ITT Whiskey

[flagg]

In this threat we discuss the joys of this most gracious delight - whiskey.

I'm blessed with some of this right now.. its simply the smoothest, most delicious thing I've tasted.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

What is your fav?

Does anyone know any good whiskey bars in Sydney or Melb?

[markus_80]

MMMMM yes a very tastey drop indeed:D

Alas my whiskey budget is as slim as my 4by budget hehe so trying some of these older refined whiskey's is rare.

My pic firstly is to choose between a blended or single malt and for me, though the blends are quite palatable, don't stack up against a single malt.

I have had a 21 y/o Glenfiddich that was again very smooth full of heather with a hint of peat, for a cheaper drop though the younger The Glenlivet's are nicer. Dalwhinnie 15 yo is also a very good drop. A tipple that I have only had a nip of was Sullivans Cove from Tassie unfortunately i can't remember how old it was.
I'm also partial to a good Irish whiskey as well:D

Just a couple of the ones I've had hehe many more to try

mark

[flagg]

Yeah I get myself a bottle once a year for myself as a birthday pres :)

I've not tried Sullivans Cove - I'll have to keep my eyes out for it.

For a less expensive drop I'm partial to a Jamison.. The Glenlivet 12 is also very nice.

[chunk]

I had a nice 50 year old bottle of Chivers Regal Royal Salute that I acquired from my late father in law, he was a bus driver and one of the passengers gave it to him around 1960. He had the bottle for over 40 years before I got hold of it, he didn't drink and was going to pour it down the sink :o. Still got the bottle, stoneware bottle, blue velvet bag and silver top. But alas the bottle is empty.:(

[Hamish71]

Im inspired...Im going to go and get a glass right now whilst i ponder this most interesting of topics:)....back in a sec....

[Hamish71]

ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh yyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.....now, where were we....

Jamiesons is a good substitute, when you walk into a suburban bottleshop, and know you are only going to get it....and nothing better. However, Im quite partial to Laphroaig, dont mind Oban, Glennmorangie, Glenlivet. There are a lot of great whiskey bars in Melbourne, Fidel's, Gin Palace, Supper CLub to name a few.....but for something a little different, if you have a weekend in Vic, go to the Red Star Cafe, in hepburn springs (daylesford)...tell the better half you are taking her there for dinnerafter she has spent the day in the spa....better yet, send her to the spa and spend an afternoon at the bar and ask her to pick you up afterwards:) ....food is extraordinary....the whiskey "list" will blow your mind.

So, Im up for a social event involving tumblers, single malt and landrovers...and I dont care where it is!

[Celtoid]

Yeah I get myself a bottle once a year for myself as a birthday pres :)

I've not tried Sullivans Cove - I'll have to keep my eyes out for it.

For a less expensive drop I'm partial to a Jamison.. The Glenlivet 12 is also very nice.

I think the Irish Vs Scottish stuff is a bit like Shiraz Vs Cab Sav.....similar but not quite the same animal. It's horses for courses or in my case...I like both styles of spirit and red wine. :)

I'm not a big fan of Glenfiddich standard...12 YR old or whatever it is and it has been a rumour in the industry for well over a decade, that once again the big quality control issue lost out over volume. However, I have had a few bottles of the 15 YR old Glenfiddich Solera and it is fabulous stuff. I can only imagine how good the 21 YR old would be.

Referring to the above rumour...the Japs have been involved and own many Scottish whisky distilleries and have done for quite some time.....wouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that commercialism could take it's toll!

My run of the mill single malt is Glenmorangie.

I'll have to look out for Sullivans Cove too....never heard of it. I hear the Kiwi's don't do a bad dram either but I've never tried.

Oh, for the record....Whiskey is Irish and Whisky is Scottish....apparently....a bit like Mac and McK...which I think is tosh! Being of Scots with a little Irish decent, I'm allowed to say that.

Apologies to any that disagree... :)

[Celtoid]

I had a nice 50 year old bottle of Chivers Regal Royal Salute that I acquired from my late father in law, he was a bus driver and one of the passengers gave it to him around 1960. He had the bottle for over 40 years before I got hold of it, he didn't drink and was going to pour it down the sink :o. Still got the bottle, stoneware bottle, blue velvet bag and silver top. But alas the bottle is empty.:(

Great score for you. Once it's in the bottle the positive ageing would be minimal, if at all....however, Royal Salute doesn't need any help. :)

Worked with a guy once who was flown in to repair an aircraft in the Middle East for some big wig. One of his honchos was tasked with looking after the maintenance engineers. Royal Salutes all night and a lovely (full) velvet bag to take home on top of the tax free dosh!!!

