Torn Between Two Places

[Rangier Rover]

Hard to explain this but I'm sure you lot would understand.:)

As most of you are aware I have a new MN Triton and still have my older Rovers.

I have always been an avid 4X4 enthusiast so that never changed.;)

You knew how you get that new car feeling normally when you get something fresh. Well, it didn't happen with the Triton.:confused:

When we used to go for a trip in the Rangie it always had some sort of a soul attached, was fun to drive and had character. Used to look forward to every trip:)

As for the Triton, Even somewhat tricked up, Doesn't have the soul of the Rover.

We're working up to a Trip to Tas etc and I'm not real keen on going unless we get the Rangie back on the road.
I must be crazy, dumping a new reliable vehicle for a known problem child on a trip like this.:D

Does this make sense to any of you?

Maybe I should put AYI back on the road;)

Cheers Tony

[blitz]

Totally understand, my 94 disco is starting to look like grandads axe - not much original left, but I wouldn't get rid of it. We are selling the 10 year newer Prado to downsize and buying a city car. The landy has nowhere near the level of finesse of the Prado but selling the landy didn't even enter the conversation

[p38arover]

As for the Triton, Even somewhat tricked up, Doesn't have the soul of the Rover.

We're working up to a Trip to Tas etc and I'm not real keen on going unless we get the Rangie back on the road.
I must be crazy, dumping a new reliable vehicle for a known problem child on a trip like this.:D

Does this make sense to any of you?


I know exactly what you mean. My wife has a current model Subaru Forester.

If we go anywhere and I'm driving, I'll take the Rangie. I do not enjoy driving the Subaru.

[akovach]

Is there a Japanese car with soul?? ;)

[Cap]

At any rate Tony, you HAVE TO BRING the Rangie as theres 4wd tracks you need to explore ;)

[windsock]

Is there a Japanese car with soul?? ;)

I once owned (or was owned) by a nissan vanette. It was evil... pure and simple. Does that count?

[B92 8NW]

Oh my god, another thread about this "soul" notion. These are all manifestations in one's own head!:D

[Chucaro]

My only other vehicles that have a soul to me were my 3 Cortina GT.
I have before a 109 Stage 1 (10seater) a Disco, a Rangie and now a Tdi Defe.
The best touring car ever was the Rangie and the "matador" was the 109 :)
For some reason all the drivers used to look at the 109 with respect on the intersections, no so much the Defe.
May be was the bull bar with the gun box attached on it :angel:

[PAT303]

Oh my god, another thread about this "soul" notion. These are all manifestations in one's own head!:D

Dunno,I've spent the last three days in a cruiser wagon and I still can't see what people see in them,.There is nothing exciting about holidaying in a bland,dull vehicle,you need something with the ''it'' factor. Pat

[Utemad]

I drive a brand new Hilux 4wd for work. When I take it out all I can think of is how much better my Disco1 is. I like the engine in the Hilux but the rest of it is crap. Doesn't even have cruise control.

[clean32]

uumm i come home and the county is not in the drive way but the Honda is. SWMBO is out shopping again

[adonuff]

I have to drive a triton for work, and to make it worse its not even a 4wd, I hate it, too low to the ground, uncomfortable little buzz box, that has no charater at all. No central locking wind up windows and at 100k's makes so much road noise you have to have the radio up full.

To make it worse I keep turning the wipers on every time I indicate and it gets bogged everytime I drive off the bitumen. The only good thing about it is I dont have to pay for it.

When I get back in the Discovery on the weekends it feels like heaven in comparison. (1990 triton twincab ute)

[adonuff]

uumm i come home and the county is not in the drive way but the Honda is. SWMBO is out shopping again

Thats the other annoying thing the VW Golf is always in the Garage and the Girlfriend is out having fun in the Discovery

[ugu80]

Is there a Japanese car with soul?? ;)

Datsun Fairlady?

