18" Rims for Disco 4 3.0L : Sign up here!

[Disco4SE]

Hi Guys, I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to remind everyone that gghaggis has sourced some 18" rims for the 3.0Lt D4, but needs some more numbers to enable him to place an order.
Your tyre choice and off road ability will be greater and you will save money in the long run. Have a think about it.
Cheers, Craig

[mowog]

gghaggis

No doubt you will read this. I have sent you an email. I am in for 6 rims.

[gghaggis]

Thanks all,

Assuming that the original group are still interested, that makes 7 sets. Still a bit short of the 15 needed by GMAX. I'm going to relook at their Bonafide 18" rim and measure just how much would be needed to 'scrape' off the front caliper fins to fit - that or a set of spacers.

The steel rims I've been playing with are not a real possibility. They fit, but the offset required to clear the front of the calipers is not legal. I'm keeping the prototype set for playing off-road.

Still not a peep from Bowler :mad:

Cheers,

Gordon

[Graeme]

Assuming that the original group are still interested, that makes 7 sets. Still a bit short of the 15 needed by GMAX.
I'm probably a non-starter now due to the lack of LT tyres that don't rub combined with 17" now an option for me. It would be a different story if GY made MTRs in 265/65-18 but with 275/65-18 listed as 32.3" I'm not interested in fitting them. I will have taken action by next autumn in preparation for a possible outback trip, waiting as long as possible for more tyre and rim options to avoid changing brakes although I have 8 17" alloys staring at me every time I open the shed door.

[gghaggis]

Hope it works out for you Graeme. Personally, after having had both, I could never go back to the 17" brake package. I'll keep trying with the rims ............

Cheers,

Gordon

[Disco4SE]

Same Gordon, the brakes on the 3.0Lt are much better

[d3syd]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I have a set of OEM 17" wheels fitted with Cooper STT tyres that I use on my D3 when I go off road.

Question is will they fit on a D4 SE as I am thinking of upgrading, will they have trouble clearing the brake callipers?

Thanks guys.

[trobbo]

sorry they wont fit - you'll just have to sell them to me instead

[tempestv8]

They probably won't fit a D4 3.0 but most likely will be compatible with a D4 2.7 due to the smaller brakes on the less powerful model.

[d3syd]

sorry they wont fit - you'll just have to sell them to me instead

Damn, that's no good... might just have to then. I bought them from a guy in Melbourne who bought them from a guy in Townsville. Each of us have only used them a couple of times, so the tyres are still almost brand new. Going to be driving Sydney - Cape York - Sydney with them in 2 weeks time so maybe they will finally get some wear on them...


They probably won't fit a D4 3.0 but most likely will be compatible with a D4 2.7 due to the smaller brakes on the less powerful model.

Thing is the main reason why I want to upgrade to a D4 is for the 3.0, so looks like I'll have to sell the wheels once I upgrade.

I wonder if 18" rims will clear the callipers then. As it gets more and more difficult and expensive to get off road rubber the bigger the wheels.:(

[tempestv8]

As it gets more and more difficult and expensive to get off road rubber the bigger the wheels.:(

Yes, that was one of the deciding factors for me too, when I was in the market late last year. I settled for a Land Cruiser 200 Series. Yep yep, it's not a Land Rover but at least I can get tyres for 17" wheels more easily..... ;)

Whilst it has higher fuel consumption than a 3.0 TDV6, it can be chipped to produce more torque without loss of economy, and whatever the higher fuel consumption is, it would be offset easily by the cost of cheaper tyres. That's my thinking, anyway, but of course it's not a popular opinion here, which is entirely fair enough.

[rmp]

Yes, that was one of the deciding factors for me too, when I was in the market late last year. I settled for a Land Cruiser 200 Series. Yep yep, it's not a Land Rover but at least I can get tyres for 17" wheels more easily..... ;)

Whilst it has higher fuel consumption than a 3.0 TDV6, it can be chipped to produce more torque without loss of economy, and whatever the higher fuel consumption is, it would be offset easily by the cost of cheaper tyres. That's my thinking, anyway, but of course it's not a popular opinion here, which is entirely fair enough.

