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[Chucaro]

I have been enjoying this forum for long time having the benefits of not only enrich my knowledge about many topics (not only Land Rover) but also have the pleasure of meeting very nice people and made very good friends.
AULRO it is more than a forum, it is a community and medium for be in touch with friends, share the good times and support each other during thought times in our life.

Couple days ago THIS (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/105442-whats-go-these-new-ads.html) thread was posted about the adds with many comments and some of them complaining about the adds.

I guess that the best way to address the problem it is by subscribing to the forum.
I propose to make a target of 300 new subscriptions by the 15 of June and we ask Inc to keep us informed on the progress of it.

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[MickS]

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[Chucaro]

Thanks for the correction, my brain was not in gear :D
Now, Don Pedro can make this thread stick and in bold flashing letters :D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I'd LOVE to have bold and flashing titles;):D

[Landy Smurf]

good work its a small price to pay for the amount of help you get here

[richard4u2]

well actually i dont mind the adds as i have clicked on some when looking for info

[p38arover]

It's the bloody Vodaphone ad that's the mongrel.

[Chucaro]

It's the bloody Vodaphone ad that's the mongrel.

Ok, we negotiate, ask Inc how many subscriptions will take to remove the add ;)

[flagg]

Already being a subscriber, I upped mine to silver in support :cool:

...does that count?

[Landy Smurf]

that counts for sure in my books good on ya mate

[Bushie]

Silver Subscriber lifts access above Subscriber level. this includes even more message space, gallery space and other nice features! with No Auto renewl each year. - $55

Standard lifts access to Subscriber level. this includes increased message space, gallery space and heaps of other little nice features! - $27.50My silver subscription is just about to expire, the two descriptions above are, not very descriptive. What are the benefits of silver v gold v standard other than supporting the site.


Martyn

[Chucaro]

There are now 86 views in this thread, I just wonder how many viewers flicked the plastic card :angel:

[flagg]

My silver subscription is just about to expire, the two descriptions above are, not very descriptive. What are the benefits of silver v gold v standard other than supporting the site.


If you don't have to wait 60secs between searches it might well be worth it!

[inside]

You know back in the old days things were put on the internet for the good of the community, you make a website about a hobby etc and shared the information hoping it would help someone one day.

These days it seems everything on the net has to make money, it needs ads to cover the costs, it's got to make money or it's not worthwhile. It makes you wonder when unlimited disk space, unlimited traffic, unlimited domains hosting, unlimited MySQL(v.4/5) databases, unlimited PostgreSQL cost you all of $7 US (http://www.awardspace.com/) a month just why is there a need for ads?

I have subscribed in the past and I have donated to this site, not because I'm under the illusion it's a huge expense to run just because it is run well and people should be rewarded in life for doing things well. Saying that I think all subscribers should see no ads, they give money to cover the running costs so they should have the choice to turn them off.

[d@rk51d3]

There are now 86 views in this thread, I just wonder how many viewers flicked the plastic card :angel:

Only because my subby just expired. ;)

[MickS]

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Where did my post go?

[VladTepes]

You know back in the old days things were put on the internet for the good of the community, you make a website about a hobby etc and shared the information hoping it would help someone one day.

These days it seems everything on the net has to make money, it needs ads to cover the costs, it's got to make money or it's not worthwhile. It makes you wonder when unlimited disk space, unlimited traffic, unlimited domains hosting, unlimited MySQL(v.4/5) databases, unlimited PostgreSQL cost you all of $7 US (http://www.awardspace.com/) a month just why is there a need for ads?


Don't be naive.

Do you think there's a heap of companies out there providing free services purely for the warm and fuzzy feeling they get from doing so?

Nothing is free.

All those so called "free" services you mention are actually funded by..... advertisers.

[Cap]

Thanks for the reminder... I always keep forgetting... so now I have subscribed ;)

[LandyAndy]

Thanks for the thread Chucaro.
Subscriptions are a good way to support AULRO.
There is another way.If anybody can donate legitimate items we can auction or raffle we can raise good money for AULRO.
An example over the last few weeks we held an auction.Tombie2 donated 2 flash tunes for the TD5 mojo.We auctioned them and raised $840 towards the running of AULRO.
If you can offer anything,contact any of the moderators via PM.
Thanks
Andrew

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

For the benefit of Inside,although this website is free there are quite a few costs involved in keeping it running,first up there is the computer server that is the thing that holds all the programme,it cost and has had to be upgraded at least 3 times to my knowledge as this site has grown,this can be in the region of several $K's, then the is the band-width rental,to be able to get all of this site out there,it costs?? so even in computer dummies language that is why donation/subscriptions are needed, to keep in a free world wide service run for the benefit of Landrover Owners in Aust.

