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drew
11th May 2010, 07:17 PM
hi to all defy owners

this is my first post so hope fully i can only get better , i have just purchased a new 130 dual cab only put 1000 clicks on the clock and sadly its at the panel shop (shattered) when i picked it up only opened up the doors once , wasnt till i got home that the wife said a brand new car and you can't shut the doors . That is when i had a good look at how far the doors were out of alingment . Anyway has anyone else had this promblem ? cheers

dullbird
11th May 2010, 07:22 PM
welcome to the forum drew

any pictures?

most of us owners of new pumas have pretty much had a drama in one shape or form... I believe ill fitting panels is one of them, I would talking to your dealer about it.

1000 clicks is that how far you are away from where you picked it up?

pc3
11th May 2010, 07:28 PM
Congrats drew on your 130 can you post up some pics ? Who'd you buy from I have bought one from Australs hope it's on a semi diwn to Vic in the next couple of days !

drew
11th May 2010, 07:37 PM
Thanks dullbird , 2 trips to toowooba 3 to brisbane its getting repaired under waranty in brisbane , they need the car for 4 to 5 days dealers have been good . My last name is murphy and that LAW always relates to me , have owned a series 2 and i love my new landy my eldest son owns a td5 wagon and hes just left on a trip around aus, just hoping they can sort it out without to many problems.

drew
11th May 2010, 07:58 PM
Gday pc3

brought it from southern cross in toowooba only place that i could get a white cab chasis before june,starting to build a tray while its getting repaired will post some photos when i get it all up and going , i have been telling myself i got the one with crooked doors but great engine gear box and diffs and everything else that goes wrong for others wont for me

pc3
11th May 2010, 08:15 PM
Drew don't worry I am expecting to have some issues. It is not good enough given there so expensive. But defenders are what they are!

Landy Smurf
11th May 2010, 08:20 PM
congrats on a new defender sorry to hear about the door

one_iota
11th May 2010, 08:22 PM
Doors not shutting and panel misalignment can be fixed... you'd just wish that they did it in the factory before shipping them out.

drew
11th May 2010, 08:35 PM
LEGENDARY thats what they are pc3, have since looked at 100 other defenders and not one has doors like mine so it kind of makes it one of a kind .Just hate the thought of pulling the doors off getting repaired and repainted had some guys in the know and they reckon the only way to fix it was pull the whole car to bits and put it back togrther straight .

drew
11th May 2010, 08:50 PM
thanks schmierer ,

was told one iota,that all the panels would have to come off then adjust the fire wall then realign all panels and doors as well as the roof to do it properly who wants to do that to a new car ? landrover suggested elongate the holes in the door ( dont think so) apparently the doors are bieng pulled apart and put back together and resprayed will wait to see the outcome in a couple of days

one_iota
11th May 2010, 09:10 PM
oooh nasty :(

here is a link to the work shop manual describing the acceptable tolerances :

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=7&id=83

I'm surprised that they have to start at the firewall and work out from there...that is a serious rebuild.

Worthy of a replacement vehicle I reckon.

dmdigital
11th May 2010, 09:17 PM
Welcome Drew.

That all sounds very drastic. The door alignment is via slotted holes in the A and B pillars where the hinges bolt on and in the striker plates. There's a good (almost) 2cm of play in the pillar slots and the strikers should be shimmed if needed. I had to adjust the doors on mine in order to fit the checker plate to the sills.

The gap between door and A/B/C-pillar and to the sill is 7-11mm with the gap between roof and door of 5-9mm. This is the with a tolerance of +/-2mm to parallel with the sill.

There's a lot of tolerance allowed in a Defenders panels...

digger
12th May 2010, 10:03 AM
pm/email sent re possible parts

The ho har's
12th May 2010, 04:36 PM
AAHHH Land Rover tolerances don't you love them;)


Mrs hh:angel:

drew
12th May 2010, 05:19 PM
The defender is ready to pick up tomorrow afternoon apparently every second defender sold has to have the doors adjusted, my front passenger was the worst they have seen for a long time, its just that it should have been done on pre delivery (not to worry) look foward to the drive home tomorrow !!!!