De Havilland

[VladTepes]

There were a packet
de Havilland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland#Aircraft)
but here's some of my favourites:

Tiger Moth
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/193.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Chipmunk
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Dove
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Drover
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Heron
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Caribou
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/



Vampire
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Sea Venom
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Sea Vixen
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/194.jpg


We have a good collection of De Havilland aircraft here:
Queensland Air Museum Home Page (http://www.qam.com.au/default.htm)
from where many of the above photos were taken.


but wait, there's more!

Dragon Rapide & Dragonfly
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/195.jpg

Comet (a racing aeroplane)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/196.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/197.jpg

Comet (as you can see, a different one!)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/198.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/199.jpg




and saving the BEST until (almost) last:


Mosquito
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/200.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/201.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/202.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/203.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/204.jpg



and just to prove that, despite the above, they could design an ugly aircraft if they put their mind to it...

Flamingo
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[JDNSW]

You missed a few significant ones. DeHavilland's fortunes were founded on the WW1 DH4 (although DeHavilland was the designer not the manufacturer). Their first success as a manufacturer was the DH Moth, with the even more successful DH60 Gipsy Moth, now with a DeHavilland engine as well as airframe, which was the aircraft that the Tiger Moth was a developed from.

Then there was the DH86 airliner, developed especially for Qantas to start international services, one of the better biplane airliners of the thirties.

The Albatross was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever designed, and was the immediate predecessor of the Mosquito, more so than the Comet was. Consider that compared to the DC3, the then most popular modern airliner, first flying only two years earlier, the Albatross was 30% faster and 50% heavier - with the same total power, indicating how much better the aerodynamics were.

John

[Bearman]

Great aircraft. Quite a few ringers/stockmen owe their lives to the Drover which was operated by the RFDS in the 50's and 60's. I'm pretty sure Dehavilland was also the first commercial jet airliner produced in 1952 (the ill fated Comet). I would love to own one of the drovers but unfortunately my budget only stretches to a Dehavilland tinny which I have owned for many years.

[clean32]

i have quite a few hours in the DH89, as well as the tiger moth and chipmonk.

ground handling was always fun, you never had enough hands. swing and float were the other 2 problems as well as never let the fat guy sit down the back

[VladTepes]

At l;east one of the planes we have at QAM is ex RFDS

[Bearman]

i have quite a few hours in the DH89, as well as the tiger moth and chipmonk.

ground handling was always fun, you never had enough hands. swing and float were the other 2 problems as well as never let the fat guy sit down the back

Flying the Rapide must have been an experience. Where did you get to fly one of them.?

[Bearman]

I often wonder what happened to the Connair fleet of Doves and Herons. Connair was a small airline that used to do the Alice-Mt.Isa-Cairns run back in the 70's. One of their Herons had a prang on approach to Cairns airport back in the late 70's in bad weather and they folded afterwards.Connellan was based in Alice Springs and had a valuable contribution to early Aussie aviation history- look them up in google.

[clean32]

Flying the Rapide must have been an experience. Where did you get to fly one of them.?

AKU was / is based at Ardmore NZ not an aircraft to toss about but one you had to respect, more so for those of us who learnt in tin cans with heaps of stall buffeting and square wingtips, effective flaps etc

[JDNSW]

I am afraid my experience flying DH aircraft is limited to about half an hour in a Tiger Moth.

John

[Bearman]

AKU was / is based at Ardmore NZ not an aircraft to toss about but one you had to respect, more so for those of us who learnt in tin cans with heaps of stall buffeting and square wingtips, effective flaps etc

I reckon that would be an experience you will never forget. No luxuries like autopilot....Brian

[Bearman]

I am afraid my experience flying DH aircraft is limited to about half an hour in a Tiger Moth.

