Soccer World Cup

[Rudolf]

This evening it's Australia vs Germany at 20H30 RSA time.
That would be very, very late in Australia. Around midnight.

[BBC]

This evening it's Australia vs Germany at 20H30 RSA time.
That would be very, very late in Australia. Around midnight.

Rudolf,

How is the atmosphere in RSA? Uganda is rocking and, I'd never considered Uganda to have been as soccer crazy as some other places in Africa. I can only imagine how it is in Ghana.

Unfortunately, I'm in the air when the Australia V Germany game starts, so I'll find out the result when I get to Dubai. Just hope that as many African sides can keep going as far as they can....Africa will go crazy, in a good way.

BBC

[d3syd]

This evening it's Australia vs Germany at 20H30 RSA time.
That would be very, very late in Australia. Around midnight.

Actually I think it will be 4.30am here when the match kicks off. Wish I could stay up to watch, but I have an early start tomorrow.:(

[Rudolf]

Hi BBC,
The atmosphere is crasy. Most cars has RSA flags on them and then quite a lot of other countries too. The most I have seen is from Brazil, Portugal and England.
My company took us for a visit to Soccer City in Soweto.
Quite a amazing place and huge.

[Rudolf]

Actually I think it will be 4.30am here when the match kicks off. Wish I could stay up to watch, but I have an early start tomorrow.:(
Early start=4H30.:D

[juddy]

This evening it's Australia vs Germany at 20H30 RSA time.
That would be very, very late in Australia. Around midnight.

Football world cup!

[Rudolf]

Football world cup!
Yup, thats the thing.
Soccer is the general term we use here.

[juddy]

Yup, thats the thing.
Soccer is the general term we use here.

Yes and in the US too, but its proper term is Football, far too much copying of US terminology here.:wasntme:

England's game this morning was a bit of a let down, hope the Roo's do better in the morning...

[dobbo]

Yes and in the US too, but its proper term is Football, far too much copying of US terminology here.:wasntme:

England's game this morning was a bit of a let down, hope the Roo's do better in the morning...


bit of a let down is an understatement, it was ****ing embarrassing.

World Cup - Group C: England 1 USA 1 - The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/world-cup-2010/news/2010/06/13/world-cup-2010-group-c-england-1-usa-1-86908-22330400/)

[Rudolf]

See this site for a nice interactive calender.

Calendar World Cup 2010 by MARCA.com (http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html)

[banjo]

AUSIE AUSIE AUSIE OI OI OI

[slug_burner]

I should have stayed in bed. It was not good but probably a true reflection of our position on the world soccer ladder.

[subasurf]

haha I knew I should have put money on Germany.

[juddy]

Oh Dear..........

[Rudolf]

I should have stayed in bed. It was not good but probably a true reflection of our position on the world soccer ladder.
Germany is a good team. The Canadian F1 race was nicer to watch.
Webber:D did well but could not match Hamilton.

[BMKal]

Germany is a good team. The Canadian F1 race was nicer to watch.
Webber:D did well but could not match Hamilton.

Yep - the Canadian GP was worth staying up and watching. It was a good race and Hamilton deserved the win.

Went to bed after that - I find soccer boring, regardless of who's playing. And every time I have flicked to SBS to see what's going on, I have to turn the volume down. That constant drone of all those horns blaring non stop reminds me way too much of blowflies on a carcass.

[trobbo]

I liked George Negus's description of Australia in the international football arena. He likened us in economic terms to a developing third world country in it's infancy tying to compete with the economic giants.

Our effort against Germany was woeful and I dont hold out much hope for us progressing beyond the first round

[windsock]

He likened us in economic terms to a developing third world country in it's infancy tying to compete with the economic giant.

Shoots, applying that metaphor we are still bartering blankets, axes, rum and tobacco over here in NZ...

It doesn't stand up to scrutiny really (more likely old legs vs young legs). Latest FIFA rankings (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html)show Germany 6th and Australia 20th. Hardly third world. :angel:

On that same list NZ is 78th and Slovakia are 34th... bring on Slovakia tonight.

[big guy]

We did a dismal effort.
Pity we were up against one the worlds best in round 1.

The pressure we are under now is immense.
That game was as if we never actually in with a chance.

The rest of the world just play such a skilled game, our effort shows we have a long way to go.
Practise-Practise- Practise.

[Rudolf]

There's two games left.
Planty of chance to go through to the next round.
What amased me was our draw against Mexico.
Mexico ranked 17 and RSA only 83.
If We weren't the hosts we would not be there.

[Tombie]

Must say I'm enjoying watching the games on Channel 200 :cool:

The 3d is quite remarkable...