hope that is of some help :)


cheers

[Ausfree]

I notice that a few people who have posted on this thread are not subscribers............soon to be remedied, no doubt!!!!:):)

[Chucaro]

Yes and also 298 people read the post ;)
The cost is less than 2 cartons of beer, come on members !! put the money were your heart is :)

[d@rk51d3]

Yes and also 298 people read the post ;)
The cost is less than 2 cartons of beer, come on members !! put the money were your heart is :)

Jeez, you must get cheap beer.:o

[incisor]

These days it seems everything on the net has to make money, it needs ads to cover the costs, it's got to make money or it's not worthwhile. It makes you wonder when unlimited disk space, unlimited traffic, unlimited domains hosting, unlimited MySQL(v.4/5) databases, unlimited PostgreSQL cost you all of $7 US (http://www.awardspace.com/) a month just why is there a need for ads?
aulro.com outgrew that style of service many years ago

in reality you can have unlimited everything for 10 bucks a month

except

cpu cycles

in the last 12 months aulro.com pumped out 1.8 terrabytes of info

to do that you need a dedicated server or two and then enough bandwidth to do it mainly because most of that data is database based so you need the horsepower to look it up, then serve it up.

price 4RU of rack space for 2 servers, then a swag of bandwidth and your $7 wouldnt buy you a full minute of service..

but wait there is more !

you need a server or two !

a sun t1000 cost me $8000 with a few years left on the monthly lease payments and there is the ibm intel based server that cost me several grand that i only just finished the payments on...

i hate to burst your bubble sport but subscriptions do not go within a cooeee of paying for this place much less the time people invest in running it.

if it was about money it would have died years ago.....

subscribers don't cop the google adverts in the middle of the posts.

if i drop all the adverts to subscribers the place would close because i simply cant pay what it costs to run out of my back pocket anymore...

it would have died ages ago if it was not for the subscribers and supporters that have helped me keep the joint alive.


thanks for the thread and for supporting those that invest their time and money to bring you this service.

[LandyAndy]

aulro.com outgrew that style of service many years ago

in reality you can have unlimited everything for 10 bucks a month

except

cpu cycles

in the last 12 months aulro.com pumped out 1.8 terrabytes of info

to do that you need a dedicated server or two and then enough bandwidth to do it mainly because most of that data is database based so you need the horsepower to look it up, then serve it up.

price 4RU of rack space for 2 servers, then a swag of bandwidth and your $7 wouldnt buy you a full minute of service..

but wait there is more !

you need a server or two !

a sun t1000 cost me $8000 with a few years left on the monthly lease payments and there is the ibm intel based server that cost me several grand that i only just finished the payments on...

i hate to burst your bubble sport but subscriptions do not go within a cooeee of paying for this place much less the time people invest in running it.

if it was about money it would have died years ago.....

subscribers don't cop the google adverts in the middle of the posts.

if i drop all the adverts to subscribers the place would close because i simply cant pay what it costs to run out of my back pocket anymore...

it would have died ages ago if it was not for the subscribers and supporters that have helped me keep the joint alive.


thanks for the thread and for supporting those that invest their time and money to bring you this service.


DIG DEEP IF YOU ENJOY AULRO!!!!!!
Andrew

[Chucaro]

Inc, can I ask you how it is going so far the subcriptions in the forum since we posted this thread?

[HBWC]

thanks dave and subscribe people if i can a ford it on a pension you can

[incisor]

i have asked the advert supplier to turn off the drop down style adverts.

that will have repercussions money wise as he duly reminded me in his reply but we will see how it goes...

[SimonM]

I just subscribed as I have already had helpful advice and I know I will need a lot more ;).

A great site and bugger all money to subscribe considering what you get.

[incisor]

Inc, can I ask you how it is going so far the subcriptions in the forum since we posted this thread?

6 that i can see...

[Chucaro]

We need 30 new subscriptions by tomorrow night just to have a target, and then we hope to have the 300 by mid of next month ;)

[MickS]

With over 6,000 active members...if they all chipped in $1 per month per annum....that's a fair bit of dosh there. Most people would have $12 sitting in the coin tray in their car...

[inside]

price 4RU of rack space for 2 servers, then a swag of bandwidth and your $7 wouldnt buy you a full minute of service..
How about all this dedicated to AULRO:

8x 2.66ghz processors / 16 total cores with hyperthreading
16GB DDR3 ECC-Registered Memory
4x73GB 15,000 RPM Drives
RAID-10
2,000 GB Bandwidth
100 Mps Port
cPanel/WHM
LITESPEED WEB SERVER
CentOS
R1 Hourly Backups of all files with FREE matching RAID storage
Complete optimization to run vBulletin exclusively.

$1500US a year. I'll be honest I know little about running a forum, just questioning why a relative small site such as AULRO costs so much in dedicated hardware, but it's your site so don't feel obliged to answer.

I've given a 150 dollars or so to this site and likely will again if the quality of information continues at it's usual high standard. I understand and appreciate it takes a lot of effort to keep the lights on. TBO I think LRA should be approached for their support, they certainly benefit when it comes to pre sales advice and after sales support.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

I've put together x2 aulro gatherings which I got 4wdtv to attend so I can get aulro some exposed air time to other potential lr owners. Just wondering or would be good to know how the tv exposure went with bringing in new members. Was there any rise in joining new members while the show was on? If good I can talk to Simon and work something out to get some more exposure for the site.

[p38arover]

Thanks Chucaro, you reminded me that my sub had lapsed - now fixed.

[TerryO]

I have been meaning to subscribe for sometime and this thread has reminded me to do so. Sorry I haven't got around to doing it sooner Dave.

Why subscribe? because I know I have saved a fortune since becoming a Land Rover owner because of information I found on this website. Not only that I have had some excellent times and met some really good like minded people through this website and that has to worth at least the small amount of money it costs for a subscription.

So I'm more then happy to contribute towards paying for some bandwidth I hope other members also see the value as well in supporting this website.

cheers,
Terry

[Sparksdisco]

just wondering if all the clubs that use this site actualy pay for this service?

if they do then that is great and im happy for them to use bandwith for there private chat.

if they dont then why are they using bandwith that the general ALURO member canot access?

love the site and hope it grows and grows

PS (bring back the games) please :D:D:D

[Chucaro]

It was not my intention to create a division between the members that contribute and the ones that not and I do not thinkit is not within the "spirit"of our members and admin.

There are many people up there that are going trough some difficulties and will be unfair to point them with the finger just because a few dollars.

We have to trust turst those who are in a better economic situation are going to suscribe within the next couple of weeks.

I know that the others will follow as sonn as they can afford it :)

Keep the momentum going and do not let this thread died :)

[incisor]

Complete optimization to run vBulletin exclusively.

i understand the sentiment but aulro is a bit of oddball compared to most forum based sites due to the amount of data it puts out for the size of the userbase.

aulro uses quite a few other things in the background to manage the data it serves up thru the front end. vbulletin is just the front end, one wonders how would it cope with mysql+sudohin, sendmail or postfix, pop and a few of the things needed to do the things it does.

other little things like managed servers mostly not allowing ssh access etc etc complicate it as well.

i have tried many of the different tiers of manged hosting solutions and nothing coped to my liking so i went down the track of having my own servers in rackspace in brisbane so i can get there is something goes caput etc etc etc

the package has proved to be very reliable till now but is suffering under the current loads

i have had several other professionals look at the aulro setup to see if they can get it to run more efficiently / quicker etc and it is about as good as it can get on what it is running on taking on board all they suggested...

next stage upgrade is already under way and about to be setup in the rack in brisvegas in the next few weeks..

[Chucaro]

I was moderator in a photography forum for long time and the only what I can say is that a dedicated moderator/admin dedicate a lot of his/her time to supervise and make sure that all is running smooth.

His/her time was free in that forum without any conditions attached. There never was intention to collect money from the members to pay for their time, but the members never expected that the moderators or the admin team have to be out of pocket for the benefilt of all the membership.

AULRO it is huge and for sure need more time dedicate for the running of it, so it will be fair if we the members pay for the running cost of it and be grateful for the volunatry work that the moderators.admin do for the site.

Just my thought :)

[incisor]

this issue needs to settle down a little

i use adverts to pay for the place as i haven't found another solution to paying for it.

have tried subscriptions and special areas, didnt work, i ended up with bigger bills.

so now, the advertising contractor sends me some $'s, google sends me some $'s, ebay sends me some $'s, and the likes of tombie and many others that donate things from time to time gives me some $'s as well.

the world was a somewhat happy place until drop down adverts appeared.

i dont go round hassling people for money, i barely use the place to help my own business and what i have done, i was poked and prodded into doing. but i now run it under my business name as it has income coming in from the advertising.

i do not ask people to start threads like this and although i deeply appreciate the assist, i cop crap from those that have a problem with the place being what it is.

that is fine, i see past it but i get a bit sick of having to deal with it.

i have asked for the drop down adverts to be removed and we will see how that affects the $'s coming in.

the place is what it is, it will continue as it is as long as i own it.

