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Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 09:05 AM
Have just purchased a new (to me) trailer, it is currently army green bit wanting some info and suggestions.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/126.jpg

It is the correct track for my RRc but sits very high on the suspension. I was thinking I could shorten up the front spring mount. Would it be O.K. if the springs weren't level or should I also shorten the rear of the shackle bracket.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/11/1068.jpg

I could mount a couple of jerry can holders just in front of the wheels.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/870.jpg

Do people think It would look good in the same colour as my RRc? The good thing is that it has the same studs as the Rangie so I can fit up a pair of alloys. Would that be the right thing to do or would the steel wheels be better for a trailer?

Where can I get a good tent unit to put on the top?

isuzutoo-eh
28th July 2010, 09:29 AM
Hi Diana,
I think you are going about this the wrong way. Keep the trailer's chassis/suspension and drawbar, chop up that silly sparkly rangie and use the tub on top of the trailer's underpinnings. The weight of the rangie tubby bits will allow the suspension to settle somewhat. Fit a flat top to the tub and chuck your swag on it. Paint the ensemble olive drab and you're set.

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 09:41 AM
No I like my RRc "Vague"! :mad:

But what I could do is to get some RRc alloy panels and fit them along the sides over the mudguards of the trailer. That way the profile of the trailer sides would match the RRc and the Jerry cans could be hidden behind the alloy skin.

I already have too much stuff in OD the Everglade Green is a much brighter colour.

So you think the Alloy rims are the go? I have 14 of that pattern, so I could use the ones with the muddies and not the ones on the 2 RRc "Vague" and "Bluey".

isuzutoo-eh
28th July 2010, 11:06 AM
Yeah go the alloys, got to keep things consistant.
You are probably better off removing that antiquated tow hitch too and putting a proper ball and cup hitch on it.

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 12:26 PM
Antiquated coupling, yes very bulky.

My mate Gary has a Treg hitch coupling for a No.5 he doesn't want. I'll cut the lunette off and weld in the Treg part.

Much more modern. :)

So who makes the best fold out tents?

There is enough room on the drawbar that I could fit one of those stainless steel pull out kitchens. Make a real camper trailer out of it!

kaa45
28th July 2010, 01:17 PM
OzTent - A Tent Perfect for 4WD, Rv & Camping in Australia. (http://au.oztent.com/) these are the go ;)

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 02:05 PM
Thanks Kaa45

However that is a free standing tent, I was thinking more of something that I could drill a few holes or weld in place on the trailer and when attached you'd fold open the tent like an accordion and it would be a ready erected camp kitchen and bedroom.

I may even cut the top off the trailer so I don't have to climb up so far!

Addit: Have just had a great suggestion, a 6" lift on Vague and 35" muddies on both Vague and the trailer. Then I won't have to take nearly as much out of the spring hanger brackets! Way to go?

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 06:55 PM
You'se guys are no fun at all.

Here I post up a pic of a current issue piece of Army equipment and I offer to paint it in bright metallic two-pack, fit alloy wheels and a bunch of unnecessary accessories, including drilling, welding and serious cutting and only Mark takes even the slightest interest.

If it were the Royal Navy in Nelson's time I should have been whipped, keel hauled and made to walk the plank.

No one even hinted at what I was planning was tantamount to treason! :(

You are all far more restrained than I could have been. ;)

Diana

101RRS
28th July 2010, 06:59 PM
You'se guys are no fun at all.

Here I post up a pic of a current issue piece of Army equipment and I offer to paint it in bright metallic two-pack, fit alloy wheels and a bunch of unnecessary accessories, including drilling, welding and serious cutting and only Mark takes even the slightest interest.

If it were the Royal Navy in Nelson's time I should have been whipped, keel hauled and made to walk the plank.

No one even hinted at what I was planning was tantamount to treason! :(

You are all far more restrained than I could have been. ;)

Diana

So when are the mags going on and the two pak metallic blue?

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 07:01 PM
So when are the mags going on and the two pak metallic blue?Everglade is a green and the alloy mags are currently down on the farm.

Maybe I'll fit them up in a week or two.

Blknight.aus
28th July 2010, 07:08 PM
while your at it you should probabley fit the 22 inch rims and the licorice strip tyres, cut the body of the trailer so it drops down and covers up the tyres, then you could add a pair of fully sick 20 inch woofers, a small generator to run them and some nice light green under body neons....

then you could put a ram scoop round the front with some holes in it to duct some air to the brakes and some great fog lights you could wire up to come on with your parkers... then loose the ridiculous drum brakes and squeeze some 18 inch rotors with yellow calipers on and hang a pin light in there to light up the brakes....

spoiler on the back and a fat 6inch pipe...

man your trailer would be sooo rockin..

mate, its your trailer, grab some oars strap an empty 60l drum to the pintle hook and paddle it across the Murry if you want to .. (

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2010, 07:18 PM
while your at it you should probabley fit the 22 inch rims and the licorice strip tyres, cut the body of the trailer so it drops down and covers up the tyres, then you could add a pair of fully sick 20 inch woofers, a small generator to run them and some nice light green under body neons....

then you could put a ram scoop round the front with some holes in it to duct some air to the brakes and some great fog lights you could wire up to come on with your parkers... then loose the ridiculous drum brakes and squeeze some 18 inch rotors with yellow calipers on and hang a pin light in there to light up the brakes....

spoiler on the back and a fat 6inch pipe...

man your trailer would be sooo rockin..

mate, its your trailer, grab some oars strap an empty 60l drum to the pintle hook and paddle it across the Murry if you want to .. (Thats wicked man! :)

I don't have to lose the drum brakes, it already has disks, now just need some drilled and slotted rotors with the yellow calipers, pitty it's on defender PCD and not P38a PCD where I could get some 23" rims and 15 profile licorice rings.

