What is behind the rear trim?

[Gullible]

Trying to work out where to put the gas tanks in a P38, with out having to relocate the spare wheel.

What is behind the side trim in the rear load space?

The drivers side has a recess but the passenger side does not. I'm not adverse to cutting the trim to fit a doughnut tank as far up against the body as possible.

Is this a good idea or are there too many wires and body frame bits behind the trim?

ps I still do not have a P38 yet, but I want to have a strong case to put to SWMBO when the time comes:angel:

[wayneg]

Trying to work out where to put the gas tanks in a P38, with out having to relocate the spare wheel.

What is behind the side trim in the rear load space?

The drivers side has a recess but the passenger side does not. I'm not adverse to cutting the trim to fit a doughnut tank as far up against the body as possible.

Is this a good idea or are there too many wires and body frame bits behind the trim?

ps I still do not have a P38 yet, but I want to have a strong case to put to SWMBO when the time comes:angel:

A Sub woofer if fitted and I think a cd changer. Just under the trim at the top lots of bits for the aerial. I have mine setup so If I need more load space I can Quickly remove the Sub. I recon theres about 25litres of space

[bee utey]

The size of gas tank would be minuscule. 100 - 150km per tank? For comparison the biggest donut that goes in the well holds 68lts of gas for 300 - 400km. Does anyone know of a space saver spare tyre suitable for the P38?

[wayneg]

Not sure of the Size of donut tank in Oz but in the UK they are 88 litres.

[Gullible]

I am trying to avoid having the spare wheel fixed on an external swing arm as SWMBO will need to open the boot regularly to put prams in/out and lifting them over the bottom door is not going to be appealing to her.

Could I put a tank on each side and have them connected so they fill from the same point and feed the same pump?

[81stubee]

When I was looking at it a while ago, i also did not want to move the spare tyre. At the time I spoke to PPI who were making a tank to suit the Ford Territory that would be a triangle shape and would most like fit where the existing tank is. Then you could custom build a petrol tank to fit in around the transfew box and exhaust etc...

But from what I understand the PPI conformable tanks cost upwards of $2K so quite pricey.

Stu

[DT-P38]

IMHO Junosi has the best 'onboard' spare relocation solution I have seen... standing up on one side (the right from memory). I also feel using the well for a tank is probably the best range/budget compromise.

I have donut is the spare well and my spare laying in the rear compartment (anchored to floor) around town. I never have a problem with enough space for the needs of 3 kids, 1 pram and shopping.

At the moment when out of town/off road the spare goes in a basket on roof bars. One day it will be going on a swing arm when out of town/off roading.

[bee utey]

I am trying to avoid having the spare wheel fixed on an external swing arm as SWMBO will need to open the boot regularly to put prams in/out and lifting them over the bottom door is not going to be appealing to her.

Could I put a tank on each side and have them connected so they fill from the same point and feed the same pump?

Certainly you can use twin tanks, after all this is the set-up in a D1. But you still have space issues - even 20 litre (usable) tanks are 203mm diameter and 840mm long. Having the spare in the back is a reasonable option if you remove the sub box on the left. It is possible to build an anchor bracket so the spare is bolted through the tyre hatch with a 12mm H/T bolt. To lift the hatch for access to the tools you just need to unscrew it. Junosi's method of fixing the spare vertically is another good idea.

The pic shows a '96 I converted with a donut tank.

[wanglemoose]

If you are going to mainly run on gas you could replace the fuel tank with your gas one and put a small fuel tank in the load space. You should get a 20L tank in there, which would get you to the next service station should you run out. Just my opinion not sure of the legalities tho.

Cheers
Mick

[WasabiPimpNinja]

In a dream world, I would run 4x forklift gask tanks across the boot floor on a strong platform with gas struts that could be lifted to gain access to the spare. Then run a false floor over the top of the tanks with a piano hinged access panel, and then stack beer, rum, whiskey, ciggys, and some beer on the new false floor. Or whatever other people carry, I don't know... Or I'd just get one of these and plumb it up http://www.lubetrailer.com/fuel-trailers-qt.jpg

:angel:

Cheers,
Keels.

[Keithy P38]

My option would be to fit an extra petrol tank for range and run skinny road tyres when not off-roading! The option also exists to convert to part-time 4x4 as a fuel saver... Not a fan of LPG/petrol combos! I'm a 1 or the other kinda fella!

Keithy

[PaulP38a]

My option would be to fit an extra petrol tank for range and run skinny road tyres when not off-roading! The option also exists to convert to part-time 4x4 as a fuel saver... Not a fan of LPG/petrol combos! I'm a 1 or the other kinda fella!

Keithy

My tyres are skinny... 255/85R16 but my fuel economy still sucks :p

Dunno why, I just can't get excited about the prospect of fitting LPG to my Rangie and spending several grand for it when the payback period for me would probably be 2-3 years.

A supercharger or turbo is something I could get excited about... payback period? Who cares! I'm off to chase some X5's and Cayennes :D

Cheers, Paul.

[Hoges]

The size of gas tank would be minuscule. 100 - 150km per tank? For comparison the biggest donut that goes in the well holds 68lts of gas for 300 - 400km. Does anyone know of a space saver spare tyre suitable for the P38?

Whaaaat? :eek::eek::eek: