Evil genius wanted.

[abaddonxi]

Driving home up the hill the other night and finally got jack of those glaring headlights blasting my mirrors.

Now here's my plan.

I need an evil genius to set up system aim the mirrors back at the offending driver by tilting the electric wing mirrors (Caravelle, not Defender:D) so that the beam is reflected back, and all on the fly.

Whaddaya reckon, who's up for it?

:D:D

Oh, and I guess it has to have an off switch, sort of like a reverse high-beam.

[B92 8NW]

Driving home up the hill the other night and finally got jack of those glaring headlights blasting my mirrors.

Now here's my plan.

I need an evil genius to set up system aim the mirrors back at the offending driver by tilting the electric wing mirrors (Caravelle, not Defender:D) so that the beam is reflected back, and all on the fly.

Whaddaya reckon, who's up for it?

:D:D

Oh, and I guess it has to have an off switch, sort of like a reverse high-beam.

If it's a diesel, a quick screwing and you'll have the perfect James Bond like smoke screen:D.

[Basil135]

Shouldn't be too hard...

A series of Light Dependent Resistors around the edge of the mirror, hooked to a circuit driving the electric mirror motors. The LDR's will focus the beam back to where it came from. We can build in a small error to aim the beam up slightly...

A small pressure switch on the back of the steering wheel will allow you to turn it on only when needed... :angel:

Option 2 is to have a discreet cabin mounted switch wired to a window washer bottle filled with 2 stroke oil, and the sprays mounted on the rear bumper... Should dull the beam enough to not be annoying any more....



:wasntme:

[digger]

Shouldn't be too hard...

A series of Light Dependent Resistors around the edge of the mirror, hooked to a circuit driving the electric mirror motors. The LDR's will focus the beam back to where it came from. We can build in a small error to aim the beam up slightly...

A small pressure switch on the back of the steering wheel will allow you to turn it on only when needed... :angel:

Option 2 is to have a discreet cabin mounted switch wired to a window washer bottle filled with 2 stroke oil, and the sprays mounted on the rear bumper... Should dull the beam enough to not be annoying any more....



:wasntme:

and from a croweater, Im so proud, :D
(but going to put my lights on only parkers whenever Bazil may be in front!!!:o)

just a question, why don't they put light sensitive plass in the mirrors so on bright day or headlight high beam night (and it all seems to be on one night!) they darken slighty, therefore as they are in front of mirror its double 'dulled" and still usable!

[Hymie]

Had a feller tonight followed me with his fog lights dazzling me.
At a 2 lane roundabout he pulled up beside me, I motioned his passenger to wind the window down and asked him to turn his fog lights off as they were dazzling me.
Well, Mr Legal expert went ballistic at me telling me that fog lights were yellow not white and further more I could investigate sex and travel.
He took of with a chirping of tortured tyres and a gesture similar to asking for two beers and promptly ran into a sign in the roundabout.
Me, I waved him goodbye and rang a tow truck for him. hopefully I get a spotters fee:D

[RobHay]

"Oh THERE IS A GOD ! THERE IS A GOD !" says Hymie as he smilingly continues on his way.

[Didge]

I've been thining about electrically controlled drop down concave relectors/mirrors mounted on the rear bar area for some time now to reflect those ******
"driving/ fog lights". Better still some rear mounted manually controlled big mother spotties!

[Didge]

Had a feller tonight followed me with his fog lights dazzling me.
At a 2 lane roundabout he pulled up beside me, I motioned his passenger to wind the window down and asked him to turn his fog lights off as they were dazzling me.
Well, Mr Legal expert went ballistic at me telling me that fog lights were yellow not white and further more I could investigate sex and travel.
He took of with a chirping of tortured tyres and a gesture similar to asking for two beers and promptly ran into a sign in the roundabout.
Me, I waved him goodbye and rang a tow truck for him. hopefully I get a spotters fee:D
They're so creative aren't they?! Must all have the same script writers. BTW, I love your description of his reply. I was hoping you had some REALLY REALLY REALLY BIG BLINDING SPOTTIES FOR HIM. You could've used low range and just run over him. I hate those bastards who drive around with their "fog" lights on. OOh look at me, I've got an extra set of lights, aren't I cool?! No, in fact, you're a selfish, ignorant, arrogant, insufferable buffoon. OK, that's my rant :)

[hiline]