[F4Phantom]

The media around this is ridiculous. We are actually a good team, and we played GERMANY, which is one of the BIG 4 teams this year. The other three include Netherlands (never won a world cup) Spain (won 3 times I think) Brazil (5 times?) and Germany 4. Guys we were never going to win this game, it served as a good shake out, we rested key players another 5 days. In our lot we always had to beat the next two teams, regardless of when. Also remember this the world cup, many very good teams are not competing - because they did not qualify!! (Greece did not qualify for the 2006 world cup after winning the euro cup only months before as I remember) Also remember we have qualified two times in a row and before that only once in the 70's.

We have a very good chance at getting to the next round. But spare a thought for Serbia, they now have to win the next two games as we do, but one of theirs is against Germany!!

[Jedimastermat]

The media around this is ridiculous. We are actually a good team, and we played GERMANY, which is one of the BIG 4 teams this year. The other three include Netherlands (never won a world cup) Spain (won 3 times I think) Brazil (5 times?) and Germany 4. Guys we were never going to win this game, it served as a good shake out, we rested key players another 5 days. In our lot we always had to beat the next two teams, regardless of when. Also remember this the world cup, many very good teams are not competing - because they did not qualify!! (Greece did not qualify for the 2006 world cup after winning the euro cup only months before as I remember) Also remember we have qualified two times in a row and before that only once in the 70's.

We have a very good chance at getting to the next round. But spare a thought for Serbia, they now have to win the next two games as we do, but one of theirs is against Germany!!

Agree entirely F4. Many of the commentry is from those whose background in most things is hang around the winner. Lets invite Easter island to play cricket so we can thump them at a game that has not appreciation outside a few countries. Or we could do what the Yank sdo and have a world series and invite no one, lets call it the AFL allstars.

We were playing a multiple winner in a game we are in the embyronic (sic) stages of developing. Germany played pretty well, we should have had our pencils and paper out leaning every bit we could. We played awful. Friendlies are one thing where you play the X team who wont come out here. Playing the A team in full world cup glory is a good thing. Its also a round robin first round as as been said, so we still have two games to go Serbia have to play Germany after losing to Ghana. Any team that loses two is generally out.

The "experts" will be calling Pim a genius and wanting their "Harry your my best mate we never doubted you it was the other guys" interview if we beat Ghana and Serbia.

more than one game you know
mat

[windsock]

New Zealand 1 - 1 Slovakia

Wohooo go the All Whites :ohyes:

Nil all at half time and a Slovakian goal soon after the restart. Within 2 minutes of time NZ scored the equaliser.

[subasurf]

Saved me a bit of money that draw....phew

[Disco44]

Yup, thats the thing.
Soccer is the general term we use here.

That is what is generally used here in Oz.Soccer so popular over here they have have the competition in summer even then the crowds are miserable.

[3toes]

Soccer not football

The correct name of the game is actually soccer. This came about in 1863 with the creation of the London Football Association (FA) to control the game of soccer. Until then there had been no seperate body for the game known as soccer which had been controlled via part of the much older Rugby Football Association which could trace its lineage back to about 1300.

Use of the term Football for the game of soccer is more about local British political class based one upmanship as soccer was considered the working mans game while Rugby was for the rest. Soccer had split from the establishment by leaving the Rugby Football Association and hence needed to self justify its importance and attempted to achieve this at a local grass roots level by attacking the name of the body they had split from. They did this by taking over the name football previously used to describe Rugby. Hence the use of the term Football for Soccer tends to be a British thing. The rest of the world continued to use the original name of the game.

[Milhouse]

Soccer not football

The correct name of the game is actually soccer. This came about in 1863 with the creation of the London Football Association (FA) to control the game of soccer. Until then there had been no seperate body for the game known as soccer which had been controlled via part of the much older Rugby Football Association which could trace its lineage back to about 1300.

Use of the term Football for the game of soccer is more about local British political class based one upmanship as soccer was considered the working mans game while Rugby was for the rest. Soccer had split from the establishment by leaving the Rugby Football Association and hence needed to self justify its importance and attempted to achieve this at a local grass roots level by attacking the name of the body they had split from. They did this by taking over the name football previously used to describe Rugby. Hence the use of the term Football for Soccer tends to be a British thing. The rest of the world continued to use the original name of the game.

I was under the impression that the 'soccer' moniker came AFTER the formation of the FA (soccer being short for Association), to distinguish it from the many other forms of football played at the time. From memory I think the Rugby Union came later.

Anyway looks like an uphill battle for the Aussie boys, good result for the All Whites though...

[windsock]

If anyone is interested in a satirical comedic book on soccer/football I can recommend you look for Terry Pratchett's "Unseen Academicals".

Pratchett, T (2009). Unseen Academicals. Doubleday ISBN 9780385609340.

If you are a fan of Pratchett's it is not as strong as his previous works but is still a laugh-out-loud good read.

If you have never read any of his previous books, there is a bit of character history you'll be missing but it is still a good read none the less.

I enjoyed the characterisation of "the shove" among many other themes around the game that stands up to a good old p***take. :cool:

[Chad]

I just HOPE all you People are as PASSIONATE about Soccer for the other 3.8 Years that the WORLD CUP isn't on....

Cause its Starting to MAKE me SICK........

If I want to watch something Chasing a Ball Around a paddock....

I will watch MY DOGS...





Chad...

[windsock]

I just HOPE all you People are as PASSIONATE about Soccer for the other 3.8 Years that the WORLD CUP isn't on....

Cause its Starting to MAKE me SICK........

If I want to watch something Chasing a Ball Around a paddock....

I will watch MY DOGS...





Chad...

Let us know when they make it to the FIDO World Cup so we can all enjoy watching them as well... :p

[Chucaro]

Soccer not football
The correct name of the game is actually socce
That it is the typical arrogance of the British, they have to do everything oposed to the rest of the world.
Not football because it is not allowed to use the hands :D
It is football for billons of people and will be called football for ever.
One day the british will come out of the cave and will call it football as well :D :wasntme:

[ghillie]

Go Kiwis!

[Milhouse]

That it is the typical arrogance of the British, they have to do everything oposed to the rest of the world.
Not football because it is not allowed to use the hands :D
It is football for billons of people and will be called football for ever.
One day the british will come out of the cave and will call it football as well :D :wasntme:

It IS called football by nearly everyone in Britain. The term soccer has mostly dropped out of use, but originally was used to distinguish it from other branches of football. Soccer is only still widely used as a term in countries with other strong football codes eg USA, Australia. In the UK no one would think of Rugby (League or Union) if you mentioned football. When I go back to England I get ridiculed by my mates when I occasionally mention soccer! :D

[Disco44]

It is soccer to me and always will be .The term was coined by the Brits yonks ago and now they are trying to call it football. The same with TV station SBS..Soccer Bloody Soccer.

[windsock]

With talk of media reportage of the games previously in this thread I thought this headline was fairly interesting... and enlightening. From John Huxley in the SMH.

Australasia 1 - Slovakia 1: Kiwis get the point (http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/australasia-1--slovakia-1-kiwis-get-the-point-20100616-ydks.html)

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling: :whistling:

[windsock]

No comments about the Australia - Ghanian game last night?

Looking forward to the NZ - Italy game tomorrow morning, everything to gain and nothing to lose. :cool:

[Chucaro]

It is soccer to me and always will be .The term was coined by the Brits yonks ago and now they are trying to call it football. The same with TV station SBS..Soccer Bloody Soccer.

Not coined:
Modern football was born in 1863 when the English Football Association was founded yet the roots of the game stretch back centuries.
The Cambridge Rules, first drawn up at Cambridge University in 1848, were particularly influential in the development of subsequent codes, including association football.

[Rudolf]

No comments about the Australia - Ghanian game last night?

Looking forward to the NZ - Italy game tomorrow morning, everything to gain and nothing to lose. :cool:
Just watched the final wistle blow.
A draw. 1 all.
Well done NZ.

[windsock]

Just watched the final wistle blow.
A draw. 1 all.
Well done NZ.

Wow, 1-1, draw with the world champs. Edge of the seat stuff watching it here, wohoo! :woot::ohyes:

NZ after match commentary are discussing what the All Whites do as living. Surprisingly some are not full time professional footballers.

Some of the stats (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/matches/round=249722/match=300061482/index.html)make for good reading. Some interesting penalty calls.

[Rudolf]

Wow, 1-1, draw with the world champs. Edge of the seat stuff watching it here, wohoo! :woot::ohyes:

NZ after match commentary are discussing what the All Whites do as living. Surprisingly some are not full time professional footballers.

Must say the extra time was quite nerve wrecking!

Not being a full time professional footballer and doing this well just shows the dedication.
Well done again.

[windsock]

Must say the extra time was quite nerve wrecking!

Not being a full time professional footballer and doing this well just shows the dedication.
Well done again.

It was good to hear confidence in the voices of those interveiwed in the aftermatch bit. Seems like the consensus is the job is not done yet.