Speaking as a mod I'm quite happy to see fair and reasoned arguments in favour of the 200....made a few myself. This board has its favourite car but the people here are not one-eyed about it.

[CaverD3]

tempestv8 has just done what most Aus 4wd mags have said folk will do when concidering the D4.

LR still won't listen.:angel:

[ADMIRAL]

Horses for courses- I still maintain most owners will not get near the potential of their vehicles, and the difference in tyres/rims from 19 to 17" will have minimal impact on their use.

If the intended use is more serious.....a judgement call is required.

[Disco4SE]

So many posts about wheel sizes. I think that allot of people are forgetting the D4 3.0's capabilities with the 19" rims. Experienced 4WDers like gghaggis have seen first hand and compared other vehicles.
You need to weigh up the percentage of time that you are on the road and also when you are off road, what percentage of that time would be an advantage with larger tyres (same tread pattern).
When I did the sums and drove the 200 for a period of time, I went with the D4 3.0.

[ozscott]

I agree to an extent, but it is not the percentage so much as what you do with it when you are off road (if you go offroad that is of course) and what reliability and sheer ability mean to you. If you require the utmost of both reliability and ability then there is no argument that the higher the amount of black stuff on the rim and the better the choice of tyre patters AND carcass (eg Light Truck) means the smaller the rim the better.

Cheers

PS. Dont get the impression I/we are knocking the 19's per se, its just that you cannot argue that they are as good as smaller tyres for serious off road use.

[rmp]

I agree to an extent, but it is not the percentage so much as what you do with it when you are off road (if you go offroad that is of course) and what reliability and sheer ability mean to you. If you require the utmost of both reliability and ability then there is no argument that the higher the amount of black stuff on the rim and the better the choice of tyre patters AND carcass (eg Light Truck) means the smaller the rim the better.

Cheers

PS. Dont get the impression I/we are knocking the 19's per se, its just that you cannot argue that they are as good as smaller tyres for serious off road use.


Exactly right.

[mowog]

Lets look at a real world plan here.

My car is a 3.0l D4 with 20" wheels.

Next year I am planning a Savannah Way trip towing a 22' Off Road Van. I want to do some off road work but given that I have a 22' van in tow my options are limited as to what tracks I can take. However I may unhitch and explore.

Now I don't want to damage those nice 20" wheels which is why I am interested in the 18" wheel group buy.

But what if....

I buy a second hand set of 19-20" wheels and put some decent tyres on them. Now if I keep the pressures appropriate to the conditions am I really any worse off for not having 17's or 18's?

I wont care about some cosmetic rim damage because the bling wheels will be at home.

[gghaggis]

Lets look at a real world plan here.

My car is a 3.0l D4 with 20" wheels.

Next year I am planning a Savannah Way trip towing a 22' Off Road Van. I want to do some off road work but given that I have a 22' van in tow my options are limited as to what tracks I can take. However I may unhitch and explore.

Now I don't want to damage those nice 20" wheels which is why I am interested in the 18" wheel group buy.

But what if....

I buy a second hand set of 19-20" wheels and put some decent tyres on them. Now if I keep the pressures appropriate to the conditions am I really any worse off for not having 17's or 18's?

I wont care about some cosmetic rim damage because the bling wheels will be at home.

Your choices in 20" off-road rubber (or at least decent touring/light off-road) are a little limiting, unless you're willing to go to a larger diameter tyre - std size limits you to something like the Cooper Zeon LTZ in 275/45/20 (29.7" diameter). The same tyre in 285/50/20 size has more sidewall (around 5.6") and is a little larger (31.2" in dia), but there were some concerns regarding the width - it will fit a D3, but I'm not sure about the D4 (I know it won't fit a 2010 RRS). Seems the front control arm is different in the 2010 models. But if you can try before you buy, consider it. On the D3 it's a fabulous tyre, in terms of comfort and grip.

In the 19" range, you're currently limited to Pirelli ATR and Goodyear MTR, both in 255/55/19 (sidewall = 5.5", diameter = 30"). Both would easily suit your purposes, the MTR is stronger, but noisier (being a mud tyre).

General Grabber have pushed back their 255/55/19 AT2 release to "late 2010", so not an immediate possibility, but a pretty good tyre (owners have reported that the Pirelli has a stronger sidewall).

Cheers,

Gordon

[gghaggis]

Sorry to bring this up again, but could all those who are interested in getting an 18" rim for the D4 or RRS please email me (not PM) - I'm meeting with GMAX on Wednesday to see if they've any leeway on the '15 sets' minimum for a custom run.

Cheers,

Gordon

[kero]

Hi

Iam interested in 6 wheels in the 18 in. size.

thanks. KERO

[rmp]

This is now a sticky so hopefully the numbers will get there. Leaving aside all the discussion it'd be good for owners to at least have the option and good on gghaggis for organising it. Come on you D4 3.0 owners, you could probably save half the cost of the rims by buying 18" instead of 19" rubber!!

[Disco4SE]

Sorry to bring this up again, but could all those who are interested in getting an 18" rim for the D4 or RRS please email me (not PM) - I'm meeting with GMAX on Wednesday to see if they've any leeway on the '15 sets' minimum for a custom run.

Cheers,

Gordon

Thankyou Gordon for persuing the 18" wheels. So much BS going around, yet not enough people to commit. Hopefully GMAX will come to the party.
COME ON ALL, JUST BLOODY WELL ORDER

[chuck]

There is a set of 19" rims with MTR's for sale in market section.
Ideal second set.

Regards

Chuck

[Brick]

Gordon,

Sorry, didn't see your post until today.

Happy to put my hand up for a set of 6 rims. My D4 arrives in August, and was arranging MTRs to be fitted on delivery. May still do this as heading up north in Sept/Oct. Would be good to have a second set for play time.

Cheers,

Cam.

[gghaggis]

Brick/Kero,

I need you to email me (so I have your email address) - I need to show GMAX legitimate contacts before they'll consider the order.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Brick]

Gordon,

Email sent.

Cheers,

[Steffo]

Gordon,

Email sent last week

Regards,

Ken

[bdbasms]

Thye question is in the title .

I own an SE Freelander 2 with 18 inch rims and a disco 3 HSE 2007 with the dreaded 19 inchers.

I drive my beach often and want to do some serious touring in the D3 for two years and in a year or two buy a similar bargain second hand D4.
so tires and wheels are big on the agenda.

The Overlander review of Coopers 20 inch is encouraging but still requires a new set of 20 inch rims, and the issue of changing when the daily drive becomes the off roader emerges which is problematic, as I drive off road for only a very few miles at a time but often!

Any advice welcome re the Disco 3 HSE 19 inch problem.

Brian Bowring George Town Tasmania

[rmp]

Re FL2 and D3 rims. I suspect not interchangeable because the following are likely to be different:

- stud pattern
- PCD
- load rating (from memory 960kg for D3)
- offset (53p for D3)

but check. Don't count on it though.

I think if I were you I'd get some 17" rims for your D3 and suitable tyres for offroading, maybe Cooper STTs in 245/70/17 given you do quite a bit of offroading. 17" rims are available from Performance Wheels or Land Rover or eBay if you can find them. You can maybe sell your 19s on eBay. Consider the cost of 5 x 19" offroad tyres vs 5 x 17" tyres. You'll always be able to sell any 17s for D3s, there's a very ready market. Consider the whole-transaction costs in these matters.

Then when you get your D4 look again at the problem as hopefully by that time there will be cheaper and more tyres for 19s. I also suspect that's the cheapest way to go. It'd only take one ruined 19 or 20 tyre to cause an expensive replacement.

As discussed extensively elsewhere the 19s can work offroad provided you get decent tyres.

Or, you could just buy 19" offroad tyres now and get going. However, they may well be worn out anyway by the time the D4 comes your way.

[gghaggis]

I now have enough registered interest to start up an order from GMAX - provided 'registered interest' converts to buyers!

Anyhow, the price has come down to $380 per rim, so if anyone else wants a set of 18"x8.5" rims for a D4 or Range Rover Sport, email me before the beginning of August for details. The order will go out in middle of August. After that you'll have to wait for the next order - and this one took 6 months to put together!

Cheers,

Gordon

[Graeme]

Gordon,
Is there a particular reason for the 8.5" width rather than the LR std 8"?

[gghaggis]

I believe most of GMAX's larger rims are 8.5" - I guess that's what they're tooled up to make?

Cheers,

Gordon

[Graeme]

Thanks. I thought perhaps it was req'd to make it fit these vehicles in some respect.

[fatnold]

so if anyone else wants a set of 18"x8.5" rims for a D4 or Range Rover Sport, email me before the beginning of August for details. The order will go out in middle of August. After that you'll have to wait for the next order - and this one took 6 months to put together!
Just sent you an email. (auto reply said you were somewhere exciting) Anywhoo, be sure to look out for an order for 6 from me.

cheers

Craig

[oldworleybird]

Thanks Gordon have just sent you an email , will accept set of six rims:)

[gghaggis]

Sorry all, but unfortunately GMAX have pulled out of the production. Those of you who registered on my "interested" list, should receive an email with more info, but essentially they just can't fit in an additional run as production is backed up to May 2011.

If anything else comes up, I'll let the list know.

Cheers,

Gordon

[rmp]

Gordon, sorry to hear that, and thank you on behalf of all forum users for your efforts.

[mowog]

So Options...

These Tyres... Cooper Zeon LTZ on a set of 20's what are peoples thoughts?

Also what 20" rim would you use?

Cooper Tires - Tyres (http://www.coopertyres.com.au/index.php?page=tyres&tyre_id=9)

I have also put a call into the Australian distributer of the Compomotive PD1880. They have no stock at the moment and he is going to confirm the D4 fit for me. Maybe there is some scope for a group buy.

[gghaggis]

I have also put a call into the Australian distributer of the Compomotive PD1880. They have no stock at the moment and he is going to confirm the D4 fit for me. Maybe there is some scope for a group buy.

Good luck - the UK factory has been telling me this for the last 8 months :mad:

I sent them my usual monthly email yesterday - maybe this time ...........

Cheers,

Gordon

[mowog]

Well that burst my bubble...

[gghaggis]

Some news ...........

I had the Italian Oz Racing 18" alloy rim sent over to test fit on a D4 3.0 Ltr at Trivets. NickW had mentioned that they advertised this rim as fitting "Discovery 4" models on their website. Unfortunately it didn't :(

Compomotive finally sent me a PD1880 rim all the way from the UK to test - it didn't fit either :(:(

I sent them back a modified engineering diagram of their rim showing what they would need to change to get it to fit, and they're considering if the changes could be made to their existing mold, so here's hoping.

For those who like to dream, some photos of my RRS with the custom steel 18" rims I had made:

Mis fotos (http://www.myphotos.yahoo.com/s/215b551k5nq3ok69b2xd)

These rims are for off-road use only - they're not load rated (yet!) and their offset makes them legal in WA, but not in most Eastern States.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Celtoid]

Some news ...........

I had the Italian Oz Racing 18" alloy rim sent over to test fit on a D4 3.0 Ltr at Trivets. NickW had mentioned that they advertised this rim as fitting "Discovery 4" models on their website. Unfortunately it didn't :(

Compomotive finally sent me a PD1880 rim all the way from the UK to test - it didn't fit either :(:(

I sent them back a modified engineering diagram of their rim showing what they would need to change to get it to fit, and they're considering if the changes could be made to their existing mold, so here's hoping.

For those who like to dream, some photos of my RRS with the custom steel 18" rims I had made:

Mis fotos (http://www.myphotos.yahoo.com/s/215b551k5nq3ok69b2xd)

These rims are for off-road use only - they're not load rated (yet!) and their offset makes them legal in WA, but not in most Eastern States.

Cheers,

Gordon

They look the business. Thanks. :)

[sniegy]

They look very good Gordon,

Also looks from the piccy, that they just clear the front edge of the rear wheel arch.

But "Gee" they look good.;)

[gghaggis]

They look very good Gordon,

Also looks from the piccy, that they just clear the front edge of the rear wheel arch.

But "Gee" they look good.;)

Some plastic had to be sacrificed for the greater good, but other than that, they actually flex right up into the wheel well! The front tyre at full lock rubs the chassis protrusion at the rear of the front wheel well, but only just and can be lived with for the occasional competiti.., er, off-road weekend :angel:

Cheers,

Gordon

[Bunyip_tdi]

G'Day Gordon,

Whilst having reviewed this and other thread/s and understand the original supplier [GMAX] can no longer fulfil the planned order for 18" RIMS -- regardless I am keen to register my interest for a set [6] of 18" rims for Disco 4 -- should you locate another supplier.

Having been a long term VW Treg V6 TDI owner, completing over 55,000 kms of outback treks with this vary capable 4x4, towing our Kimberley Kamper -- it's unlikely VW will import this fully featured [difflockers, air suspension etc] model in 2011. :(

Drove the new D4 and I am converted! :) Our next trek [Kakadu, Gulf etc] planned for June/July 2011....so try to sort out the D4 in advance.;)

Q. Was the cost on the custom made steel rims hideously expensive?
Q. Can you keep this thread updated in developments with other manufactures?
Q. Did hear through the LR dealer that someone was machining original TDI 2.7 rims 18" so as to fit around the larger TDI 3.0 calipers? Have you heard about this experiment?

Craig H.

[gghaggis]

Q. Did hear through the LR dealer that someone was machining original TDI 2.7 rims 18" so as to fit around the larger TDI 3.0 calipers? Have you heard about this experiment?

Craig H.

No, haven't heard of that - I wouldn't think it would be easy as there's not much meat in the section of rim that needs to be changed, but you never know!

PM me your email addy and I'll add you to the notification list.

Cheers,

Gordon

[rmp]

No, haven't heard of that - I wouldn't think it would be easy as there's not much meat in the section of rim that needs to be changed, but you never know!

PM me your email addy and I'll add you to the notification list.

Cheers,

Gordon

May be possible but it would almost certainly be unroadworthy, the authorities don't permit much in the way of mods to rims and any such would would destroy the load rating.

[slug_burner]

If you are happy to use steel wheels, get in contact with eastern wheel works (http://www.easternwheelworks.com.au/)
they will make up a wheel for you. They might even make up an alloy for you.

Other wheel works might do the same

[Owl]

If you are happy to use steel wheels, get in contact with eastern wheel works (http://www.easternwheelworks.com.au/)
they will make up a wheel for you. They might even make up an alloy for you.

Other wheel works might do the same

Eastern Wheel Works told me some time ago they can't make a steel rim with offset that is legal in Victoria. Didn't enquire about an alloy!

[Disco4SE]

Hi all,
Found these on the LR UK website.
The bloke claims that they fit the RRS Accessories Catalogue - Britpart - The Quality Parts for Land Rovers (http://britpart.com/Accessory.asp?PageRef=4&AccessoryRef=2723&AccessoryVehicleRef)=

Cheers, Craig

[gghaggis]

There are plenty of 18" rims that will fit the 2005 to 2009 RRS and D3. The problem is with the 2010/2011 3.0 ltr cars, both RRS and D4. Most wheel suppliers don't seem to know that there is a difference :(

Cheers,

Gordon

[mowog]

Wild card question...

What if there was a replacement front brake setup with a caliper that would fit inside an 18" wheel?

So does anyone know if there are any after market kits that might do the job?

[drowell]

Hey guys...newbie to this forum and to the world of LR. My D4HSE 3.0 is two months old and I love it. It's off for bars/winch/aux tank/dual batt/drawers etc next week and off to cross the Simpson next year.
In the same boat as you all. Looking for an 18" if I can make it fit.
Actually struggling to get an aftermarket 19 to fit - I'm looking at having a set of MTRs on spare rims.
Any help greatly appreciated!

[CaverD3]

The 2.7 brakes should be able to be fitted and would be sufficient.
Could be solved by engineer giving approval for brake calipers to be changed.

[mowog]

I wasn't considering a down grade in brakes to the 2.7's system. I was thinking more of the Brembo system as used in the Range Rover as it seems there are 18" that will go over those brakes.

[CaverD3]

Yes the brembo or V8 discs will fit 18 inch but not 17 inch.
Anyone know a friendly engineer?:D

[Graeme]

The D3 V8 front discs are 350mm dia whereas the D4 3.0 are 360mm, but I don't know if the Brembo callipers will or will not fit. The rear callipers wont allow anything less than 19" but as the rear discs are the same as the D3's, D3 rear callipers will fit but perhaps require the D3 brackets too.