[flagg]

Laphroaig

that is the really peaty one, isn't it? Loved it. Had it first at a whiskey bar in Wellington.


Glennmorangie is so buttery.. I like it but it isn't as strong as I'm usually after.

Glenlivet is my regular. I've got the 12,15 and 21.



So, Im up for a social event involving tumblers, single malt and landrovers...and I dont care where it is!

Sounds like a bloody good idea!

[Celtoid]

that is the really peaty one, isn't it? Loved it. Had it first at a whiskey bar in Wellington.


Glennmorangie is so buttery.. I like it but it isn't as strong as I'm usually after.

Glenlivet is my regular. I've got the 12,15 and 21.




Sounds like a bloody good idea!

Laphroaig, yup that's pretty heavy...another strong smoke and peat Whisky is Lagavulin.

[Mick-Kelly]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Ah a thread after my own heart, i love sampling single malts. The variety is amazing.

[Redback]

I'm more partial to Irish whiskeys, Jamison or Tullamore Dew blended mostly, but for special occasions a really fine smooth tasting whiskey (WHEN I CAN AFFORD IT) is 10yr old Bushmills, a 12yr old Glen Moray Scotch whiskey but, the best are the pot still Irish whiskeys (well for me anyway) Redbreast and Dalys of Tullamore pot stills, unfortunately I can't afford these on a regular basis (when you can get them)

On a side note, if you want to try an Australian whiskey, then the Lark distillary in Hobart Tasmania do a very good whiskey, they also do a very good Pepperberry Liqueur;)

Also I have heard good reports about Hellyer's Road, Southern Fire Single Malt Whiskey in Tasmania.

Baz.

[Fifth Columnist]

In this threat we discuss the joys of this most gracious delight - whiskey.

I'm blessed with some of this right now.. its simply the smoothest, most delicious thing I've tasted.

http://www.bienmanger.com/images/genre/1576-0w0h0_Glenlivet_Whisky_Glenlivet_Archive_Years.jpg

What is your fav?

Does anyone know any good whiskey bars in Sydney or Melb?
Why are you showing a bottle of whisky and talking about whiskey? :angel:

[haggisbasher]

http://www.bestofwhisky.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/laphroaig01.jpg

Ah a thread after my own heart, i love sampling single malts. The variety is amazing.


I have this exact set up at home... Nosing glass for my Birthday last year... and the bottle, is not empty YET.

Love my full bodied WHISKY.....

THB

[Hamish71]

My wife was very excited I had stopped talking about the green oval last night....but is not sure she wants me to display as much enthusiasm for whisky as I do the Disco......

I didnt know there were any Tasmanian whiskys.....if they are any good, Im picturing a drive around the island, punctuated by the occasional bit of mud, a dram of whisky, the foood is excellent, and GOC Home Command loves the B and B scene down there...... Just need to convince her to drive:)

Might I suggest that if there is such a thing as an AULRO annual gathering, Tasmania is the spot for this year!

[p38arover]

I didnt know there were any good whiskies.....

Fixed it for you.

I'm not sure which is better, metho or whiskey/whisky. Metho by a small margin?

[bblaze]

My wife was very excited I had stopped talking about the green oval last night....but is not sure she wants me to display as much enthusiasm for whisky as I do the Disco......

I didnt know there were any Tasmanian whiskys.....if they are any good, Im picturing a drive around the island, punctuated by the occasional bit of mud, a dram of whisky, the foood is excellent, and GOC Home Command loves the B and B scene down there...... Just need to convince her to drive:)

Might I suggest that if there is such a thing as an AULRO annual gathering, Tasmania is the spot for this year!
There is a whisky brewed in burnie on the norwest, not a bad drop either
cheers
blaze

[Redback]

Why are you showing a bottle of whisky and talking about whiskey? :angel:

The debate between the Scots and the Irish over the whisky title goes back to the Dark Ages. The first legal distillery in the British Isles was in Northern Ireland. Bushmills, on the northern coast of Ireland, has had a license to distil since 1608, the reign of King James I of England and VI of Scotland, who also laid claim to Ireland.