Had a feller tonight followed me with his fog lights dazzling me.
At a 2 lane roundabout he pulled up beside me, I motioned his passenger to wind the window down and asked him to turn his fog lights off as they were dazzling me.
Well, Mr Legal expert went ballistic at me telling me that fog lights were yellow not white and further more I could investigate sex and travel.
He took of with a chirping of tortured tyres and a gesture similar to asking for two beers and promptly ran into a sign in the roundabout.
Me, I waved him goodbye and rang a tow truck for him. hopefully I get a spotters fee:D

i would of yelled out the window with................

i'd ring a tow truck for you but
i carnt see my numbers because of your fog light dazzle :D:p

[digger]

In SA is an offence to drive with "fog lights" on in anything except a "period of low visibility". Fog lights are defined as coloured and under a certain wattage.

so 90% of these "numpties" are breaking the law... follows up with a defect for a non compliant vehicle as they have white lights and these are therefore classified as SPOT LIGHTS OR DRIVING LIGHTS, Therefore they must be wired through the highbeam switch and not be able to operate unless highbeam is active!

the fine is a few hundred dollars, it carries a few demerits also.

my favorite is the numpty that drives headlights switched onto parkers and 'spot lights' on to look "cool". that one is "driving without appropriate lights" & using spotlights within 200m oncoming vehicle... very expensive and not many re offenders!...

usually these are the ones with fresh loose rubber under wheelarches...

cheers
digger

[Mick_Marsh]

In SA is an offence to drive with "fog lights" on in anything except a "period of low visibility". Fog lights are defined as coloured and under a certain wattage.

so 90% of these "numpties" are breaking the law... follows up with a defect for a non compliant vehicle as they have white lights and these are therefore classified as SPOT LIGHTS OR DRIVING LIGHTS, Therefore they must be wired through the highbeam switch and not be able to operate unless highbeam is active!
Surely, if the fog lights are not yellow (and too high wattage) or the driving lights are not through the high beam switch, they don't conform to the ADR's and/or not roadworthy.
Why are they registered by the relevant traffic authority? Why are the car producers/importers able to sell a defective item? I'd like to see a copper go in and slap yellow canaries on a new car dealers stock. It'll never happen though.

[Disco44]

In SA is an offence to drive with "fog lights" on in anything except a "period of low visibility". Fog lights are defined as coloured and under a certain wattage.

so 90% of these "numpties" are breaking the law... follows up with a defect for a non compliant vehicle as they have white lights and these are therefore classified as SPOT LIGHTS OR DRIVING LIGHTS, Therefore they must be wired through the highbeam switch and not be able to operate unless highbeam is active!

the fine is a few hundred dollars, it carries a few demerits also.

my favorite is the numpty that drives headlights switched onto parkers and 'spot lights' on to look "cool". that one is "driving without appropriate lights" & using spotlights within 200m oncoming vehicle... very expensive and not many re offenders!...

usually these are the ones with fresh loose rubber under wheelarches...

cheers
digger

In Queensland it is an offense for the same reasons.Also fog lights should be 55 watt, over that is another offense too.

[JDNSW]

Surely, if the fog lights are not yellow (and too high wattage) or the driving lights are not through the high beam switch, they don't conform to the ADR's and/or not roadworthy.
Why are they registered by the relevant traffic authority? Why are the car producers/importers able to sell a defective item? I'd like to see a copper go in and slap yellow canaries on a new car dealers stock. It'll never happen though.

I seem to remember quite a few years ago a new model Valiant appeared with rather ineffective turn indicators on the sloping surface of the front mudguard. One of the states, can't remember which one, refused to register them. I think they had to fit higher wattage bulbs.

John

[ramblingboy42]

Disco 44, I didnt know it was an offence here to drive with your auxiliary lights on. It seems every new vehicle has them. My disco has them hard wired into the low beam circuit (was like that when I bought it) and I guess only because theyre there I've changed them 3 times now because I always seem to break one each time I go bush. Last trip truckers gave me hell because this current set is a multi-facetted dichromic, which are very bright at a distance. I've now got them aimed so low theyre basically ineffective. Might disconnect them and just leave em in to fill the round hole in the bullbar.

[steve_35]

Firstly I cant believe anyone would want to reflect other peoples head lights back into there face while driving ????????????????