[CaverD3]

You could always put the V8 disc set on when you need to replace them anyway.
Engineers are not always needed for late models but I am sure someone on the other parts of AULRO would know one.

[gghaggis]

Compomotive sent their modified 18" rim yesterday - should get it next week for a test fitment.

Cheers,

Gordon

[mowog]

Great news...

Assuming it fits is there any idea of time frames for a production run?

[gghaggis]

Great news...

Assuming it fits is there any idea of time frames for a production run?

No info until/if I can turn "assuming it fits" into "as it fits" .........

Cheers,

Gordon

[gghaggis]

Dear all,

Some (good) news - the modified Compomotive rim fits all D4 and RRS diesels :) They are offering me a short production run, so if you're interested please email me for specs and pricing.

Cheers,

Gordon

[drowell]

Hi Gordon,
I bought a spare set of 6 19" RR rims for a grand which I was thinking of fitting the MTRs to.
Nervous about how much meat needs to be removed (robustness) to fit the 18s and how much muck might get caught between the caliper and the wheel if the clearance is too small.
Still intersted though. How much do they anticipate the 18s will cost?
Thanks
Doug.

[gghaggis]

The manufacturer wants all orders in by next week so they can do a production run early December. So if you're _really_ intent on getting these, email me before Tues next week and I'll contact you before adding you to the order.

Last chance ...........


Cheers,

Gordon

[mowog]

My order and deposit is in.. Lets Go Guys

[tonys tank]

Gordon

do you have a picture of the rim, and what 18" mud tyres would suit (as in size) currently running 19" MTR's

[mowog]

Pic of rims here...

Compomotive - Motorsport Wheels (http://www.comp.co.uk/news/detail.asp?newsStory=%3Cb%3EPD1880+8X18+AVAILABLE+ FOR+LIMITED+PERIOD%3C/b%3E)

[Graeme]

My order and deposit is in.. Lets Go Guys
What tyres do you intend fitting?

[Jesse B]

What tyres do you intend fitting?

My order is in too (thanks Gordon!) - and I too, would be interested in some discussion about tyre options. Goodness knows, we've flogged the 19" candidates to death via a host of threads! Very ready for some debate about 18" options - if this is the place for it, or via a new thread...

[mowog]

What tyres do you intend fitting?

Tyres I thought I had that covered I was looking at Cooper ZEON LTZ's in 20's if the 18" rims didn't work out but the 18" ZEON LTZ are to tall to keep things legal on the D4.

My next trip is May 2011 so I have some time on the tyre thing.

[Graeme]

If the Conti ATs were available in LT I think they would do a good all-round job for my use, including the rare harsh outback trip. However as the shortest LT sidewall I've encountered is 16.6mm (BS D694 in LT255/65-17 and then only LI 114 and that's a special version for Australia), I can't see the sense in hoping for better options. I need to settle on a tyre now in order to join the special rim production run. I'm struggling to sufficiently discount my planned 17" conversion. These 18" rims would be an easy solution if only I can find the right tyre.

[CaverD3]

What about the GG AT's I think they do a LT in the 18 inch but not thew 19. Not sure about the availability here though.

[chuck]

Graeme

The only real choice in LT 18's is the BFG in 265 x 65 x 18.
However they may be considered to be to large in certain states.
If these governments ever come good to the recommended 50mm largest diameter increase they then would be OK.
Physical fit will be OK - however then you may have warranty issues as one of the guys found out with a brand new defender. His issue has since been resolved after independent inspection.

The BFG's are expensive in Oz however they are available.
You could purchase from tirerack to save some money.

This is why I decided to go back to 17's after much procrastination although I know you can not do this in the 3.0l D4.

Regards

Chuck

[CaverD3]

New GG AT

Not sure if the 18 inch LTs are the right size but here they are:

Untitled 4 (http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/the_new_general_AT/Pages/31.html)

Click on "the new general AT" for the whole spiel.

Home Page (http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/)

[Graeme]

The new GG AT in 255/60-18 is only XL, not LT. The LT versions are 31.5" and larger, with 285/60-18 about the smallest.