Paraguay in a few days time. Not much of a turn around.

[Rudolf]

Motivation at the right time goes a long way.

[Chucaro]

We have to be proud of the NZ team, they are not playing for the $$$$ they play for the country:)
Italy got another penalty call..........looks like that Australia and NZ are not allowed to beat the italians :angel:

[incisor]

has always had me amused why people/clubs/countries spend so many millions upon millions of dollars on such a corrupt event.

but it is a spectacle..

[abaddonxi]

has always had me amused why people/clubs/countries spend so many millions upon millions of dollars on such a corrupt event.

but it is a spectacle..

Oh, you're not talking about the Olympics.:D

[CraigE]

has always had me amused why people/clubs/countries spend so many millions upon millions of dollars on such a corrupt event.

but it is a spectacle..

FIFA need to get some uniformity in their decisions and may video umpire now like all other sports. There have been way too many dodgy decisions at the last few World Cups. IMHO both Cahill and Kewell were not even close to red cards and should have been over ruled, but currentlly the refs do not have to answer for their actions. There have been far worse missed including spikes out.
Used to play a bit of soccer and at worst Kewells was a penalty if that as it was top of the shoulder and his arms were straight down and back.
Look may not have changed any result, but refs have to be accountable for blatant bad decisions.
I quite like my Soccer and used to play, but do not usually even watch the World Cup because there is just too many bad refs and actors.

[rick130]

[snip]
but refs have to be accountable for blatant bad decisions.

[snip]

Call me a cynic, but could it be more than just a poor decision ...... ?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

do you mean :o:o:o

which means an agenda,

which means decisions have already been made,

I wonder how much a FIFA Referee goes for these days,,

[F4Phantom]

do you mean :o:o:o

which means an agenda,

which means decisions have already been made,

I wonder how much a FIFA Referee goes for these days,,

These days the refs have a following in their own right. They earn a fortune and want to make a name for them selves. In the old days refs did not stand out, they were simply another job like a medico. But no more, these guys get attention from making big calls and kicking the kewels of the world out. It is a joke and I really hope its not just us but other parts of the world are sick of the inconsistency.

Yellow cards should give you 10 minutes off the field. If you fall over in pain you are unable to take a free kick, if you suddenly get up you get sent off for 10 mins. North korea showed us all how real men play the game. No acting there.

[Tank]

Hey!! whats the go with the swarm of bees sound that you hear at every Soccer match on TV, most annoying, Regards Frank.

[trobbo]

the world cup is turning into a farce with the quality of decisions being made and players diving. I cant believe how many have to be stretchered off.

It's about time the ref's had video replay's and players got sin binned or red cards for diving.

And then what's with the medics making the ghana player lie down on a stretcher with a blood nose :eek:. Stand him up, and walk him off.

With it looking almost inevitable that the aussies will be eliminated after the next game - go NZ :D

[Ferret]

Hey!! whats the go with the swarm of bees sound that you hear at every Soccer match on TV, most annoying, Regards Frank.

Vuvuzelas (trump things). I hope that innovation does not spread else where. But, given the mob mentally, I am resigned to see that party trick spread around the world to all international sport unless specifically banned.

[VladTepes]

Its rigged - Aussies got 2 instant red cards in 2 matches. yeah right.

Apparently theres some bloke n Sydney sells the vuvzela things. Sold 300 last year, but has sold over 1,000 since start of the World Cup ! Grrrrrr.

[Chad]

Im glad i heard that we have no chance of getting through?? From WHAT I hear...

Means I don't have to listen to Every 2nd person talking **** about Soccer when they haven't watched or been Interested in it since the last World Cup....

If only the OLIMPICS could be OVER so Quickly, when the PAINFULL 4 year cycle seems to come round again....

[Chucaro]

Football, Olimpics, Federal and State elections should be held at the same time so we suffer only once :D

[trobbo]

Did anyone watch the Paraguay V Korea match last night?

WOW!

When Paraguay was up 3 - 0 I was hoping for one more so Australia wasn't the only team to get done 4 - 0. Paraguay got that one and they just kept on coming. Final score 7 - 0. and there wasn't a thing Korea could do to stop them.

Oh yeah for the record, I enjoy the soccer outside of the world cup as well.

[windsock]

Did anyone watch the Paraguay V Korea match last night?

WOW!

When Paraguay was up 3 - 0 I was hoping for one more so Australia wasn't the only team to get done 4 - 0. Paraguay got that one and they just kept on coming. Final score 7 - 0. and there wasn't a thing Korea could do to stop them.

Oh yeah for the record, I enjoy the soccer outside of the world cup as well.

I think you mean Portugal 7 - Korea 0

New Zealand plays Paraguay on friday morning this week to decide who goes throughfrom our group.

If NZ draws with Paraguay and Italy draws with Slovakia the coin toss decides... if either NZ and ITA wins they go through. interesting times in Group F.

[trobbo]

:redface: oops, yep of course that is what I wrote, it's just my computer has a virus and keeps on changing what I type

zzzzppp jimmy is the devil zzzzppp zzzzppp jimmy is the devil zzzzppp

[windsock]

:redface: oops, yep of course that is what I wrote, it's just my computer has a virus and keeps on changing what I type

zzzzppp jimmy is the devil zzzzppp zzzzppp jimmy is the devil zzzzppp


:Rolling: Very good.

[DiscoStew]

Wow, 1-1, draw with the world champs. Edge of the seat stuff watching it here, wohoo! :woot::ohyes:

NZ after match commentary are discussing what the All Whites do as living. Surprisingly some are not full time professional footballers.

Some of the stats (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/matches/round=249722/match=300061482/index.html)make for good reading. Some interesting penalty calls.

Well done to you. I'll confess that when I started watching I was reluctantly backing Italy but who can support a team that dives so much. It was ridiculous. NZ played way more honestly and by the end I was sharing your stress in those 4 minutes of extra time.



Vuvuzelas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela) (trump things). I hope that innovation does not spread else where. But, given the mob mentally, I am resigned to see that party trick spread around the world to all international sport unless specifically banned.

Send an email to channel nine and others telling them you won't watch games if the bloody vuvuzelas can be heard. I am getting used to them but it would be enough to turn me off watching sport. It needs to be nipped in the bud before the public get attached to them. I cannot imagine how awful it would be being at a game with them.

[CraigE]

Im glad i heard that we have no chance of getting through?? From WHAT I hear...

Means I don't have to listen to Every 2nd person talking **** about Soccer when they haven't watched or been Interested in it since the last World Cup....

If only the OLIMPICS could be OVER so Quickly, when the PAINFULL 4 year cycle seems to come round again....
Easy answer, dont watch it. I am sure there is stuff you like others detest. I am not fanatical but like my soccer, some of the olympics. Whats wrong with supporting your sports teams when they play every 4 years.
Now if you were talking Master Chef.:twisted:

[windsock]

Wow, South Africa dealt to France, 2-1. France does not progress to the next round. A shame that SA doesn't either.

[Rudolf]

I was still at work when they played.
Was quite nail biting.
We had to win with five goal difference to go to the next round.
It seemed impossible but when France developed internal problem before the match it was quite possible.
The Uruguay Mexico game was on the same time.
RSA had two goals and Uruguay one. Suddenly everybody was all ears.
Only two goals required.
But in the end it was not to be.
Tied for second place on points and only loosing on goal difference.

The same could happen with Australia, if they win it's a tie in second place and only goal difference counts.
New Zealand is already tied for second and looks good.
Nail biting stuff especially if one has to work while listening to a radio too.:D

[maclad]

That it is the typical arrogance of the British, they have to do everything oposed to the rest of the world.
Not football because it is not allowed to use the hands :D
It is football for billons of people and will be called football for ever.
One day the british will come out of the cave and will call it football as well :D :wasntme:

If you are going to take cheap shots at people from behind your computer at least get your facts straight and don't talk rot. Hardly anybody in Britain calls it "soccer" but football - the term which they gave to the game ie: Association Football. It was the upper classes who play rugby that gave it the name "soccer" to distinguish it from egg-chasing. You need to sort your head out mate - if you have a grievance with the British, at least come out with it and don't make a fool of yourself under some other guise.

Refereeing has been shocking - but claims that they favour the "big" teams are way off. Did anyone see Kaka's sending off for Brazil? Although Italy's penalty vs NZ was soft, to say the least, not many people have voiced their objections about New Zealand's goal, which was offside. Still, I'm glad it went unnoticed. Refereeing has been terrible for the last few years and seems to be getting worse. Sometimes it comes as a result of instructions from FIFA for refs to stick rigidly to their edicts ie: Kewell being sent off. It probably was a penalty because it hit enough of his arm to stop it going in but the pen was punishment enough. The refs are having their own discretionary powers taken away from them by the idiots who run the game. Have a look at this for Kaka's 2nd yellow card:

YouTube- Kaka sent off at Brazil vs Ivory Coast REMIX

the Ivory Coast player should be sent home for that piece of work

[windsock]

Although Italy's penalty vs NZ was soft, to say the least, not many people have voiced their objections about New Zealand's goal, which was offside. Still, I'm glad it went unnoticed.