[digger]

Oh my god, another thread about this "soul" notion. These are all manifestations in one's own head!:D

have you perchance noticed you are the SOUL preponant of this view?

believe in UFOs but not in soul..... MMMM

I think that once you make up your mind to see it, you will (thats soul or ufo!.... or even a soul ufo)


(yes I know its spelt incorrectly in a number of contexts)

[B92 8NW]

have you perchance noticed you are the SOUL preponant of this view?

believe in UFOs but not in soul..... MMMM

I think that once you make up your mind to see it, you will (thats soul or ufo!.... or even a soul ufo)


(yes I know its spelt incorrectly in a number of contexts)

I do not believe in UFOs and immaterial parts of the body (ie souls) inter alia.

If my avatar is that misleading, I'll remove it.

But I think you've summed it up pretty well and validated my argument. "...make your mind up to see it, you will". Bit like religious people...

[digger]

I do not believe in UFOs and immaterial parts of the body (ie souls) inter alia.

If my avatar is that misleading, I'll remove it.

was in jest!!... I was trying to get the word play in...sorry if Ive upset you it wasnt at all my intention...(was after the cheap laugh!.... like -"sometimes I just think funny things" the arthur movie...)


:D <- im not sure this will help but i'll try anything!!

[B92 8NW]

was in jest!!... I was trying to get the word play in...sorry if Ive upset you it wasnt at all my intention...(was after the cheap laugh!.... like -"sometimes I just think funny things" the arthur movie...)


:D <- im not sure this will help but i'll try anything!!

LOL, no I'm not upset. I'll admit it did go right over my head but:D

The only advice or question I can offer on track to the OP, is why did you buy a Triton if it doesn't satiate the "soul" criteria? Would a 110DC/130 have fitted the bill better?

[Chops]

uumm i come home and the county is not in the drive way but the Honda is. SWMBO is out shopping again


Thats the other annoying thing the VW Golf is always in the Garage and the Girlfriend is out having fun in the Discovery



Can't believe you guys' give your girls' the keys to your Girls',,,,

Wow man,, thats love,,,:wasntme:

[catch-22]

Is there a Japanese car with soul?? ;)

soul? unsure....but some are certainly interesting....and I like interesting things..no matter where they're from..

[justinc]

Tony. Life is TOO SHORT to drive boring cars.

If you enjoy the RR, and it is reliable,(Very important in a trip/ touring vehicle) then go for it. I can not imagine touring in anything other than the Rangie. Nor can SWMBO:D

JC

[LandyAndy]

My work Rodeo hasnt got a soul,for that matter it hasnt got a heart either.
They arent even made in Japan any more.You will find the Rodeo/Colarado/Dmax/Triton/Ranger/BT50 and HiLux are all made in the Phillipines these days.
Andrew

[87County]

Hard to explain this but I'm sure you lot would understand.:)

As most of you are aware I have a new MN Triton and still have my older Rovers.

I have always been an avid 4X4 enthusiast so that never changed.;)

You knew how you get that new car feeling normally when you get something fresh. Well, it didn't happen with the Triton.:confused:

When we used to go for a trip in the Rangie it always had some sort of a soul attached, was fun to drive and had character. Used to look forward to every trip:)

As for the Triton, Even somewhat tricked up, Doesn't have the soul of the Rover.

We're working up to a Trip to Tas etc and I'm not real keen on going unless we get the Rangie back on the road.
I must be crazy, dumping a new reliable vehicle for a known problem child on a trip like this.:D

Does this make sense to any of you?

Maybe I should put AYI back on the road;)

Cheers Tony

as I recall, you did tell us in advance of what you were thinking of purchasing and I believe you were (diplomatically) advised about the options.... :)

and I also seem to recall that there used to be an ad - about something being the heart and soul of 4 wheel driving - it's never over in a rover apparently :D

[warren9981]

I know the feeling.
I drive a brand new Hyundai I30CW for work, (really nice car).
I will still shift it out of the way so that I can take my V8 Disco down to the shops. SWMBO thinks I'm crazy but I just love the sound of the V8 and the "soul" of the Landy.:)
I don't care if work pays for the fuel in the i30 I would still rather take the Disco.:)

