80" bonnet mounted spare

[Lost Landy]

Hi all iam thinking that a bonnet mounted spare mustnt be to common here as just about every 80" i have looked at latley dosnt have one, i have 4 80" and none have a bonnet mtd spare.
Does any one have any ideas?

[Larry]

Can't be too rare, mine's got one!:D

[Mick-Kelly]

Yep mines got one as well. 49/50 model

[B.S.F.]

I've got two 80'' bonnets with wheel carriers, and both have got the 3/8'' clamp bolts, and not the 1/2" which were used from later SI models onwards.

[that_kid]

Hi all iam thinking that a bonnet mounted spare mustnt be to common here as just about every 80" i have looked at latley dosnt have one, i have 4 80" and none have a bonnet mtd spare.
Does any one have any ideas?

:o would you be interested in parting with one of them? :angel:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The spare wheel support was an optional extra in the 80". Part number 231282 for 6.00 16 and 231588 for 7.00 16 the main difference being a block that went under the clamps. For 7.00 16 tyres if you use the later clamps with one long side then you don't need the block.

The weight of the spare wheel on the bonnet tends to fracture the little alloy supporting frame under the bonnet skin. I would be looking for a bonnet with the mount already fitted and keep the undamaged original bonnet as a spare.

[StuRR80]

The spare wheel support was an optional extra in the 80". Part number 231282 for 6.00 16 and 231588 for 7.00 16 the main difference being a block that went under the clamps. For 7.00 16 tyres if you use the later clamps with one long side then you don't need the block.

Lotza, are you able to confirm (or deny!) the part number 307235 being for the later model clamps to fit my 1958 109"? Once I find that bit out, I'll be trying to track down a pair.

TIA

Stu

[Lost Landy]

I surpose I could take the spare mount of several 86,107 bonnets and use that on one of my 80" bonnets :D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Will check all the numbers when I get home.

The threads on the original supports frequently stripped out and hence the later type was often used as a replacement.

If you look in the Series 1 workshop manual there is a template for fitting the support and where to drill the large holes for the bolts to pass through.

They are recommended to be fitted with mushroom headed solid rivets as they are stronger than pop rivets. I have even seen them attached with self tapping screws, and I have also seen the whole support come away from the bonnet and the spare wheel depart the vehicle, particularly when fitted with pop rivets or screws.

There are also the rubber buffers, on the S1 they are rectangular and of two different heights. The thin ones for the centreline fore and aft of the support and the thick ones on either side of the support. Later models had the buffers mounted at 45 degrees to the support and were all of the same thickness.

[series1buff]

Around here , they all seemed to have been delivered with the bonnet spare mount as standard. Come to think of it, I don't think I've never seen a local 80" bonnet without the spare mount .
MIKE

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Around here , they all seemed to have been delivered with the bonnet spare mount as standard. Come to think of it, I don't think I've never seen a local 80" bonnet without the spare mount .
MIKEThe following is an invalid logical argument.
Abe is a Raven
All Ravens I've seen are black
Therefore Abe is black.

It just so happens that I have a couple of bonnets, including one in my back yard without spare wheel supports.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/88.jpg
Image source RACQ "RACQ 50 years of service celebrations 1956"

[back_in]

Hi
80 inch hard tops on the average had no bonnet mounted spares
they were mounted in the tub behind the seat box
cheers
Ian

[Lost Landy]

ah that would explain why my 1953 80" doesnt have a bonnet mtd spare as it left Granvile motors with a full hard top :D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I don't think the hardtop has a lot to do with it. What would determine the add on would be the intended use, if the idea was to carry 4 very crowded people in the back the support was affixed to the bonnet.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1581.jpg
My first Land Rover 1969 - no bonnet spare - narrow transom - lights behind model headlamps modified by P.O.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1582.jpg
Image Source: National Archives of Australia Barcode 4240225 - Cooma 1950-

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/1583.jpg
Image Source: National Archives of Australia Barcode 4240800 - Polo Flat 1951

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/152.jpg
Image Source: National Archives of Australia Barcode 4240478 - G Ward Price Tour Bogged SMHEC 1950

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/475.jpg
Image Source: National Archives of Australia Barcode 4240606 - Tumut Pond Gorge 1950 - Image corrected DLA

[Col.Coleman]

Most I have seen have not been fitted.

Plus, if it was mine, with an alloy radiator support panel, I wouldn't bother either.

My 107 is getting a steel radiator panel for this reason, being a trayback, I want to mount the wheel on the bonnet and don't want to crack up the alloy one.

CC

[Boofrmb]

Hi Lotz-A-Landies

If you would like another pic, I have one of the PMG when they used Landies.

Rob

[Boofrmb]

Hi,, I have 4 48 80in landies, and only one that has the spare tyre on the bonnet, the rest is in the rear tray..

Rob