[Landy Smurf]

thanks alot for what you have done,it has changed my life for the better and for that i thank you

[TerryO]

In actual fact it is becuase of this website that I own Land Rovers, I Googled Four wheel drive vehicle comparisions or something like that and ended up here.

I was originally looking at a Toyota or Nissan but after reading all about Land Rovers and how they compare with other vehicles I decided on going out and driving a Disco to see what all the fuss was about. Now I own two of the buggers. :D

Anyway this website is an excellent place to meet people find out about your vehicles and any other related 4x4 activities. The best thing about it though is the people on it. Nearly every other 4x4 website I have visited is full of nongs.

Websites like this aren't cheap to keep running, I should know I have my own community / news sport related website that takes up alot of my time and financial resources to run. I take my hat off to Dave and the team of Mods for keeping it going and making it a welcoming and friendly place to visit and that has to be worth a few bucks a year as far as I'm concerned.

cheers,
Terry

[Cap]

I take my hat off to Dave and the team of Mods for keeping it going and making it a welcoming and friendly place to visit and that has to be worth a few bucks a year as far as I'm concerned.

I think this is a very good point and agree whole heartedly, its not just the running expenses, but also the hours and hours of work and dedication by these individuals that make the site what it is.

As for the drop down adverts, yes they were giving me the irrits as well as I would accidentally scroll over them... maybe a simple click to activate the advert as opposed to scroll over would fix the issue. BUT having said that, I prefer the ads any day and have the forum still operate.

[pohm66]

Touche TerryO and Stooge.

I was interested in LRs, did a www search, found the forum, sussed out the quirks of Discos and ended up buying a vehicle off a member and haven't looked back.

My philosophy is that good deeds need to be rewarded and I treat, especially this, subscrption as an investment in the future of AULRO.

Thanks to all involved in this site.

[RaZz0R]

in reality you can have unlimited everything for 10 bucks a month
except
cpu cycles

in the last 12 months aulro.com pumped out 1.8 terrabytes of info

you need a server or two !

a sun t1000 cost me $8000 with a few years left on the monthly lease payments and there is the ibm intel based server that cost me several grand that i only just finished the payments on...

Dude! 8k & 7k?? Hate to say but you got ripped big time! I am a IT infrastructure specialist & deal with these types & HP\IBM servers all day.

For about 4 or maybe close 5k alone you could have gotten 1 server in say 2ru running Sata Raid 0+1 or straight out 5 running terrabyte drives, can be done lots cheaper as well if you had attached storage shared between the main & a fail over host. (I know as I spec up projects worth millions in hardware & software for Citrix.com farms & Vmware.com farms, not to mention Microsoft server clusters.)

Perhaps next time you are looking at such things drop me a message as I am more then sure I could help!

[incisor]

Dude! 8k & 7k?? Hate to say but you got ripped big time! I am a IT infrastructure specialist & deal with these types & HP\IBM servers all day.!

the sun t1000 with the extras was 8k..

let me know where you can get them for 4k and i will buy a dozen..

and i buy hp/ibm gear at tier one myself but the pc based server sort of cant cope thats why the sun t1000 :P

[trobbo]

I went to subscribe then it asked me to pay by paypal. Is paypal the only payment method accepted for subscriptions?

[incisor]

I went to subscribe then it asked me to pay by paypal. Is paypal the only payment method accepted for subscriptions?
Australian Land Rover Owners - FAQ: AULRO Subscriptions (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/faq.php?faq=sunscriptionsexplained#faq_sublevelsan drates)

[Banjo_pluker]

I do admire how much work is done behind the scenes on this forum (I don't realy know but could only imagine)

i only read what I want to read, I would ashume the mods would have to read everything rather than scan over things,

PS I like your new avatar Incisor

[RaZz0R]

the sun t1000 with the extras was 8k..

let me know where you can get them for 4k and i will buy a dozen..

and i buy hp/ibm gear at tier one myself but the pc based server sort of cant cope thats why the sun t1000 :P

never liked Sun - pref HP\IBm - but for 4k I can build you a damn good web server with fail-over in all area's :) But when the time comes ;) the offers there, till then I am starting my new contract soon so I'll chip in then