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101RRS
18th June 2010, 02:40 PM
Earlier this week I ungraded from WIN XP to Win 7. I really do not see what the fuss is about - doesn't seem to do much better and have now lost Outlook Express so looking for new email software and some drivers are not compatible - but that is another story.
As part of the upgrade I ticked the compress hard drive box and now the computer will not boot. A message comes up that "Bootmgr Compressed" hit Ctrl Alt Del to restart but nothing happens. I guess the bios cannot read boot files on the disk.
I have tried a Win 7 repair but it comes up that there are no issues with OS. Likewise I have tried to go back to a restore point but being a new installation I have not created one and Win7 has not done any automatic ones.
At the moment I am putting a basic instal of Windows XP on my second data drive in the hope that I can gain access to the main drive through that, and "uncompress" the main drive.
Any other thoughts on how to get my computer to start?
Garry
Lionel
18th June 2010, 05:29 PM
Earlier this week I ungraded from WIN XP to Win 7. I really do not see what the fuss is about - doesn't seem to do much better and have now lost Outlook Express so looking for new email software and some drivers are not compatible - but that is another story.
As part of the upgrade I ticked the compress hard drive box and now the computer will not boot. A message comes up that "Bootmgr Compressed" hit Ctrl Alt Del to restart but nothing happens. I guess the bios cannot read boot files on the disk.
I have tried a Win 7 repair but it comes up that there are no issues with OS. Likewise I have tried to go back to a restore point but being a new installation I have not created one and Win7 has not done any automatic ones.
At the moment I am putting a basic instal of Windows XP on my second data drive in the hope that I can gain access to the main drive through that, and "uncompress" the main drive.
Any other thoughts on how to get my computer to start?
Garry
Is there anything in the BIOS you need to change to enable boot-up from a compressed drive? Just a thought.
Cheers,
Lionel
Ferret
18th June 2010, 06:20 PM
I assume you have looked around the internet?? Here is a start bootmgr compressed message boot fix (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/202609-bootmgr-compressed-message-boot-fix.html). Should work for win7, but that is just a guess. Or here bootmgr is compressed in windows 7 (http://windows7themes.net/bootmgr-is-compressed-in-windows-7.html)
djam1
18th June 2010, 07:11 PM
Garry
Doing an upgrade install and or compressing hard drives extremely bad practice. Even Microsoft in their professional training tell us NOT to do upgrade installs.
Do a clean install and don't compress your hard drive they are dirt cheap and things will be much more reliable.
This doesnt solve your immediate problem but if you follow the relevant instructions in the previous post you may be able to get it to boot.
101RRS
18th June 2010, 10:10 PM
I assume you have looked around the internet?? Here is a start bootmgr compressed message boot fix (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/202609-bootmgr-compressed-message-boot-fix.html). Should work for win7, but that is just a guess. Or here bootmgr is compressed in windows 7 (http://windows7themes.net/bootmgr-is-compressed-in-windows-7.html)
Great stuff - the second one in particular seems the way to go. However as I indicated in my first post, I did a quick install of XP on my D drive - and the uncompressed the C drive which took a few hours but it worked.
I understand concerns about compressed drives but have never had an issue since the days of Windows 3.1 but it does seem that Win 7 does not like it at all.
Thanks for all the comments.
Cheers
Garry
zuno555
19th June 2010, 07:04 AM
I have to agree with what has already been said. If there is nothing irreplaceable on the drive then kill (format) it and start fresh. Everything valuable should have already been backed up prior to xp>win7 upgrade anyway...
ALWAYS better to clean install, even better to quick format drive when installing to completely wipe it.
Never used compression, and don't recommend it. Most things that take up space can't be compressed much anyway - video and pics are already compressed. All it does is slow down computer, albeit not much but still. 1TB drives under $90, why bother with compression.
Been using Win 7 since its free release candidate, and has been great on my PC. Very stable, fast, and pretty. I use sleep mode all the time, only reset computer every few weeks. Wakes up from sleep in under 4 seconds. Uses less than 5w power whilst in sleep mode, so costs nothing.