John

Yeah, me too. I was about 12, my Dad was ex RAAF and one of his mates at Dalby had a Tiger Moth cropduster. He took me for a ride and inverted it at about 500 feet. Here I was unside down looking down at the ground hanging from the seat belt. I had this warm feeling around the crotch area - yes I was that scared I wet myself. But I still loved that aircraft.....Brian

[clean32]

I reckon that would be an experience you will never forget. No luxuries like autopilot....Brian

i have never flowen with autopilot on.
had a more intresting times in SE asia, 101s 310s T28 ( what a tank) as well as bell rangers hues and R22s
i love the 310, not many do but i do nice hot ship.

[juddy]

There were a packet
de Havilland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland#Aircraft)
but here's some of my favourites:

Tiger Moth
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/193.jpg

http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/tiger-moth/VH-BKS-11.jpg

Chipmunk
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/chipmunk/VH-RVV-1.jpg

Dove
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/dove/VH-GVE-6.jpg

Drover
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/drover-fds/VH-FDS-4.jpg

Heron
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/heron/VH-KAM-17.jpg

Caribou
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/caribou/A4-173-2.jpg



Vampire
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/vampire-828/A79-828-1.jpg

Sea Venom
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/sea-venom-wz898/WZ898-1.jpg

Sea Vixen
http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/sea-vixen-xj490/XJ490-2.jpg

http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/sea-vixen-xj490/XJ490-7.jpg

http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/sea-vixen-xj490/XJ490-12.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/194.jpg


We have a good collection of De Havilland aircraft here:
Queensland Air Museum Home Page (http://www.qam.com.au/default.htm)
from where many of the above photos were taken.


but wait, there's more!

Dragon Rapide & Dragonfly
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/195.jpg

Comet (a racing aeroplane)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/196.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/197.jpg

Comet (as you can see, a different one!)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/198.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/199.jpg




and saving the BEST until (almost) last:


Mosquito
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/200.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/201.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/202.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/203.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/204.jpg



and just to prove that, despite the above, they could design an ugly aircraft if they put their mind to it...

Flamingo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/De_havilland_dh95_flamingo.jpg

Mosquito, what a great Aircraft, non currently flying which is a shame....

[vnx205]

Have you seen how the Mosquito was built? Someone who, like me, is into building wooden kayaks sent me this clip

YouTube- Mosquito Manufacturing 1944

[JDNSW]

Have you seen how the Mosquito was built? Someone who, like me, is into building wooden kayaks sent me this clip

YouTube- Mosquito Manufacturing 1944 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mGOLmWWbg)


And the interesting point is that the Vampire, their first jet aircraft, had a wooden forward fuselage!


John

[zulu Delta 534]

I was always under the impression that the Grumman Mohawk twin engine job the Yanks used in South Vietnam was also worked on heavily by DeHavilland, but that may be a fallacy
A mean little aircraft that had the capacity to carry an Infra Red pod underbelly that could detect life forms about 3000 feet below in dense jungle and differentiate between man and animal and also the sex of said animal by the body temperature given off. The pod was about the same length of the aircraft. Somewhere I have a shot of this device but so far I cant detect it!
Sorry about the quality of the following shots but if ever I go back I will try and do better.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/69.jpg
A reasonable assortment of vehicles, a USAF Ford Bronco, a US Army MUTT and a civvy CJ? jeep, possibly commandeered by the ROK.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/70.jpg
They also carried a variety of armament and landing with some of the assorted unexpended payload hanging below was somewhat dangerous so it was usually jettisoned.
The Pommy RAF put in an occasional appearance in their Dove and sometimes a NZ Bristol transport would grace us with its presence until they were replaced by Hercs.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/71.jpg
And of course one of the sturdiest workhorses the Yanks had in the theatre were the Otters and occasional Beavers.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/72.jpg

The Yanks also operated a number of Hovercraft out of Cat Lo and other bases and I am not too sure but I seem to remember these having a tie in with De Havilland also, but, then again...
Regards
Glen

[clean32]

Trivia

difference between a dove and a Devon? Nothing just a bump in the roof ( cockpit)
difference between raped and a dommani, nothing, dommani was for the air force

Did you know that the Gipsy series of motors which started out as a French upright 4 banger of 40 HP ended up as a supercharged inverted 6 pot, dry sumped with 600hp

oh and a good one for the pommy engineers. the gipsy was a French motor therefore it was metric ( nut bolts etc) now back in the day no pommy mechanic had metric spanners so DH made there own nuts and bolts , metric threads, witworth heads!