The BFGs are my prime candidate for outback travel but I'm not sure about using them all the time due to reportedly being noisy. They also require the rear a/c pipe protection at the front of the rear guards to be flattened. I don't really want to run 2 sets of tyres especially without a 2nd set of rims, as the outback tyres would probably deteriorate before wearing-out.

I've just ruled-out one 17" conversion option which was to fit longer studs for my BMW X5 rims, as the rear studs (at least) can't be removed from the hub. If the extended-shank nuts that were supposed to be available several months ago are not actually available then replacement 17" rims would be needed as well as the brake conversion, so the new 18" rims are looking better. Monday is approaching very quickly.

[Jesse B]

For some time (when I've allowed myself to imagine we'd get this 18" rim thing over the line!) I've been leaning towards the Cooper LTZ's - though I understand there might be some slight clearance issues - maybe the same as for the BFGs? Also not totally sure they'd fit up into the standard spare wheel well without dropping air pressure (and then having to use the compressor if/when required). But the blurb at least gives me hope of a reasonable compromise between highway needs (limited noise, reasonable handling) and off-road needs (better sidewall height and tougher tread & construction).

Interested in any comments re this option - and especially interested in any experience with these on the highway re road noise.

And Graeme - there's nothing like a deadline to put the heat on decision-making!! :wasntme:

[Graeme]

And Graeme - there's nothing like a deadline to put the heat on decision-making!! :wasntme:
You're right! I've waited far too long but just invested 60 USD in 24 shanked nuts that fit the BMW rims without any mods and make them legal with 5 extra threads, having somehow found them this time with new google search parameters. It would be timely if by Monday night I get confirmation that these are indeed available which would mean that I'll be content to pass on these 18" rims. But its not Monday night yet!

[CaverD3]

The new GG AT in 255/60-18 is only XL, not LT. The LT versions are 31.5" and larger, with 285/60-18 about the smallest.

Unless you want to wait till 2012.:angel:

Found a really good tyre calculator:

Tire size calculator (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

[Graeme]

Gordon,

Do you have takers to get an order going yet?

[gghaggis]

Gordon,

Do you have takers to get an order going yet?

Hi Graeme,

Yes, orders closed for now - rims should be available late Jan :D

I've been asked if I want to distribute/retail these rims in Australia (as I helped design them), and I've agreed to the proposal. So from around April/May 2011, these rims will be available for purchase. Obviously they'll be a bit pricier than this one-off consignment ~ around $400 per rim.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Disco4SE]

Looking forward to see some pics of the rims on a car.
Probably be looking for some mid next year.
Thanks for all the hard work Gordon.
Cheers, Craig

[640Newton]

I'm currently running 19" rims with 255/55/19 Goodyear MTR's. However it seems that these tyres are becoming harder and harder to come by, so when they need replacing I'm going to have problems.

Can you confirm that these rims will fit a 2008 RRS TDV8 with Brembo brakes, and if so, what tyres will offer a rolling diameter that remains within 5% of the standard 255/50/19 supplied on the TDV8?

[gghaggis]

If you PM me your email, I'll send you some tyre and rim specs.

Cheers,

Gordon


I'm currently running 19" rims with 255/55/19 Goodyear MTR's. However it seems that these tyres are becoming harder and harder to come by, so when they need replacing I'm going to have problems.

Can you confirm that these rims will fit a 2008 RRS TDV8 with Brembo brakes, and if so, what tyres will offer a rolling diameter that remains within 5% of the standard 255/50/19 supplied on the TDV8?

[Graeme]

Gordon,

In case you haven't spotted it, GOE has an email re invoices.

[gghaggis]

Gordon,

In case you haven't spotted it, GOE has an email re invoices.

Sorry Graeme - attending to it now!

Cheers,

Gordon

[Bunyip_tdi]

Graeme, Sent you PM about ordering rims for D4.

Craig

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Bunyip,
If are talking about the aftermarket 18" rims, you need to contact Gordon (gghaggis).

Best Wishes,
Peter

[gghaggis]

Had 4 of the rims flown in for promotional use - fitted them up yesterday with Maxxis Bighorn 275/65R18 muddies :cool:

Cheers,

Gordon

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/963.jpg

[101RRS]

Now that looks nice - real nice:).

How to those muddies drive on the road?

[Disco4SE]

Gordon,
Are these rims powder coated to your choice of colour, or all the same?
Do the Bighorns scrub at all?
When do you expect delivery of other orders?

Cheers,
Craig

[gghaggis]

Hi Gary,

They ride pretty similarly to the Goodyear MTR's, but the larger sidewalls are noticeable - ride's a little softer and soaks up bumps a little better.

Hi Craig,

The rims come in one colour - you can have them powdercoated yourself though. The Bighorns rub a bit on the rear wheel well lining with the standard height rods - with the GOE rods they're fine. There's been some delay with a few people getting their final payments in (I suspect the floods have something to do with this) so the shipment hasn't left yet. Should be soon though!

Cheers,

Gordon

[Celtoid]

They look great mate.

What was the reasoning behind the choice in tyre?

I assume the scrubbing issue would be the same with a D4? Would something like the Llams fix this or is it a different issue completely?

Look forward to reading the reports from readers that have taken up your offer and then test different tyres and conditions.

Cheers,

Kev.

[gghaggis]

Hi Kev,

The tyre choice is based on (yes I know I'm an idiot) my expectation of competing in the RRS at some of the 4WD events in the next few years. I used many tyre brands when I did this in the D3, and the Maxxis seemed to perform best.

Either the LLAMS system, or my HS rods (GOE - or similar) will reduce the rubbing to a manageable level.

Cheers,

Gordon

[101RRS]

I guess access height is out of the question with those tyres.

[~Rich~]

Looks Great,
I think you will need to use that sweet roof basket to fit the spare on board. ( And a helper will be required to access it!)

[101RRS]

Will not fit a 3.0 but someone may be interested.

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[gghaggis]

I guess access height is out of the question with those tyres.
No, access height is fine. The suspension will flex beyond access height though, which causes the rubbing.

Cheers,

Gordon

[101RRS]

Had 4 of the rims flown in for promotional use - fitted them up yesterday with Maxxis Bighorn 275/65R18 muddies :cool:

Cheers,

Gordon

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/963.jpg

Hi Gordon - you have had these tyres for a little while now and I understand done a couple of trips. So how are they working out? Noise on the road? Overall suitability for everyday use? Rubbing issues?

Would that size fit standard RRS 18" rims or do your rims have different offset to allow the tyres to clear the car? I am leaning toward General Grabber ATs for my RRS but if I can get a mud that is not too bad for everyday use as well I would consider them - but I will stay with the standard rims so might have to use a narrower tyre - 265.

I think it is time for you to put up a road test on the combo you have.:)

Thanks

Garry

[gghaggis]

I think it is time for you to put up a road test on the combo you have.:)

Thanks

Garry

Hmm, I've had a _lot_ of email and PM's on the issue of 18" tyres, so perhaps an overview is in order. I'll start another thread on it.

Cheers,

Gordon

[rmp]

This thread has served its purpose so I will unsticky it shortly unless anyone has a good reason why not.

[rmp]

Question for those that have fitted the 18s. What is the clearance between caliper and rim?

tia

[Jesse B]

Sorry - been away for a week or two (on the lower 300 ks of the Canning for work :)) and only just saw this. From what I can recall, clearance is minimal - I'd say 1 to 2 mm. Cause for much head scratching when fitting wheel weights.

[gghaggis]

Just an update for those that were considering Cooper LTZ tyres for the D4/RRS. A client of mine has fitted Cooper Zeon LTZ 285/60R18's to the 18" rims for his D4 3.0 ltr, and reports that there is minor rubbing at access height on full lock only.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Disco4SE]

Just an update for those that were considering Cooper LTZ tyres for the D4/RRS. A client of mine has fitted Cooper Zeon LTZ 285/60R18's to the 18" rims for his D4 3.0 ltr, and reports that there is minor rubbing at access height on full lock only.

Cheers,

Gordon
Not too bad Gordon.
How do you rate these tyres?

Cheers, Craig

[gghaggis]

Love them! For those who live in states where they're legal, they are the best compromise off-road tyre at a reasonable price. Quite aggressive for an AT, but fairly quiet.

Cheers,

Gordon