I find it difficult to believe that you can't find drivers for some hardware. Even vista and some xp drivers work in win7.
I use hotmail and gmail, so can't comment on lack of outlook express. There are free email clients tho if you don't like webmail.
Use Win7 for a while and I am sure you will end up liking it. As long as your computer has more than 1gb ram it should run fine for basics.
one_iota
19th June 2010, 12:46 PM
In lieu of Outlook Express we are using Mozilla Thunderbird (freeware).
It does everything OE did plus more:
It is very easy to set up all of your accounts on one platform and to import mail and contacts from both OE and Outlook. Big thumbs up from me.
Mick-Kelly
19th June 2010, 01:00 PM
Take it back to the store, get a refund and ask for a mac. Plug it in and in one click import all of your files, settings and software, itunes, photos and web/email info across to the new machine, enjoy.
disco gazza
19th June 2010, 02:04 PM
hey mick
you got desktop or macbook?
Mick-Kelly
19th June 2010, 02:13 PM
2 x macbook pros, 1 x linux desktop, 1 x windows desktop (wifes)
stuee
19th June 2010, 02:43 PM
I've found W7 to be great so far but I agree with what others have said and do a fresh install, and steer clear of compression. I recently put W7 on my desktop (tripple booted with XP and Ubuntu) and an old vaio laptop. I've found the W7 OS uses less resources than a fully updated XP OS. XP with no updates is lightning fast but add all the security updates etc and it just bogs down.
101RRS
21st June 2010, 11:29 AM
I find it difficult to believe that you can't find drivers for some hardware. Even vista and some xp drivers work in win7.
Took some time to find my printer drivers but did manage in the end - were not in the standard Win 7 package. Likewise my Canoscan 1220 scanner will not work - says I need a WIA driver but I cannot find one anywhere that works - no scanner is not listed on the canon website for use with win 7.
My motherboard is also not 100% compatible but is running on Win 7 drivers but I have no sound from my onboard sound as the Win 7 drivers do not seem to support it. I will hunt out an old sound blaster card I have and try that.
Garry
stuee
21st June 2010, 11:42 AM
My motherboard is also not 100% compatible but is running on Win 7 drivers but I have no sound from my onboard sound as the Win 7 drivers do not seem to support it. I will hunt out an old sound blaster card I have and try that.
Garry
Have you tried installing the XP drivers? I installed XP graphic drivers on my old Vaio laptop as Sony had not brought out any new drivers for Win7 (most wouldn't upgrade the OS as the laptop is nearly at the end of its life). The installation program executed fine within Windows 7 and now I have full resolution on my screen (as opposed to 1024*768). Worth a shot perhaps??
Ferret
21st June 2010, 12:16 PM
no scanner is not listed on the canon website for use with win 7.
The driver listed here (http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/34123-need-driver-canon-canoscan-n1220u-2.html) is said to work, if in fact, that is the same scanner model as yours. May be it a go.
richard4u2
21st June 2010, 04:05 PM
windows has a program you can run to see if your computer is compatible to upgrade to win7
101RRS
21st June 2010, 07:50 PM
Have you tried installing the XP drivers? I installed XP graphic drivers on my old Vaio laptop as Sony had not brought out any new drivers for Win7 (most wouldn't upgrade the OS as the laptop is nearly at the end of its life). The installation program executed fine within Windows 7 and now I have full resolution on my screen (as opposed to 1024*768). Worth a shot perhaps??
The WIA message is what I got after I installed the drivers I used in XP.
101RRS
2nd July 2010, 09:56 AM
Still sorting some issues associated with Win 7. One is Windows updates. At present there are about 30 language packs that Windows wants to load but I do not want them so at each update they sit there annoying me. With XP you could tell windows not to list them again - can you do this with Win 7. I assume so as there is a menu to "unhide" hidden updates but I cannot find how to hide them.
Any ideas
Ferret
2nd July 2010, 10:10 AM
Left click to select the update you want to hide then right click to reveal a drop down menu. Choose 'Hide Update'.
101RRS
2nd July 2010, 10:44 AM
Thanks for that - just what I was after
Cheers
Garry
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