AIR POWERED CAR

[jx2mad]

Tata is producing an air powered car to be released later this year. Range of 200-300 km between recharge with compressed air. Speed up to 105 k/h. Zero pollution and exhaust discharge cold enough to act as cooler for air conditioner.

[Fluids]

Tata is producing an air powered car to be released later this year. Range of 200-300 km between recharge with compressed air. Speed up to 105 k/h. Zero pollution and exhaust discharge cold enough to act as cooler for air conditioner.


... or, seat your mother-in-law in the back seat and get limitless range and speeds of 160+km/hr without any need to recharge ! :D

Only issue is the exhaust will then be hot air ... OK for winter I guess ! ??

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Kev..

[bee utey]

According to the laws of HHO cells, it will be refuelled by a chinese knock-off ARB compressor.:D

[Landy Smurf]

but what about the energy required to fill the tank up with compressed air or does it recharge as it goes i would think it would have to be a fairly big tank

[Hymie]

A big Vindaloo and plumbing off the drivers seat?

[WhiteD3]

A uni in Australia has a protoype running around. The idea is you charge it overnight using a low speed, low power compressor.

Much lower carbon footprint then a combustion engine even using the grid to power the compressor.

[Basil135]

Maybe a Vindaloo for the drag races, and baked beans for normal commuting...:D

[Landy Smurf]

i would imagine it would have good acceleration

[Cap]

at this rate, if cars are going air powered we will be going backwards and start using hot air ballons for air transportation :p

[Landy Smurf]

bring back the steam powerd car

[isuzurover]

A uni in Australia has a protoype running around. The idea is you charge it overnight using a low speed, low power compressor.

Much lower carbon footprint then a combustion engine even using the grid to power the compressor.

Exactly - there are a few around.

Most working models seem to be limited to ~60 km/h and a range of ~100 km. Drag increases with velocity squared, so they get a much longer range if they travel slower.

They work in much the same way as plug in electric vehicles.

[WedWon]

My current car is air powered:

It sucks in air for the atmosphere, adds 1/14th the volume of a special refined additive and sets fire to it. The resulting contained expolsion is enough to propell the vehicle forward.:D:D:D

Has anybody else heard of this technology:p:p:p

Ha Ha

Jason

[Ausfree]

If the technology works (and its a big IF) the oil companies will buy it out and shelve it!!!!;) you can't interfere with the mulinationals profits you know!!!!:mad:

[isuzurover]

If the technology works (and its a big IF) the oil companies will buy it out and shelve it!!!!;) you can't interfere with the mulinationals profits you know!!!!:mad:

Bulldust.

Like plug in electrics, they will fill a niche. There are already plug in electrics with swappable batteries, so instead of pulling into a servo and filling up with petrol/diesel, you can pull in and have your batteries swapped with charged ones. You could do the same with air tanks. The servos already have swap&go BBQ gas...

The oil companies will just diversify. Until recently, BP was the largest manufacturer of solar panels in AU for a long time. They are also investing heavily in biofuels at the moment.

The oil companies also know that it will be a LONG time before we can come up with a viable option to replace diesel/oil for long distance transport

[JDNSW]

Compressed air engines and vehicles have been around for at least 150 years (usually in limited operations, for example in factories where dangerous materials made steam or IC or even electric impractical). As a method of energy storage it is inherently fairly efficient so it is difficult to see where improvements can come other than in simply using higher pressure storage.

I don't know what pressure is needed to get a useful range, but I suspect it is pretty high. And there are serious risks in handling high pressure air (above 2,000psi).

John

[one_iota]

Interesting:

Compressed air car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Hardchina]

If the technology works (and its a big IF) the oil companies will buy it out and shelve it!!!!;) you can't interfere with the mulinationals profits you know!!!!:mad:


I think it's the governments of the world who will be shelving this sort of technology.

If it costs $3.00 to recharge the tank.... well the Gmen are missing out on around $40.00 of tax, which is probably what they get with petrol / diesel etc..

I can see Hydrogen fuel been pushed as the fuel of the future because motorists are forced to refuel at servo's and.... bada-bing they control that market and will get their tax.

[vnx205]

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I don't know what pressure is needed to get a useful range, but I suspect it is pretty high. And there are serious risks in handling high pressure air (above 2,000psi).

John

Some articles are talking about 300 bar or 4,500 psi.

[Ausfree]

I think it's the governments of the world who will be shelving this sort of technology.

If it costs $3.00 to recharge the tank.... well the Gmen are missing out on around $40.00 of tax, which is probably what they get with petrol / diesel etc..

I can see Hydrogen fuel been pushed as the fuel of the future because motorists are forced to refuel at servo's and.... bada-bing they control that market and will get their tax. I agree, you would have to be naive to believe any corporation/government with a vested interest in the status quo would allow some new "breakthrough" technology to take away their profits. Look at LPG the Government were/are giving financial benefits for people to convert their cars to LPG and now as from next year...........yes, it had to come........ they are putting a tax on it which will slowly increase over the next few years.This has serious repercussions in the Taxi/Hire Car industry who have no choice but to pass the costs on to the public!!! Government is not going to miss out on a good thing are they??:mad:

[isuzurover]

I don't know what pressure is needed to get a useful range, but I suspect it is pretty high. And there are serious risks in handling high pressure air (above 2,000psi).

John

As mentioned - the cars all seem to be using 300-350bar. The main advances seem to be making the car and the tanks as light weight as possible (kevlar/carbon fibre air tanks).

There is also some room to optimise the compressor design for the application.

[WhiteD3]

If the technology works (and its a big IF) the oil companies will buy it out and shelve it!!!!;) you can't interfere with the multinationals profits you know!!!!:mad:

Nothing like a conspiracy theory. I'll discuss it with Elvis next time I'm in McDonald's:D

[Hardchina]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/216.jpg

see above for how much they have to lose :(

but it's ok, they've figured out another way to suck the people dry if we do go electric.. (love how they describe it, shonky bastards)

snipped from here.. Architecture of Australia's tax and transfer system (http://taxreview.treasury.gov.au/content/Paper.aspx'doc=html/publications/papers/report/section_9-03.htm)



For example, fuel excise rates do not substantially change the decision to drive in particular vehicles (to reduce road damage), in particular areas (to reduce noise pollution) or at particular times (to reduce congestion). Fuel excise levied for social or environmental objectives also leads to higher burdens on activities where there may be no costs on others. New technologies (such as 'etag' and the global positioning system) are increasing the viability of more efficient direct charging mechanisms.


Get ready to be tagged like cattle :(

I wonder.... when or if they they do bring this in ... will they drop the excise on fossil fuels?

[WhiteD3]

I agree, you would have to be naive to believe any corporation/government with a vested interest in the status quo would allow some new "breakthrough" technology to take away their profits. Look at LPG the Government were/are giving financial benefits for people to convert their cars to LPG and now as from next year...........yes, it had to come........ they are putting a tax on it which will slowly increase over the next few years.This has serious repercussions in the Taxi/Hire Car industry who have no choice but to pass the costs on to the public!!! Government is not going to miss out on a good thing are they??:mad:

This must be a mistake then

Newsroom : Tesla Motors and Toyota Motor Corporation Intend to Work Jointly on EV Development, TMC to Invest in Tesla / Toyota (http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/tesla-motors-and-toyota-motor-159048.aspx)

[Ausfree]

This must be a mistake then

Newsroom : Tesla Motors and Toyota Motor Corporation Intend to Work Jointly on EV Development, TMC to Invest in Tesla / Toyota (http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/tesla-motors-and-toyota-motor-159048.aspx)
Beside the point!!!! Actually air engines have been around for 200 years!!:)

Compressed-air engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed-air_engine)

[Rangier Rover]

They should go like the wind.;)

YouTube- Air Car (1 of 2) from France

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=qwpR4JpVs74&feature=related)

I think they will have their place in the near future.

For example, I am looking into a substantial solar and wind generation set up here in the near future. Harness some of this energy in the form compressed air?

[BMKal]

I think it's the governments of the world who will be shelving this sort of technology.

If it costs $3.00 to recharge the tank.... well the Gmen are missing out on around $40.00 of tax, which is probably what they get with petrol / diesel etc..

Well, if Krudd is still around, this will provide him with the perfect opportunity to introduce a tax on air consumption. :wasntme:

[Michael2]

What about air & electricity!!!

Land Rover have entered into a partnership to develop a jet engine to generate electricity to extend the range of electric Land Rovers. I suppose it could also power up a pump.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/55067/jaguar-land-rover-win-uk-funding-for-jet-turbine-ev-research/

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/bladon-jets-micro-turbine_file_001-625x406.jpg

[Hardchina]

What about air & electricity!!!


Land Rover have entered into a partnership to develop a jet engine to generate electricity to extend the range of electric Land Rovers. I suppose it could also power up a pump.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/55067/jaguar-land-rover-win-uk-funding-for-jet-turbine-ev-research/

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/bladon-jets-micro-turbine_file_001-625x406.jpg


Jet powered powered power station under the bonnet, that can provide enough power for the car when the Batteries are flat :cool:
Small, light weight, runs on various fuel, proven technology...

It's the future, without a doubt.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/176.jpg