Second i cant believe anyone answered this post

Yes yes ill help you kill someone here's how

[abaddonxi]

Firstly I cant believe anyone would want to reflect other peoples head lights back into there face while driving ????????????????

Second i cant believe anyone answered this post

Yes yes ill help you kill someone here's how

So I guess I won't be putting you down on the list for one? Thirteen PMs expressing interest already.

Gotta say, I can't believe you've never flashed your lights at some oncoming idiot who's forgotten to dim their light.

And never wished for a way to do the same to the same idiot when they're following you.

[Camo]

Firstly I cant believe anyone would want to reflect other peoples head lights back into there face while driving ????????????????

Second i cant believe anyone answered this post

Yes yes ill help you kill someone here's how

Good on ya Steve_35.. as if it would kill anyone.

Its just reflecting light back at the driver so they will get the idea.. not like hes going to fit rear facing spot lights.

Have another latte and put some cement in it this time.

Camo

[Disco44]

Disco 44, I didnt know it was an offence here to drive with your auxiliary lights on. It seems every new vehicle has them. My disco has them hard wired into the low beam circuit (was like that when I bought it) and I guess only because theyre there I've changed them 3 times now because I always seem to break one each time I go bush. Last trip truckers gave me hell because this current set is a multi-facetted dichromic, which are very bright at a distance. I've now got them aimed so low theyre basically ineffective. Might disconnect them and just leave em in to fill the round hole in the bullbar.

The Law regarding using fog lights was changed about six months ago. You will be breached if you use them out of the stated conditions i.e. poor visibility so if they are hard wired get long pockets you will need them.

[ramblingboy42]

wirecutters.....snip

[RaZz0R]

Get a RRC Vogue with auto tin feature on the rear view mirror = problem solve :)

[Hymie]

Disco 44, I didnt know it was an offence here to drive with your auxiliary lights on. It seems every new vehicle has them. My disco has them hard wired into the low beam circuit (was like that when I bought it) and I guess only because theyre there I've changed them 3 times now because I always seem to break one each time I go bush. Last trip truckers gave me hell because this current set is a multi-facetted dichromic, which are very bright at a distance. I've now got them aimed so low theyre basically ineffective. Might disconnect them and just leave em in to fill the round hole in the bullbar.


If they're fitted they have to work.
They are supposed to be wired through a switch and only operate when the low beam lights are on. The Switch is supposed to have a yellow or green telltale lamp in it according to ADRs.

[incisor]

bah, bugger the mirrors, go with a 50cal on each chassis rail... ;)

[Basil135]

bah, bugger the mirrors, go with a 50cal on each chassis rail... ;)

Geez... and here I was trying to be subtle...:eek:



:p:D

[austastar]

Hi,
A long time ago when it was fashionable to have twin overhead foxtails and pom-poms around the rear window to really look cool while you did a few blockies, I was seriously hassled by a hoon in his hot rod with lights on high beam and continually coming up menacingly close behind and generally being a right pain.
Perhaps spoiling for a 'drag'.
I had been out on a job, and still had the trusty old Graflex 5x4 press camera on the seat beside me, complete with a very powerful flash gun that ran PF50 flashbulbs.
Now for those that don't remember the old flashbulbs, they are the size of a 100W light bulb, and burn to a peak brilliance in about 0.1 seconds, melting the plastic coating the on the glass that is there to stop the thing exploding.
In a word, they are dazzling.
Black spots before the eyes and total loss of night vision with a negative image of the lamp and reflector burned into the retina for a minute or so if you are unfortunate enough to look directly at one in action.
As we were approaching a roundabout, complete with post and rail fencing (not a good idea for road saftey), I unclipped the flashgun already loaded with a bulb, and at what I thought was the critical moment, pointed it back to the rear window. With my eyes tight I pressed the open flash button and seconds later manoeuvred around the roundabout successfully with out any bright lights at all in my rear vision at all.

Now in retrospect, simply adjusting the mirror may have been a more appropriate action, but I was fairly naive at the time, feeling threatened and wanted to escape the situation with out speeding.

At the time I thought it was a spectacular success.

The fence was replaced by Works and Jerks a few days later.

cheers

[clean32]

Easy, ramp your speed down slowly until they are up your date. Or pick up speed then back off, pick your time and hit the picks staying in the middle of your lane.

Your rear cross member is usually a bit more robust than there plastic lowered bumper, lights and radiator. Then hop out for a chat.