One was playing football and the other was playing possum... :angel:

C'mon Australia tonight against Serbia :D

For those on Facebook, I have just had a facebook link sent to me...

Support the Italian National Diving Team at the FIFA 2010 World Cup (http://en-gb.facebook.com/pages/Support-the-Italian-National-Diving-Team-at-the-FIFA-2010-World-Cup/111019768943418?filter=1)

[trobbo]

bad luck to the ossie boys. A gallant effort and they did themselves proud in their last game.


So far the following teams are through

Group A - Uruguay, Mexico
Group B - Agentina, Korea Republic
Group C - USA, England
Group D - Germany, Ghana
Group E - Netherlands, TBC
Group F - TBC
Group G - Brazil, TBC
Group H - Chile, TBC

Good luck NZ

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The soccoroos first half was indifferent,,
no forward movement at all,,
ten minutes into the second half, two replacements and WOW, a totally different mindset.
I think Pym deserves another run,,

[windsock]

I think Pym deserves another run,,

There is already talk in the NZ media that Ricki Herbert will be coaching the Socceroos next... he is the lowest paid coach over there at NZD50,000 per season to coach the All Whites. He apparently gets NZD200,000 to coach the Phoenix in the A-League. If he does move I hope he does stay with Australasia... :D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Why on earth would NZ let him go?
He's done wonders,,,

[windsock]

With the big money in other parts of the world it is going to come down to lifestyle choice I think.

Full story here (http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-world-cup/all-whites/3842479/Clubs-chase-Ricki-Herbert).



The All Whites' World Cup success could end up being a poisoned chalice – robbing New Zealand of coach Ricki Herbert.
Herbert is attracting interest from Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East as the Kiwi underdogs grab international headlines after their shock 1-1 draw with world champions Italy.
Herbert was reluctant to talk about opportunities after the World Cup, but confirmed yesterday that there had been interest, with people fielding calls on his behalf.
"There are some discussions going on. ... There could be absolutely nothing come out of the discussions, but that's football."
The drums are already beating for Herbert as a potential replacement for outgoing Socceroos coach Pim Verbeek.
So, would the tournament's worst-paid manager fancy coaching Australia?
"I haven't made any decisions yet," he said. "It's a bit hard to make any decisions now, this is where my attention is.
"But you never say never."
Herbert could earn upwards of $1 million coaching club teams overseas, compared with his $50,000 salary for coaching the All Whites part-time and an estimated $200,000 for Wellington Phoenix.
His contract with the national side ends after the World Cup, although he has signed with the Phoenix for another A-League season.
Herbert said other coaches at the World Cup "must laugh" at his $50,000 salary. "They are no different to me, but they're getting $1.5m and will get no points."
Herbert is also in discussions with New Zealand Football about extending his role as All Whites coach.
Key to whether he remains is the programme NZF sees the All Whites having during the next few years and whether his club – the Phoenix at this stage – would let him remain coaching at both club and international level.
He also has a family to factor in when considering overseas opportunities, with two children in their final year of school in Wellington.
Phoenix owner Terry Serepisos said he wanted to keep his star coach. "Ricki's a pretty humble, down-to-earth guy and I would be very surprised if he wants to leave New Zealand.
"If he gets some offers we will sit down and deal with it."

[trobbo]

The soccoroos first half was indifferent

I must admit that I decided to sleep in and only watched the last 30 minutes of the game after watching England qualify last night.


I think Pym deserves another run

I dont think he did a good enough job in our first game against Germany fielding a team that was underdone. OK I accept that it probably wasn't worth playing Harry for the full game given his injury worries and the desire to play him in the next two games, but not at all and to stick Cahill in forward as striker was just silly.

In the end though I think he has plans to be off regardless of what we think.


There is already talk in the NZ media that Ricki Herbert will be coaching the Socceroos next... If he does move I hope he does stay with Australasia... :D

I agree. It would be good if he could continue on with NZ but if he has too move I WANT HIM HERE :D

[CraigE]

Ah yep, Only Australia, New Zealand and Canada call it Soccer. To the rest of the world it is Football. Come to a Glory match and call it soccer in front of the Poms.;) It is true football, AFL as much as I like it should be called pass the ball lately.

If you are going to take cheap shots at people from behind your computer at least get your facts straight and don't talk rot. Hardly anybody in Britain calls it "soccer" but football - the term which they gave to the game ie: Association Football. It was the upper classes who play rugby that gave it the name "soccer" to distinguish it from egg-chasing. You need to sort your head out mate - if you have a grievance with the British, at least come out with it and don't make a fool of yourself under some other guise.

Refereeing has been shocking - but claims that they favour the "big" teams are way off. Did anyone see Kaka's sending off for Brazil? Although Italy's penalty vs NZ was soft, to say the least, not many people have voiced their objections about New Zealand's goal, which was offside. Still, I'm glad it went unnoticed. Refereeing has been terrible for the last few years and seems to be getting worse. Sometimes it comes as a result of instructions from FIFA for refs to stick rigidly to their edicts ie: Kewell being sent off. It probably was a penalty because it hit enough of his arm to stop it going in but the pen was punishment enough. The refs are having their own discretionary powers taken away from them by the idiots who run the game. Have a look at this for Kaka's 2nd yellow card:

YouTube- Kaka sent off at Brazil vs Ivory Coast REMIX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj2T3xeEWe8)

the Ivory Coast player should be sent home for that piece of work

[Rudolf]

egg-chasing.

That's a new one.:D

[Rudolf]

Ah yep, Only Australia, New Zealand and Canada call it Soccer. To the rest of the world it is Football. Come to a Glory match and call it soccer in front of the Poms.;) It is true football, AFL as much as I like it should be called pass the ball lately.

South Africa too.:)

[windsock]

The All Whites will be playing in their alternate strip tonight - All Black. Hope it is a good omen, c'mon the All Whites! :D

[windsock]

Paraguay 0 - 0 New Zealand.

Slovakia 3 - 2 Italy

Paraguay and Slovakia go through to the final 16.

Pretty ordinary game but we came out above Italy on the points table :D and we remain undefeated in the pool games. :o

[trobbo]

Well I'm not so embarrassed by our loss to Germany now with them having pulled yet another 4 goal haul, this time against arguably a much better opposition. Hey Australia restricted them to 4 goals whilst playing with only 10 men.

Germany are my tip for the title this year.

[windsock]

Germany are my tip for the title this year.

Yes, I think so also. However, the NZ bookies don't back this one...

Germany vs Spain (https://www.tab.co.nz/sport/#351): NZ TAB are paying NZD2.70 for a win against Spain but are paying NZD2.50 for Spain to win... interesting.

To win the World Cup (https://www.tab.co.nz/sport/#499): Spain are paying NZD2.85 to win the tournament while Germany and Netherlands are NZD3.00 to win the cup. Uruguay are paying NZD12.00...

[trobbo]

windsock your rugby players are called the all blacks

your soccer players are called the all whites

What are your badminton players called?

[windsock]

windsock your rugby players are called the all blacks

your soccer players are called the all whites

What are your badminton players called?

:Rolling:
:Rolling:

Nah, won't go there... this site is supposedly PG Rated, you know, campfire with kids around... needless (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/nz_badminton_kerfuffle/) to say (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10345531) some won't stand for it and cold water has been poured on the idea and the governing body has since gone soft on it so their name is being reconsidered... :D

[trobbo]

I'm dissapointed. Your brave enough to turn up to South Africa, of all places, with a team called the all whites and you can't even tell what monica the badminton players are going to fly by. :angel:


the governing body has since gone soft on it

:D

[windsock]

I'm dissapointed. Your brave enough to turn up to South Africa, of all places, with a team called the all whites and you can't even tell what monica the badminton players are going to fly by. :angel:
:D

Yep...! ;)

It made me laugh when the sport admin was asked by a leading prophylactic manufacturer if it could become a sponsor... :p:twisted:

[DiscoStew]

Refereeing has been shocking - but claims that they favour the "big" teams are way off. Did anyone see Kaka's sending off for Brazil?

That was an atrocious decision. However given Kaka's behaviour earlier he only has himself to blame if referees are predisposed to finding him guilty.

He kind of disgusts me but I love watching him play.

[trobbo]

I thought Robinho was far worse than Kaka for his unsportsmanlike behaviour. guess they got what they deserved in the end.

[trobbo]

well done to the dutch. With Uruguay cheating to get past Ghana :mad: they didn't deserve to go any further.

[windsock]

well done to the dutch. With Uruguay cheating to get past Ghana :mad: they didn't deserve to go any further.

yep, fully agree there. Does soccer have a penaly goal rule in the case of such a professional foul or is the penalty shot and red card as harsh as can be given in such cases of game saving cheating? I was gutted ghana lost out to such a move.

Go Germany tomorrow. That'd set up a pretty exciting match I think... :D

[trobbo]

penalty shot and red card is as harsh as it gets.

There are two extremes of the call. Consider the Harry Kewell incident and then compare that to the deliberate hand ball of Luis Suarez.

Because Harry's came early into the game Australia were forced to play with 10 men for an extended period of time. The argument that Harry's handball was premeditated was also pretty weak. Suarez's play was in the dying seconds of the game and had no significant detrimental impact on his team. There was a very stong argument that his hand ball was deliberate.

As has been shown in this world cup there are lots of issues with the rules of game and how they are applied. Perhaps the ref should be allowed to either award the goal if it was obviously going in or allow a penalty shot if perhaps the shot would of missed, or even make it a goal regardless if the action occurred after the 60th minute.

Lots of options and possibilities to make the game fair but one thing for sure is they need to bring in video ref's at the elite level to help the man on the pitch make the right decision.

[windsock]

Go Spain, great game to watch. Spain 1 - 0 Germany. Unpicked the Germans time and time again. Can't remember now why I wanted Germany to win this... ;)

Looking forward to the final. All the sweeter for Spain and first time in the final two apparently.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

thanks for that Windsock,
there's a certain "fellow" at work that I might inform of the score---;):twisted:

[windsock]

Well, that was a rather dour affair...



Spain 1 - 0 Netherlands after 118 minutes of playing

13 yellow cards (8 from Netherlands)
1 red card (Netherlands)
28 fouls from Netherlands, 19 from Spain
Overly officious refereeing
Wild flurries of thespian antics encouraged by the cards
A few outbursts of football.... :|
Thank goodness for Rugby...

[windsock]

OK, heres a question for the trivial pursuit players...

Which team is the only unbeaten team at this years world cup?

:question:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

was it eNZed?

[windsock]

was it eNZed?

:twobeers: :thumbsup:

[trobbo]

Your too fast. I was about to congratulate NZ on being the 2010 world cup champions. The only unbeaten team in the competition.

[Auspec31]

Spain Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MickS]

13 yellow cards (8 from Netherlands)
1 red card (Netherlands)
28 fouls from Netherlands, 19 from Spain
Overly officious refereeing
Wild flurries of thespian antics encouraged by the cards
A few outbursts of football.... :|

Thank goodness for Rugby... :)

With plenty of outbursts of drop the hankie...how the hell can that be the "world game"? I'm sorry, but to see grown men fall down in excruciating agony, when all they did was trip on a blade of grass, disgusts me no end. Bring on the RWC in NZ next year....

[Disco44]

:)

With plenty of outbursts of drop the hankie...how the hell can that be the "world game"? I'm sorry, but to see grown men fall down in excruciating agony, when all they did was trip on a blade of grass, disgusts me no end. Bring on the RWC in NZ next year....

Check this out,it will put more then a smile on your faces.

John

[Disco44]

Check this out,it will put more then a smile on your faces.

John

Left this out.

[windsock]

What annoys me is that the kids watching the "drop the hankie" theatrics will see it being vindicated by the yellow cards and therefore think it is sweet to flop... :mad:

On the basis of what we've seen the last few weeks I think FIFA have to bring the integrity back in so many ways - it is all a bit of a sad joke at the moment.

[windsock]

Left this out.

:ohyes: Good summary... bring on the tri-nations and the RWC 2011

[MickS]

Gotta love Tana's face in this one...:eek:

YouTube- The Haka - War Dance Rugby

oops, sorry about the hijack...:D

[trobbo]

What annoys me is that the kids watching the "drop the hankie" theatrics will see it being vindicated by the yellow cards and therefore think it is sweet to flop... :mad:.

Unfortunately I think you are right. On the weekend my sons U9 team were short a few players so we raided the U7's and pulled one of the boys into the team.

He scores a goal and does a timmy cahill run to the corner flag. Interestingly he is the only boy who really gets into the theatrics, but I do know he watches a bit of the premier league as well.

[windsock]

Gotta love Tana's face in this one...:eek:

YouTube- The Haka - War Dance Rugby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cle20lQg0Qs&feature=related)

oops, sorry about the hijack...:D

Hey, rugby is a welcome hijack from soccer like this was... :D

Yep, the All Blacks get fired up with that one - Kapa o Pango.

Check out the Haka (and tries) from the NZ Maori playing the English in June...

YouTube- NZ Maori vs England / Haka & tries!

[VladTepes]

The octopus was right again, eh !

Wonder if it tipped Weber as well ?

[MickS]

Check out the Haka
YouTube- NZ Maori vs England / Haka & tries! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HtVivhwYQM&feature=player_embedded)

I don't care what your sport is...is there anything more fearsome than having to stand in front of that on a sporting field? I doubt it....love it!!