/ tires, they only done around 5000kms...

However if you can go a smaller rim, the difference it makes to the FL2 is remarkable.

Dorko

[101RRS]

Hey mate,

I went Speedy Wheels... they have a nice range now, before they only had one to suit the FL2. They will custom drill the stud pattern for you. I found it extremely hard to find shoes to fit off the shelf, and custom drilling was the only way at the time.
Dorko

The above comment attracted my interest as I need to get something similar done - where did you get this done as Speedy Head Office now say they do not custom drill wheels.

Cheers

Garry

[Dorko]

Oh thats a bugga... :(

i went to Tyre Power and they did all the calls to Speedy.

Richard's tyrepower (http://www.richardstyrepower.com.au/indexflash.htm)

Brim, his name from memory. Brilliant to deal with... within 5 days i had the new wheels delivered and new rubber put on.

I wonder why Speedy would stop custom drill? Is the head office in QLD, because i know thats where they drilled them?

Dorko

[101RRS]

Head office is in Sydney. Freelanders have the BMW - Commodore stud pattern so they may have been able to easily modify a wheel at the Qld workshop.

Cheers

Garry

[Dorko]

hmmm not sure if the FL2 has the same stud pattern as the Fords/Holdens... when i was going through the process it was only volvo....

or it might of been legal load per a rim....

or maybe it was both.... :angel:

Dorko

[mikehzz]

Thinking on it, I think I got a quote from the big tyre/wheel place at Tempe on Princes Hwy in Sydney. They only had 1 set of wheels that would suit but that was about 8 mths ago now

[spelchek]

I rang speedy wheels today - there is only 1 wheel in their range to suit FL2's. Its the 'cross-5' model. Apparently FL2' have a unique stud pattern which makes any other LR wheel (including FL1) unsuitable. Typical!

Not sure about the FL2 having same stud pattern as BMW or commodore - none of the wheel people I spoke to today had that to say - they all said they were a unique pattern. GArrycol - where/who did you hear tht from, I;d like to have a chat to them about it because if it;s true it'll be a godsend!

[Dorko]

Yeh the Cross 5 is what i had! not pretty, but a very strong rim!

Dorko

[spelchek]

What did you pay for em, if you don't mind me askin, Dorko?

[Dorko]

i believe it was $2800 for the 5 rims and tyres. I'm sure it was over $3k.

Dorko

[101RRS]

I rang speedy wheels today - there is only 1 wheel in their range to suit FL2's. Its the 'cross-5' model. Apparently FL2' have a unique stud pattern which makes any other LR wheel (including FL1) unsuitable. Typical!

Not sure about the FL2 having same stud pattern as BMW or commodore - none of the wheel people I spoke to today had that to say - they all said they were a unique pattern. GArrycol - where/who did you hear tht from, I;d like to have a chat to them about it because if it;s true it'll be a godsend!

My bad - Commodore wheels have the same PCD as the FL1 not a FL2. My trailer has FL1 wheels on commodore hubs.

FL2 has a 108mm PCD which I understand is not common to any other landies. I have read on other forums that it is the same as a Ford Transit and other Ford Europe vehicles. I cannot confirm this but might be worth having a look. If they do have the same PCD then offset is likely to be an issue.

[Dorko]

I dont think a transit van will have strong enough rims with legal loading if they did fit.

But volvo rim fits! but then you will have a volvo badge on the rim :angel:

Dorko

[spelchek]

A transit van surely would have rims up to the load a FL2 put on em - surely!?!

So volvo rims DO fit eh? What about offset etc? Are you saying I just need to find a set of volvo rims of the desired diameter? Thee are only to be used when going off-road so appearances are completely unimportant. I'd even put up with a hyundai badge if the rims fit!! :)

[spelchek]

Bloomin' 'eck!! I can pick up a full set of volvo XC90 (the volvo suv) rims for - get this - $32 WHOLE dollars on ebay at the moment. 17" alloys.


Please let it be true they fit my FL2!!!!