Now the Irish spell it whiskey and the Scots spell it whisky, the founder of the Jameson distillary John Jameson (A Scot by birth;)) spells it whiskey.

The Irish invented the stuff, they spell it whiskey:p

I don't worry how it's spelt, I just enjoy the taste of either:D

Baz.

[haggisbasher]

Could be said...

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


*dons flame proof suit*

Have to say, am partial to either Scots or Irish.....

HAve to look fo rthe Burnie one tho :)

Chris

[Fifth Columnist]

I don't worry how it's spelt, I just enjoy the taste of either:D

Baz.
Agree with that :D
Anything from a Scottish Island is great for me.

[Redback]

Could be said...

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


*dons flame proof suit*

Have to say, am partial to either Scots or Irish.....

HAve to look fo rthe Burnie one tho :)

Chris

Here ya go just 4 of many more
Hellyers Road Distillery (http://www.hellyersroaddistillery.com.au/)

AND
Lark Distillery (http://www.larkdistillery.com.au/the_distillery/single_malt_whiskys.php)

AND
Whisky Distillery Tasmania | Nant distillery (http://www.nantdistillery.com.au/index.php'module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=2&pid=12)

AND
Trapper's Hut :: Tasmanian Single Cask Malt Whisky (http://www.trappershut.com.au/)

AND Victorian
Timboon Railway Shed
Timboon, South West Victoria.
http://www.nicks.com.au/upload/image/image_200992914275454955.jpg

AND
Bakery Hill
Bayswater, Dandenong Foothills, Victoria
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

AMAZING HEY

A complete guide
Vintage Direct - Australian Whisky Distillery Locations (http://www.nicks.com.au/index.aspx?link_id=76.1620)

You might have guessed that I like whiskey;)

There is also this
http://www.nicks.com.au/admin/upload/file/file_200910317372525527.pdf

Baz.

[Seriestwo]

I started drinking Scotch about 16 years ago, I started on the cheap stuff, ie Johnny Walker, famous grouse, black douglas and mcallums just to name a few. The i got a job and started to try more expensive scotches. I found that all the Johnny Walker whiskys taste practically the same just a little smoother when the price goes up. I have tried most of the range of scotch at Dan Murphys and I enjoyed most of them. Now here is the troubling part, one day I went into Dan Murphys and saw Bushmills malt (not a real expensive irish whiskey aged 10 years), I thought i have tried most of the other scotch whiskys here i might give the irish whiskey a go. Well to be honest it was the smoothest and best tasting whiskey I have tasted. I think it has something to do with the triple distillation. But now when i go back to drinking scotch whisky it seems to all taste like ash. I dont understand why but now I can only really enjoy irish whiskeys. It doesn't mean i dont drink scotch whisky it just means i dont enjoy is as much as i used to. which is a shame.

At the casino in Brisbane they have a wine and whisky bar

[rockyroad]

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


As much as I like the Irish/Scottish whiskeys I find that If I try to drink them I end up with horrendous heart burn. The only whiskey I can drink now (and have grown very partial too) is Jack Daniels.

Knock JD if you must, but most if not all the Scottish and Irish distilleries buy JD barrels after they are finished with them.

[HSVRangie]

where its from
Scotch Whisky Distilleries, Scotland - scotchwhisky.net (http://www.scotchwhisky.net/distilleries/index.php)

A Tasy Distillery
The Finest Whisky (http://www.tasmanianwhisky.com.au/speed_test/finest.html)


History of Whisky
http://www.scotchwhisky.net/history.php


regards
Michael.

[haggisbasher]

Rocky Road....

i know others that heartburn happens to so not knocking in any way. Is great if one can find a drop one likes.

Very interested in some of our local drams..... have to look into them.

Chris

[JamesH]

Last night I had a Highland Park, previous nights this week it was a Laphroaig Quarter Cask.

My default is Johnnie Walker Green Label, which I love. There is nothing wrong with a Johnnie and i thank them for the free whisky schools they ran a few years back that got me into scotch in the first place after not getting it for many years.

I also have a bottle of Caol Ila, Edradour special edition and the simply amazing Macallan Elegancia. I'm a bit like some people here are with Lanrovers, I seem to accumualte them.

Next bottle I want to find is a Springbank, a Campbelltown whisky, an area Ive never tried.

[Hamish71]

Bakery Hill[/B]
Bayswater, Dandenong Foothills, Victoria
http://www.nicks.com.au/upload/image/image_200992914564949419.jpg

AMAZING HEY

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Bugger me...all these years in Belgrave and I didnt know that....Im going there tomorrow.

[Hamish71]

Now I M buggered, no cellar door sales....Nicks WIne Merchants...Im going there now.

[nice1guv]

Has anyone tried Limeburners from the Great Southern Distilling Company in WA?

Great Southern Distilling Company - Whisky (http://www.distillery.com.au/whisky.aspx?_ItemType=2)

[markus_80]

This is the site for Sullivans Cove, was just looking at the website and I think I have previously had the double cask whisky Awarded an outstanding 93 points by French Whisky Critic Gregorie Sarafian..
this is the website Tasmania Distillery (http://www.tasmaniadistillery.com/)

have a look at some of the reviews to get a an idea i'm definitely putting an order in. For them to be awarded Best Other World Whisky they must be right up there with the best.

my test buds are salivating at the thought hehe.:D

I agree about the younger cheaper Glenfiddich's the quality is not the same due to the large commercialisation of the brand.

And as for a group trip where we can offload those not interested in whisky or 4wd to leave us other buggers i would definitely be up for that

without doubt one of the best new threads :D

mark

[Redback]

I started drinking Scotch about 16 years ago, I started on the cheap stuff, ie Johnny Walker, famous grouse, black douglas and mcallums just to name a few. The i got a job and started to try more expensive scotches. I found that all the Johnny Walker whiskys taste practically the same just a little smoother when the price goes up. I have tried most of the range of scotch at Dan Murphys and I enjoyed most of them. Now here is the troubling part, one day I went into Dan Murphys and saw Bushmills malt (not a real expensive irish whiskey aged 10 years), I thought i have tried most of the other scotch whiskys here i might give the irish whiskey a go. Well to be honest it was the smoothest and best tasting whiskey I have tasted. I think it has something to do with the triple distillation. But now when i go back to drinking scotch whisky it seems to all taste like ash. I dont understand why but now I can only really enjoy irish whiskeys. It doesn't mean i dont drink scotch whisky it just means i dont enjoy is as much as i used to. which is a shame.

At the casino in Brisbane they have a wine and whisky bar

The reason for that ash/burnt flavour is in the filtering (it's filtered through the peat smock)and to lovers of Scotch that is the flavour they enjoy along with other flavours, whereas Irish is filtered by not passing through the smoke and triple distilling making it smoother.

It's just what people prefer, both styles are good and the Scots and the Irish are the best at making whiskey.

Bourbon is not whiskey:p

[Celtoid]

The reason for that ash/burnt flavour is in the filtering (it's filtered through the peat smock)and to lovers of Scotch that is the flavour they enjoy along with other flavours, whereas Irish is filtered by not passing through the smoke and triple distilling making it smoother.

It's just what people prefer, both styles are good and the Scots and the Irish are the best at making whiskey.

Bourbon is not whiskey:p

I think you'll find the addition of caramel adds to the perception of smoothness and sweetness.

The Irish might triple distill but I'd bet the "sweet spot" is a mile wide.

Do they actually filter Scotch? I thought that the peat smoke was used to stop germination in the barley (Malting)....before it's mashed up The spirit that comes out of the still is technically clear......isn't it?

[Celtoid]

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


As much as I like the Irish/Scottish whiskeys I find that If I try to drink them I end up with horrendous heart burn. The only whiskey I can drink now (and have grown very partial too) is Jack Daniels.

Knock JD if you must, but most if not all the Scottish and Irish distilleries buy JD barrels after they are finished with them.



I think you'll find that might be true with cheap blended scotch, regarding the barrels but a high quality single should come from Spanish Sherry barrels....or so I read somewhere. I think it's Glenmorangie that even owns it's own oak plantations. Some distillers use Spanish Sherry and then new wood, as part of the aging process.

[Celtoid]

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


As much as I like the Irish/Scottish whiskeys I find that If I try to drink them I end up with horrendous heart burn. The only whiskey I can drink now (and have grown very partial too) is Jack Daniels.

Knock JD if you must, but most if not all the Scottish and Irish distilleries buy JD barrels after they are finished with them.

My apologies Rockyroad...this topic has stimulated me to the point of consulting an old book on Scotch Whisky....the Sherry Cask was an original idea but prohibitive costs and changing laws apparently drove the distillers down the Bourbon Cask road. So there is now French, Spanish and American timber involved. ;)

[Redback]

The Scot once triple distilled, but I think when they went away from pot stilling and started blending Whiskeys, and also started the way it's done now (forget the term) that was when they went away from triple distilling.

American oak is used now because of the the way whiskey is now made (blending) for a wider range of buyers, blending made the process quicker which was a Scottish invention and it also made Scotch whiskey more available and popular.

But malt whiskeys and pot stilled Irish whiskeys are still stored/aged in French oak and made in the old traditional method.

Baz.

[haggisbasher]

My apologies Rockyroad...this topic has stimulated me to the point of consulting an old book on Scotch Whisky....the Sherry Cask was an original idea but prohibitive costs and changing laws apparently drove the distillers down the Bourbon Cask road. So there is now French, Spanish and American timber involved. ;)

Wot he said.....

Dad has some at home from 3 different casks.... sherry, port and another. Plus some "normal" ones.

Me... i love my peaty ones.... yeah, it is the peat they use to fire the driers before the mash...... and yeah, the whisky is clear when it comes out of the stills.

Off to the nosing glass now.

Chris

[Hamish71]

:):woot::beer:...I can now say, with some conviction....that bakery hill stuff is not bad!....although experimentation will have to continue when more supply is sourced.....might have to make next round solo so it lasts longer:)

[LandyAndy]

Ive had "tastings" at Lime Burners Distillery in Albany WA.
They have won some EXCELLENT international awards.
Great Southern Distilling Company - Whisky (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.distillery.com.au%2Fwhisky.as px&ei=FuEITJqbBs_RcZ75zJ8O&usg=AFQjCNHdU6ZY88g9DQUgtEM0F0eXPCmjOg)

EXPENSIVE!!!
Should have seen the look on the barmans face when I bought a shot of their award winner,had a sip,then asked for some Coke to go with it:D:D:D:cool::cool:
It was the smothest Ive ever tasted.Try to get in there for a shot or 2 when in Albany and its raining.
Andrew

[Redback]

Yes Australian whiskey is very expensive, the tax on the local product is a killer, almost half the cost you pay for a bottle:twisted:

Anyone remember Corio:D

Baz.

[kaa45]

Yes Australian whiskey is very expensive, the tax on the local product is a killer, almost half the cost you pay for a bottle:twisted:

Anyone remember Corio:D

Baz.

Yep, use to live around the corner.

[Fifth Columnist]

What sort of mony are you talking about in Aus?
UK = £ 12+ blended
£20+ single malt.

[LandyAndy]

The LimeBurners stuff is $100 a bottle.
Andrew

[big guy]

As it happens, I own a bar in SA, we have 40 single malts and 10-15 blened whiskys.

Take a look at Welcome to Fumo Blu (http://www.fumoblu.com.au)
We also have youtube film which some Uni students did for us last weekhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/

The whiskys constantly change, we get some from Japan, Tasmania and God knows where else.

Next time your are in town, let me know and I rrange special deals for all Land rover folk.;)

[Redback]

What sort of mony are you talking about in Aus?
UK = £ 12+ blended
£20+ single malt.

Well said by Landyandy Aussie whiskey is around the $100 mark and higher.

Scotch is around $35 for blended and $50 to $100 + for single malt

Irish is around $40 to $70 for blended and $100 + for single malt and pot stilled.

Bourbon is the same.

Baz.

[Hamish71]

As it happens, I own a bar in SA, we have 40 single malts and 10-15 blened whiskys.

Take a look at Welcome to Fumo Blu (http://www.fumoblu.com.au)
We also have youtube film which some Uni students did for us last weekhttp://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mU716b6gA

The whiskys constantly change, we get some from Japan, Tasmania and God knows where else.

Next time your are in town, let me know and I rrange special deals for all Land rover folk.;)

Yeah baby...i can feel a barossa trip coming on....plus, of course, a visit to the best bar in adelaide....psst...whats it called again....Fumo Blu!

[Hamish71]

And you are all in trouble.....my wife wants to know why I all of a sudden drank two bottles of whisky in 2 days....I blamed you guys of course.