[The ho har's]

If it is any help Tony we will be down there with our touring truck the 130 in Dec:):o and we love driving it:D you just need to get yours ready thats all;)

Mrs hh:angel:

hang on you may need to add an extra seat or cab sorry for got it was a single cab:o:D;)

[Rangier Rover]

Thankfully I have the 120 or I'd be insane by now;) Spend most of my time in it anyway thank goodness.
The Triton serves us well as a no BS family tractor and my wife feels safe with it. Doesn't bother me as a family driver at all. So happy with that.
It has just daunted on me I don't really want to travel south with it let alone north.:D Had a bit of a discussion with the family over this today.
The outcome......
We get the Rangie back on the road. Will it be reliable? Who knows? Anything may happen with a vehicle of its age. I will do all the essentials and Carry a few spares.
Should be OK in Tas as a few members over there if we get in strife:angel:
As my wife puts it, the trip will be an adventure and if something goes wrong we just make comedy out of it.
Bit like when I submerged the Rangie on Morton Island and the water came through the vents! My wife laughed till she saw a jet of water entering her hand bag via the floor vents. Then I laughed for a short time:twisted:
Can still see the kids CD's floating around in the back.:o
As you can imagine things went bad for the AMP under the seat:eek: Some how the ECU and relays survived.

[abaddonxi]

You've got the skills, you've got the tools. Now all you need is a satphone and mobile broadband.:D

[Frenchie]

Soul, character, je ne sais quois........

Whatever you want to call it, I reckon it's real, some vehicles are just so much more fun and satisfying to drive than others.

As you mentioned there are knowledgeable members in Tassie if you get in trouble...;)

[Disco_owner]

I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before Tony ,but My Rangie will be up for sale as I need funds to repaire my roof and sadly I'm going to miss it. :(:(:(:(

[Sprint]

i still dont understand why you bought the triton!

[justinc]

i still dont understand why you bought the triton!

I can see why.

I have a safe, reliable and easy to maintain family car, and a fun, reliable (Until I break things on it) character filled, much travelled, adored, modified, lovingly maintained, scratched, dust filled Rangie for touring and offroading (When I get time...).

Tony doesn't have a car as the roads out where he is would destroy one, but I reckon If he was town living he'd have a safe, simple, boringly reliable car too.

My 2.25c.:)


JC

[Shonky]

I'm in the same situation here. The missus drives a boring AU Falcon and we also have the Rangie.

The Falcon is simple, reliable and cheap.
The Rangie looks like a POS, has more niggly quirks than me and chews juice like nothing else.

Yet we take the Rangie everywhere. The Falcon is much less comfortable on long trips, but faster. The 'soul' aspect comes into it too. :)

[justinc]

I'm in the same situation here. The missus drives a boring AU Falcon and we also have the Rangie.

The Falcon is simple, reliable and cheap.
The Rangie looks like a POS, has more niggly quirks than me and chews juice like nothing else.

Yet we take the Rangie everywhere. The Falcon is much less comfortable on long trips, but faster. The 'soul' aspect comes into it too. :)

:o....Don't start that soul discussion again shonky!!!:D:D:D:p


I was too scared to say it meeself......:wasntme:


JC

[Rangier Rover]

^^^^ pretty much sums it up. If I only needed a car it would have been more up spec than the Trytoo for the same $$$.

Had to get something safe and reliable for my wife to use. Has over 20000 kms on it already:o

We use it for night trips to Sydney and animal impacts do happen around here. We also tow a Double horse float and carry all the other crap needed for them.

Have to carry chemical and gas bottles in the tray.

We had a look at the 130 and 110 pick up and seems familiar to the old 120 with in cab economics:o I wasn't very impressed with the postie van engine either:(

The D4 and Range Rover were out of out budget this time.
Beside we really needed the duel cab this time around.