The Font TIMES NEW ROMAN ( i think its that one) was the De Havilland font, designed by de Havilland and used on all of there drawings and correspondence. it was quite a step forward in using a clear and clean font to eliminate communication errors especially as it was the fashion of the day to use fancy copperplate fonts which were not ideal for communication with journeymen

The picture in the previous post labeled "Dragon Rapide & Dragonfly"

There was no such aircraft as a dragon Rapide it was just Rapide, maybe it got confused with is 4 pot smaller sibling the dragon. Any way the picture is of a dommani and not a Rapide. Minor detail. wiki cant get it correct all the time

[VladTepes]

A bit OT but..

Times New Roman was a font designed for the Times newspaper of London in 1931, thus the name.

On the Dragon Rapide I disagree.

This site says
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/211.jpg

The De Havilland D.H.89 Dragon Rapide six/eight-passenger airliner was a scaled-down, twin engined version of the D.H.86 Dragon four-engined biplane airliner.de Havilland DH 89 Dragon Rapide performance and specifications (http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/dehavilland/4.htm)


This site says
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/212.jpg

The Dragon Rapide was a direct development of the Dragon, employing the same structure but having tapered wings,De Havilland D.H.89 Dragon Rapide - passenger, transport (http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/havilland_rapide.php)

and a book I have here agrees.

[VladTepes]

South Vietnam

Sorry about the quality of the following shots but if ever I go back IN TIME I will try and do better.

Glen

Yep I'm sure that's at the top of your list... not.

[clean32]

A bit OT but..

Times New Roman was a font designed for the Times newspaper of London in 1931, thus the name.

On the Dragon Rapide I disagree.

This site says
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/211.jpg
de Havilland DH 89 Dragon Rapide performance and specifications (http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/dehavilland/4.htm)


This site says
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/212.jpg
De Havilland D.H.89 Dragon Rapide - passenger, transport (http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/havilland_rapide.php)

and a book I have here agrees.

flight and maintance manuals disagree, as i said common perception

[mudmouse]

(Apoligies - hi-jack)

Glen, here's a few close ups of the Mohawk - and it's for sale ($175k)...same engines as the Bell UH-1D, H series, so a thirsty little bugger....


N631OV-1B Mohawk Spec (http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current%20Inventory/N631OV-1B%20Mohawk%20Spec.htm)

Matt


I was always under the impression that the Grumman Mohawk twin engine job the Yanks used in South Vietnam was also worked on heavily by DeHavilland, but that may be a fallacy
A mean little aircraft that had the capacity to carry an Infra Red pod underbelly that could detect life forms about 3000 feet below in dense jungle and differentiate between man and animal and also the sex of said animal by the body temperature given off. The pod was about the same length of the aircraft. Somewhere I have a shot of this device but so far I cant detect it!
Sorry about the quality of the following shots but if ever I go back I will try and do better.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/69.jpg
A reasonable assortment of vehicles, a USAF Ford Bronco, a US Army MUTT and a civvy CJ? jeep, possibly commandeered by the ROK.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/70.jpg
They also carried a variety of armament and landing with some of the assorted unexpended payload hanging below was somewhat dangerous so it was usually jettisoned.
The Pommy RAF put in an occasional appearance in their Dove and sometimes a NZ Bristol transport would grace us with its presence until they were replaced by Hercs.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/71.jpg
And of course one of the sturdiest workhorses the Yanks had in the theatre were the Otters and occasional Beavers.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/72.jpg

The Yanks also operated a number of Hovercraft out of Cat Lo and other bases and I am not too sure but I seem to remember these having a tie in with De Havilland also, but, then again...
Regards
Glen