The problem isn’t just the high beam behind you but also the oncoming cars who flash there lights.

Your only options are, to deal with the situation and benefit the safety of all drivers and passengers, or pull over and pray that some other poor bugger don’t end up in a ditch

[Ace]

In NSW "fog lights" are illegal unless there is fog, rain or any other atmospheric condition other than clear weather. In NSW it is not a demerit offence but attracts a penalty of $81 last time I checked.

[isuzurover]

Driving home up the hill the other night and finally got jack of those glaring headlights blasting my mirrors.

Now here's my plan.

I need an evil genius to set up system aim the mirrors back at the offending driver by tilting the electric wing mirrors (Caravelle, not Defender:D) so that the beam is reflected back, and all on the fly.

Whaddaya reckon, who's up for it?

:D:D

Oh, and I guess it has to have an off switch, sort of like a reverse high-beam.

Go to your local uni which teaches mechatronics and suggest it as a project for one of their 4th year students.

[Disco Denmark]

My series3 work ute has a couple of "large" 150W worklights facing rearward and wired through a switch to operate as either worklights or reversing lights via the gearlever going into reverse.
At times the reverselight switch fails and the worklights come on.
( I think the fault is caused by reflections in my rear vision mirror, as the worklights go out once the following vehicle has dipped his lights).

At the moment I can't work out how to fix the problem.

Disco Denmark

[Hymie]

The problem is that 99.9% of the idiots who have them on either think they are "cool" or are using Daytime Running Lamps. Have a look around a few of the street forums and all the spotty boy racers think that they are the bees knees having them on.
As I pointed out to somebody once before, read the owners manual that comes with the car, believe it or not it tells you in black and white that they are fog lights, then, read the road rules and find out that you are breaking the law as well a ****ing people off.
Last week there was a blitz around here on vehicles with defective lighting.
Not 1 was booked for having fog lights on when it's patently obvious that about 10% of the cars on the road at night have them on.
Either it's a ****y law that the cops couldn't be bothered with or nobody's told them.
Fair Dinkum, I'll be going to prison for smashing some soon. I had a laugh last night, (and scored a Fifty for the Tow), but I actually getting too ****ed of to drive at night, especially when it's raining and they reflect up of the road as well.

[Mick_Marsh]

bah, bugger the mirrors, go with a 50cal on each chassis rail... ;)
Now ya talkin.

[Bigbjorn]

The regulations regarding the use of fog lights in Qld. is quite clear. Have a search for fog lights in the Transport Operations Road User Manual in www.legislation.qld.gov.au

Not to be used other than in conditions of poor visibility, not to be used in conjunction with headlights, must be wired through and used in conjunction with side lights.

Sorry, Disco44, there is no restriction on wattage. However really bright ones would be a negative owing to the amount of light being scattered by droplets of moisture in fog. My Perlux 200T's from the USA are 100 watts.

The yellow lens is a French affectation. Fog lights in Oz are not required to be yellow.

If you are really bothered by bright lights following and want to get the message across, fit Unity aimable spotlights. These can be moved and directed from the driver's seat and put right in the eyes of the following driver. See UNITY HAS THE RIGHT LIGHT (http://www.unityusa.com)

[rovercare]

You could always pull over and let the bad man pass, just like tailgaters, you pull over, they pass and all is happy:)







.......then follow them and make with the roadrage:twisted:

[Rangier Rover]

You could always pull over and let the bad man pass, just like tailgaters, you pull over, they pass and all is happy:)







.......then follow them and make with the roadrage:twisted:

Thats the go.... Have done it for years with some interesting results I may add:twisted:

[rovercare]

Thats the go.... Have done it for years with some interesting results I may add:twisted:

Hehe, nothing like getting out and having a go at someone who thinks they are tough, funny how tough they are when you have a go at them:)

[Basil135]

2 observations I have made.

1) Running fog lights at times other than those of low visability is illegal in most, if not all states. Funny thing is, most mornings, I see a D2a on my way to work, parkers & front fog lights on, regardless of the conditions.

2) It would appear that my original suggestion of misting oil towards the offending lights, seems to be the best, all round, slightly less illegal, option. :twisted:




:angel:

[Rangier Rover]

Ever seen what happens if 50 odd mil of brake fluid is dumped down the intake:twisted:

[Disco44]

The regulations regarding the use of fog lights in Qld. is quite clear. Have a search for fog lights in the Transport Operations Road User Manual in www.legislation.qld.gov.au

Not to be used other than in conditions of poor visibility, not to be used in conjunction with headlights, must be wired through and used in conjunction with side lights.

Sorry, Disco44, there is no restriction on wattage. However really bright ones would be a negative owing to the amount of light being scattered by droplets of moisture in fog. My Perlux 200T's from the USA are 100 watts.

The yellow lens is a French affectation. Fog lights in Oz are not required to be yellow.

If you are really bothered by bright lights following and want to get the message across, fit Unity aimable spotlights. These can be moved and directed from the driver's seat and put right in the eyes of the following driver. See UNITY HAS THE RIGHT LIGHT (http://www.unityusa.com)

Thanks Brian I was not aware that wattage was no longer specified.
Below is a copy & paste of the regulations..they are quite clear.I thinks they would be general to most other states
My experience with driving in fog is that higher wattage is not as effective as the lower wattage..I have tried both 100W and 55w but only in yellow.

A pair of fog lamps, showing a beam of white or yellow light, may
be fitted to the front of a motor vehicle with the centres no higher
than the top of the dipped beam headlamp and not less than 250
mm above the ground.
The lamps must be mounted symmetrically (same position on
both sides of the vehicle) and not less than 600mm apart.
Fog lamps must be capable of being switched on and off
independently of any headlamps but must only be able to be
switched on when the parking lamps are on.
Fog lamps must not be used except in fog or mist or under other
atmospheric conditions which restrict visibility.


A considerable number of vehicles can be observed at night with fog
lamps operating where general atmospheric conditions do not require
these lamps to be operating. As such, they are not being used for what
they are designed for and permitted in legislation. The task of
apprehending drivers who disobey the road rules is the sole responsibility
of the Queensland Police Service (QPS). Inappropriate use of fog lamps
could consequently attract attention and the issue of infringement notices
from officers of the QPS.

Fog lamps are intended to improve the illumination of the road in
conditions of fog, snowfall, rainstorms or dust clouds.
The ADRs do not specify the maximum wattage of bulbs used in fog
lamps but are required to be so designed to provide illumination with
limited dazzle. There is no restriction in Queensland legislation as to
where fog lamps can be used, for example built up areas.

[Sprint]

1) Running fog lights at times other than those of low visability is illegal in most, if not all states. Funny thing is, most mornings, I see a D2a on my way to work, parkers & front fog lights on, regardless of the conditions.

the funny part is finding anyone who turns thier lights on when its foggy!

[Sprint]

just occurred to me that the true evil genius, Sir Blknight is going to contribute sooner or later with a suggestion involving manipulating the situation so that the offending driver gets to impale the front of his car on your shed-class landrover's towbar, which will have the following implications

1: the offenders car will need to be towed
2: #1 requires the police to be notified
3: offender gets charged with a variety of offences..... because face it, a skateboard can outbrake a series LR.........

[flagg]

I adjust my mirror and go back to thinking about driving..... :o

[dobbo]

I have used the D2 rear fog lights before, this works even better for tailgaters.

[MickS]

Easy....never mind all that...just throw out some road spikes.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/114.jpg


Then hit them with a combination of water, oil and brake fluid deployed from the jets installed at the rear of your vehicle....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/115.jpg


Then when they have stopped, pull over, have a chat and kick them in the shins....


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/116.jpg

Job done ;) Not sure if its evil enough though....

[Mick_Marsh]

The DB5 that was used in Goldfinger is up for auction. Perhaps you should put in a bid.

[Gillie]

Hmmmm fog Lights.
Well I now have fog lights in my work vehicle and find that they are not at all blinding and rather ineffective. However, Around here it is not uncommon to drive 100 km through thick fog to bright sunny day and back to thick fog many times.

I heard a copper talking on the ABC that you can get fined for having them on if the conditions are clear. He also said that the police can fine you for having them off if conditions warrant having them on.

Me? I am too Scared to use the bloody things!

Talking to a Vic Roads officer, he believes that no legislation has been written for the use or non use of them.

The local hairdresser got fined in Tarawingee for having them on but she has the same problem of going from a pea souper to a clear day and she got off the fine.
I do agree that some of the foglights are too bright though.

[V8Ian]

Simon, the easiest way to reflect the light back is with one of those see through dividers used in vans to keep the air con in the cabin. :twisted: