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Utemad
10th June 2010, 07:18 PM
Hi folks,
When mounting an LPG converter does it need to be in the vertical or horizontal plane?
Also does the LPG filter and cut off assembly have to be mounted upright or is laying on its side ok?
Currently it is mounted in the vertical plane and upright but I'm moving things around a bit.
Thanks.
bee utey
10th June 2010, 08:44 PM
Hi folks,
When mounting an LPG converter does it need to be in the vertical or horizontal plane?
Also does the LPG filter and cut off assembly have to be mounted upright or is laying on its side ok?
Currently it is mounted in the vertical plane and upright but I'm moving things around a bit.
Thanks.
And what brand of lpg converter is it? Impco type converters don't mind being laid down, complex ones are best mounted vertically with the plane of the diaphragm parallel to the engine. Some units are fussier than others. If there is a drain plug that is a sign that it should be mounted so it's at the bottom.
The lock-off and filter unit can be fitted upright or sideways but preferably not upside down (coil at the bottom).
400HPONGAS
10th June 2010, 08:52 PM
What convertor ? not that it matters !! They should be mounted Vertically , and facing front to Back , with the Vapor hose as high as possible . If your using a positive convertor . make sure you can acess the Idle mixture and sensitivity screws .
400HPONGAS
10th June 2010, 09:10 PM
Bee Utey , even negative convertors(Impco . Nolfs , OHG , and B2's ) will still suffer the problems of Horizontal mounting that a positive convertor does . Seen many negative convertors stuff up , especially B2's when used with those crappy GRA throttle bodies .
bee utey
10th June 2010, 09:48 PM
Bee Utey , even negative convertors(Impco . Nolfs , OHG , and B2's ) will still suffer the problems of Horizontal mounting that a positive convertor does . Seen many negative convertors stuff up , especially B2's when used with those crappy GRA throttle bodies .
For sure, but it seems to be quite common to mount Impco's flat. I wouldn't do it myself but they at least are tolerant of this as the idle is controlled at the mixer. I don't actually like Impco and its clones but that's another matter.:)
Utemad
10th June 2010, 09:53 PM
It is a Landi Converter. Not the Landi Renzo.
I have been googling and it seems that it should be mounted vertically. But also with the diaphragm lengthways in order for it to not be affected by acceleration and braking.
That is how it was mounted before I pulled it out too.
That certainly narrows the options!
I'll have a look for a drain.
rovercare
10th June 2010, 09:59 PM
Bee Utey , even negative convertors(Impco . Nolfs , OHG , and B2's ) will still suffer the problems of Horizontal mounting that a positive convertor does . Seen many negative convertors stuff up , especially B2's when used with those crappy GRA throttle bodies .
Was always under the impression that B2's should be mounted horizontal, when in big HP installations, what's wrong with gas research carbs? I used one on a blown 3.9 rover, worked a treat, far better than any other mixer I've used......once correctly tuned
rovercare
10th June 2010, 10:07 PM
The reason that they (preferably) need to be horzontal in a GRA setup is due to the spring pressures in the converters being much less than in a "conventional" Impco / Ilko / Gas Ring setup.
If they are vertical in the GRA the mixtures will wander a bit.
In a "conventional" setup it is usually preferable for the converter to be vertical and in the direction of travel.
Just for gas research stuff, learn something new every day
Utemad
10th June 2010, 10:19 PM
The model appears to be 'TIPO LSE 98'.
I've tried to get info on it before with no luck.
Just looked and there is a drain hole on the bottom.
mark2
10th June 2010, 10:31 PM
I think I read on here somewhere that mounting the converter at about the level of the radiator header tank or higher will cause it to freeze up in the event of a big coolant loss, thereby protecting the engine. Whether it will freeze up in time to prevent damage I dont know......
bee utey
11th June 2010, 08:36 AM
I think I read on here somewhere that mounting the converter at about the level of the radiator header tank or higher will cause it to freeze up in the event of a big coolant loss, thereby protecting the engine. Whether it will freeze up in time to prevent damage I dont know......
About right, but height isn't that important if the water flow thru the converter is good. When they freeze due to water loss most people just perservere and get it going on petrol so they can wreck their engine...:o
Utemad
12th June 2010, 07:21 PM
It is all bolted in. Upright and lengthways. Only just fits.
It's all connected up except for the hose between the converter and the air intake. I think I'll end up taking it to an LPG place to get that done as my local hose shop doesn't sell the hose I need.
400HPONGAS
12th June 2010, 08:08 PM
Rovercare , GRA throttle bodys are only good for Supercharged/Turbo installs , for NA they are absolute crap . They are simply way to restrictive to make any real power . Ive spent ebdless hours and money trying to make them deliver anything close to what the actual CFM rating was , The only way to make GRA perform is to gut them out and fit them with annular discharge .(Now im talking 400-500 HP range) My Quad throttle bodeies leave them for dead !!!
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