[Scouse]

My bad - Commodore wheels have the same PCD as the FL1 not a FL2. My trailer has FL1 wheels on commodore hubs.

FL1 has 5 stud Ford PCD, not Commodore.

D2 is Commy.

[Dorko]

$32 bucks!!!! bargain!

Dorko

[camel_landy]

You shouldn't need to get anything custom drilled for the FL2 as quite a bit of the PAG stuff is built on common platforms.

Specifically, you can fit Volvo stuff to the FL2 and I suspect that Jag & some Ford stuff will fit too. (I have seen some of the test mules running on Volvo Type R rims before...).

If nothing else, that should help narrow down your search.

HTH

M

[Dorko]

Go to your local tyre dealer... they should have a book with the stud patterns and the list of available rims.

[styler]

I am interested if anyone has actually been able to purchase a replacement set of offroad wheels and tyres for a Freelander 2 recently. If anyone has bought a new Freelander 2 in the last 6 months like me, it would have come standard with 19" alloys with 55 profile tyres - sort of at odds with the cars 4WD capability!
I asked the dealer if I could exchange the 19" wheels for 17" at the time of purchase - but it would have cost extra!!
Any details of where you could buy 16" or 17" replacement wheels & ATR tyres would be appreciated.

[Phideaux]

Hi, All, Phideaux here,

About to sign up for a new FL2 TD4. Which WILL be going off-road/remote. So as standard practice I'll want a spare-spare. It's easier to get ridiculous skinny-tyre rims than it is to get 17" rims, apparently...

Does anyone know of a source of relatively cheap 17" rims? The best I've had offered is $600, and that wasn't firm.

Do Volvo or Transit rims actually fit? Anyone verified that?

I found one site in the UK (via Internet) which was willing to send them out here, might be able to get a set of 4 sent here for $1200-$1500 (to be confirmed). If so, would anyone(s) want to join in, take 1 or 2 rims?

Phideaux

[mikehzz]

A recent post on freel2.com had a guy buying Volvo rims and bfg's and it all working good. In the Australian posts

[Jaksbak]

I didn't have any problems ordering my new SD4 SE with 17 inch alloys. The SE comes standard with 18inch wheels (which look quite good) but are completely impractical for all terrain tyres. On the other hand, the SD4's come standard with 17 inch and it costs more to upgrade to the 18inch (or 19inch). I therefore figured the sales rep wouldn't have any dramas swapping the wheels on my SD4 with a TD4. He didn't either! The deal included Bridgestone Dueler all-terrain tyres on the 17" wheels at no extra cost. Alloys should be fine on a Freelander 2 - I don't see the need for steel rims as it's unlikely to get bashed around like you might with an older, low-ratio Jeep or Landy.
I WILL be going off-road also, but having been there, done that for a few years, I won't be challenging the hardest detours every single time - just getting there comfortably.

[Phideaux]

Hi, all, I never did track down 17" steel rims for an FL2 (though I tried!). I thought I'd found a UK site where it appeared that I'd be able to order tyres plus rims X6, delivered, for the less than the dealer price of 2 rims. Nope - that was FL1.
I ordered the TD4 from Barbagallo in Perth, to collect in August, with, as I thought, base-grade 17" alloys. Nope.:( I sent an e-mail saying, price spare-spare 17"? $1,107.00 - but it will be 18", they're not sending 17" to Oz any more. ?:mad: PS - got a spare alloy 18" rim from Graemecooper.com for $180, del. Am still looking for a supplier for steel rims, tho.

[freelander dave]

I have just purchased a set of 5 x 16" x 6.5" - OE land rover alloys and have had them fitted with Maxxis Buckshot full muds (225/75 x 16) the 18's fitted as std are fine for road use - but are expensive if you wreck a tyre - i will be using the 16" in western NSW early august and will post my thoughts. The spare fits ok in the well and the diameter increase is 4mm (FL2 2010 model TD4 HSE)

[spelchek]

A recent post on freel2.com had a guy buying Volvo rims and bfg's and it all working good. In the Australian posts


That was me - and yep, all good. They were Bridgestone Duellers , not BFG's tho.

[robdaria]

That was me - and yep, all good. They were Bridgestone Duellers , not BFG's tho.
Hey, i'm looking at some 16"/ 6.5" 2007 volvo s40 rims for my 2009 freelander 2. just wondering what size/sort of volvo rims did u use and were u worried about load rating of the rim?

[cdn_downunder]

That was me - and yep, all good. They were Bridgestone Duellers , not BFG's tho.

What were the wheel and tyre specs? I've got 19" road tyres on my FL2 SD4 which look great and are fine for highway driving but we're doing more and more off road camping trips so I'm looking for a second hand set of 17" rims I can put some AT tyres on and the Volvo's appear to be the most available here in Aus.

Many thanks!

[Alan7140]

This is the most comprehensive chart of fitment compatibility, plus the actual measurements of the Freelander 2 stud PCD, centre bore & offset for comparison:

PCD Land Rover Freelander II (2006 - ) wheels -Wheel-Fitment.com - PCD, Offset and Center Bore data (http://www.wheel-fitment.com/car/Land%20Rover/Freelander%20II%20%282006%20-%20%29/)

[cdn_downunder]

This is the most comprehensive chart of fitment compatibility, plus the actual measurements of the Freelander 2 stud PCD, centre bore & offset for comparison:

PCD Land Rover Freelander II (2006 - ) wheels -Wheel-Fitment.com - PCD, Offset and Center Bore data (http://www.wheel-fitment.com/car/Land%20Rover/Freelander%20II%20%282006%20-%20%29/)

Brilliant! Many thanks.

[cdn_downunder]

Does anybody know if the wheels from a 98 Freelander 1 will fit and FL2?

[camel_landy]

Does anybody know if the wheels from a 98 Freelander 1 will fit and FL2?

No they won't, completely different.

M

[cdn_downunder]

While I realise that 19" wheels are far from ideal for off roading, our finances are a bit tight and our stock Continentals need replacing after just over 40,000kms. We do a fair bit of light off roading so I thought I try to get something with a bit more tread depth and tyre width.

I was wondering if anyone had tried the following tyres with these 19" wheels - I'm struggling to find the specifics for these wheels in turns of width, offset, etc but I have found people who have used these on FL2 19" wheels - but I believe they are the stock 19" from the HSE, so I thought I'd put this out to the knowledgeable souls here on AULRO.

Cooper Zeon LTZ 255/55R19 (I understand these are max size without rubbing or requiring spacers - at least with the stock HSE 19" but will throw out the speedo by 2.7%

My other alternatives are General Grabber AT in 255/50R19 (which will throw the speedo out by under 1%) or Michelen 4x4 Diamaris also in 255/50R19

Just wondering if anyone can confirm if the 19" 10 Spoke Diamond Turned with Contrast Paint are the same as the HSE 19" wheels or if they've had any experience with these tyres?

Thanks in advance for your time.

[cdn_downunder]

While I realise that 19" wheels are far from ideal for off roading, our finances are a bit tight and our stock Continentals need replacing after just over 40,000kms. We do a fair bit of light off roading so I thought I try to get something with a bit more tread depth and tyre width.

I was wondering if anyone had tried the following tyres with these 19" wheels - I'm struggling to find the specifics for these wheels in turns of width, offset, etc but I have found people who have used these on FL2 19" wheels - but I believe they are the stock 19" from the HSE, so I thought I'd put this out to the knowledgeable souls here on AULRO.

Cooper Zeon LTZ 255/55R19 (I understand these are max size without rubbing or requiring spacers - at least with the stock HSE 19" but will throw out the speedo by 2.7%

My other alternatives are General Grabber AT in 255/50R19 (which will throw the speedo out by under 1%) or Michelen 4x4 Diamaris also in 255/50R19

Just wondering if anyone can confirm if the 19" 10 Spoke Diamond Turned with Contrast Paint are the same as the HSE 19" wheels or if they've had any experience with these tyres?

Thanks in advance for your time.

[Pejo]

Well cant find the answer here [bigsmile]