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Bushie
17th May 2010, 06:23 PM
This has just come out on email from 4WDNSW&ACT except the links didn't work
Snatch straps
Draft regulation impact statement (http://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/980584)
Word doc (http://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/item.phtml?itemId=980584&nodeId=188277a7426f91eab1a64b053b48f65d&fn=Regulation%20Impact%20Statement%20%28Draft%29%2 0-%20Motor%20Vehicle%20Recovery%20Straps.doc)
Martyn
Zute
17th May 2010, 10:57 PM
Yep, putting a lable on them telling people that they are dangerous will stop any deaths from miss use.
Now if we can only teach people to read labels.:(
ADMIRAL
18th May 2010, 12:11 AM
Out of all of that, they believe a label will stop the misuse of snatch straps ! What is incredible, is that if the straps failed rather than ripping the poorly chosen tow points off the vehicle, no one would get hurt.
We could waffle on about checking vehicles for correctly rated recovery points, but if they cannot detect bald tyres, what hope have we got of detecting and correcting tow points ?!
The label may achieve something though. It will probably limit the manufacturers liability should some idiot use the strap inappropriately.
Bushie
18th May 2010, 07:38 AM
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The label may achieve something though. It will probably limit the manufacturers liability should some idiot use the strap inappropriately.
In todays litigious society even that would be a plus :o people taking responsibility for their own actions :D:D
Martyn
Shonky
18th May 2010, 07:50 AM
A label won't stop the idiots being idiots, but it will have benefit for those who don't know any better.
My mum drives a 4WD and there is nothing stopping her from buying a snatch strap. I doubt she knows how to safely use one though! She would probably tie it to the bullbar with a nice bow!
A warning label might prevent that from happening, or at least scare her enough to call me and ask how to do it properly. ;)
It can't hurt, and as others have said it puts the onus squarely on the user.
Redback
18th May 2010, 09:01 AM
How do you say it;
Covering ones arse:mad:
You can't put brains in statues;)
Baz.
ADMIRAL
1st June 2010, 10:38 AM
Hi Guys,
A draft of the proposed regulation can be found at Draft Regulation Impact Statement - motor vehicle recovery straps (http://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/980584) http:www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/980854. Just go to the product safety site if you have trouble with the address.
Once you sort through all the arse covering, the actual regulatory bit is right at the end.
It may improve the labelling of snatch straps, but is unlikely to stop inappropriate use by attachment to towballs and tie down hooks. As has already been discussed, the type of individual likely to take unacceptable risks, is not likely to be influenced by any of this.
Ausfree
1st June 2010, 06:16 PM
Well, as they say, "if at first it doesn't work, read the instructions". I guess its a bit late after the towball you have tied off too has snapped off and gone through somebody's windscreen!!!;)
Mauro R.
23rd August 2010, 02:24 AM
Hi All!
Labels on straps are not enough for a safe recovery, adding warning/load tag on recovery points wouldnt do bad either.
Straps labels can be confusing too, unless a standard to be used by all is agreed; some manufacturer uses MBS and others WLL for a strap that basically should be used on same class of vehicle but one has safe working limits built in while the other doesn't: which one is the right one and at which rating?
Ciao!
Mauro
Ace
23rd September 2010, 03:56 PM
as mentioned above its not so much the strap that is dangerous. its poorly made recovery points and tie down points that are used as recovery points.
Unfortunately there is nothing about a recovery point that can affect a vehicles roadworthyness so failing a vehicle because its recovery point isnt up to scratch isnt practical, especially since most vehicle recovery points wont get used as alot of 4wd's never go off road.
Education is the key, but you cant make everyone who buys a 4wd do a 4wd course and its impossible for everyone who sells snatch straps to go out and make sure the persons vehicle is adequately set up to use them.
matt
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