Value for money, SRS,TC, ASC, reliable, good warranty, OK performance, Full chassis, practical etc. Does fine for the above:)

Just has no sole:p Does have a heart though:twisted:

My wife is talking about buying me a two post hoist for next fathers day:cool: I better be good to her:angel:
Now, where is that chain saw, lawn mower, hedge trimmer, coffee maker, etc. Better do a load of washing as well:o;);)

We get the Rangie back on the road and life will be great:)
For Tas I will completely strip the front and rear diffs, swivels,brakes etc. Put all maxi drive gear in with 4.11 cwps and HD steering gear.
I will leave the rest pretty much stock and run 31" tyres.
The weakest link will be the old 3.5 and BW transfer. May as well run her into the ground.
Back to the old Rangie thread. The 120 is going fine and have got those iron horses going again:cool:
The workshop is clear again:D

[adonuff]

Can't believe you guys' give your girls' the keys to your Girls',,,,

Wow man,, thats love,,,:wasntme:

Nothing to do with Love ( Maybe a little bit:D) But if she doesnt drive it a few times during the week the battery goes flat and I have to spend hours charging it on the weekend instead of driving it

[The ho har's]

Can't believe you guys' give your girls' the keys to your Girls',,,,

Wow man,, thats love,,,:wasntme:


Well hh drive's the disco to work everyday and sometimes the fender;) all the others are mine after all:o

Mrs hh:angel:

[5teve]

We solved the issue.. She has a Transit (puma engined) and the Disco II and i have the defender.. i still have a landy to drive regardless!

Steve

[tony66_au]

Tony its probably more that the Rangies have Character,

you love them and they love you back,

You punish them and they punish you back (Not ALWAYS a bad thing),

You sit high in the saddle with excellent vision,

And weirdly enough my 26 year old RR has a better ride long distance than my Daily Euro thumper.

And lastly........

I get nods, waves and the odd quick flash (High beam not body bits sadly) from other Classic RR and Landy owners.

Something you don't get from many other marques.

Plasti-repmobiles are great for that 4am airport dash or ferrying the kids to school when you NEED reliability etc but If I was to go driving somewhere for fun on a planned trip?

Id take the Rangie.

Tony

[The ho har's]

Tony its probably more that the Rangies have Character,

you love them and they love you back,

You punish them and they punish you back (Not ALWAYS a bad thing),

You sit high in the saddle with excellent vision,

And weirdly enough my 26 year old RR has a better ride long distance than my Daily Euro thumper.

And lastly........

I get nods, waves and the odd quick flash (High beam not body bits sadly) from other Classic RR and Landy owners.

Something you don't get from many other marques.

Plasti-repmobiles are great for that 4am airport dash or ferrying the kids to school when you NEED reliability etc but If I was to go driving somewhere for fun on a planned trip?

Id take the Rangie.

Tony



yep yep yep what he ^^^^^said


Mrs hh:angel:

[Bigbjorn]

Bit like when I submerged the Rangie on Morton Island and the water came through the vents! My wife laughed till she saw a jet of water entering her hand bag via the floor vents. Then I laughed for a short time:twisted:
Can still see the kids CD's floating around in the back.:o
As you can imagine things went bad for the AMP under the seat:eek: Some how the ECU and relays survived.

RR's have a history of impersonating U-boats on Moreton Island.

Back in my Leyland days when RR's were in short supply and every one we got was pre-sold several times, The Qld. Manager reluctantly allowed one to be registered as a demonstrator/display vehicle. The Retail Sales manager and one of the reps took it to Moreton for a fishing weekend, got on the rum, and sunk it on an inside beach.

The Qld. GM somewhat less than amused, issued an edict that anyone found with a company vehicle on a beach was in serious danger of losing their job.

In less than a year since taking on the LR/RR distribution, staff had submerged an 88" ute at Redland Bay whilst crabbing, and put a station wagon sideways down a big dune on Fraser Island. This one was stopped from tumbling A over T by sliding into a tree halfway down. Had to get a rough terrain crane over to recover it.

At that time, station wagons were in shorter supply than RR's as LR had sold most of production to the UN.