UncleHo
28th July 2010, 07:18 PM
Nah! to lower the trailer ride height just get a set of springs recambered or rated at 750kg :) a matching set of mags should look OK

Sprint
28th July 2010, 08:04 PM
You'se guys are no fun at all.

Here I post up a pic of a current issue piece of Army equipment and I offer to paint it in bright metallic two-pack, fit alloy wheels and a bunch of unnecessary accessories, including drilling, welding and serious cutting and only Mark takes even the slightest interest.

If it were the Royal Navy in Nelson's time I should have been whipped, keel hauled and made to walk the plank.

No one even hinted at what I was planning was tantamount to treason! :(

You are all far more restrained than I could have been. ;)

Diana

because we know that you know what will happen if you do! :-P

Phoenix
2nd August 2010, 07:53 AM
I have a few docs that would probably be of use to you diana.

How about a trade, you take some pics of the trailer for REMLR and i'll e-mail them to you LOL ;)

Lotz-A-Landies
2nd August 2010, 12:02 PM
I have a few docs that would probably be of use to you diana.

How about a trade, you take some pics of the trailer for REMLR and i'll e-mail them to you LOL ;)That sounds like a deal, but to make it look correct we'll hitch it up to Bill's Perentie!

rar110
2nd August 2010, 05:43 PM
Hi D
We are putting a eezi awn tent on top or the track trailer. It's probably much too big for what you need. There is pic at this link. Fortunately I will be able to fix it to the top without any mods.

http://attachments.dolium.com.au/products/images_large/575.png?r=1255394899

B92 8NW
2nd August 2010, 06:17 PM
Hi D
We are putting a eezi awn tent on top or the track trailer. It's probably much too big for what you need. There is pic at this link. Fortunately I will be able to fix it to the top without any mods.

http://attachments.dolium.com.au/products/images_large/575.png?r=1255394899

I think the OP was being "slightly" facetious wrt to installing a tent.

As a serious question though, what do "you military people" use the trailers for? Apart from preservation as a 'piece of history'?

Blknight.aus
2nd August 2010, 06:46 PM
we "Military People" hook them up to the back of "military Vehicles" so we can carry more stuff...

last time I checked its what civvies do with civvie trailers....

or did you have a different answer in mind?

:D

Col.Coleman
2nd August 2010, 06:58 PM
As a serious question though, what do "you military people" use the trailers for? Apart from preservation as a 'piece of history'?

Taking more mates along to wave in the Mardi Gras parade:D

CC

B92 8NW
2nd August 2010, 07:25 PM
we "Military People" hook them up to the back of "military Vehicles" so we can carry more stuff...

last time I checked its what civvies do with civvie trailers....

or did you have a different answer in mind?

:D

LOL:D.

Nah I didn't mean military military people, like yourself, but civilian military buffs who collect military vehicles/trailers and get upset when other people propose to modify them.

Do they use them to carry more stuff? Or just tow them around empty to look the part? I suspect it's more a hoarding process to prevent less enthusiastic civilian kind from putting tents on them:Rolling:.

Shonky
2nd August 2010, 07:48 PM
As a serious question though, what do "you military people" use the trailers for? Apart from preservation as a 'piece of history'?

Carrying stuff around. :)

...usually other pieces of military history (such as 11x11 tents, Army generators etc etc). Usually too and from military history events. Usually towed by a miltarily historic vehicle.

It's a sickness I tells ya! :eek2:


PS - nice try Diana, but I think most people on here are well onto you! :p (evidently though, some are not quite there!)

Lotz-A-Landies
28th January 2011, 11:54 AM
The NSW RTA doesn't recognise the VIN so they won't register the thing! Have been back to Haulmark in Sydney and then up to head office in Rocklea, calls back and forth to confirm dates and numbers and now its hope and see how long they take to send the info to the RTA and then how long the RTA take to process the data before I can register it. Grrrrrrr!

Sooooo frustrating. :(

IAddit:Spoke to more people - told to go back to the Registry, now we find out that the VIN has been cancelled by Qld. Transport, because: it wasn't being used, so QT decided to clean it out of the system. In fact it was being used - by the Australian Army!

drifter
29th January 2011, 05:27 PM
There are times when I do searches and completely unrelated threads appear - some which include gems like this one:


You'se guys are no fun at all.

Here I post up a pic of a current issue piece of Army equipment and I offer to paint it in bright metallic two-pack, fit alloy wheels and a bunch of unnecessary accessories, including drilling, welding and serious cutting and only Mark takes even the slightest interest.

If it were the Royal Navy in Nelson's time I should have been whipped, keel hauled and made to walk the plank.

No one even hinted at what I was planning was tantamount to treason! :(

You are all far more restrained than I could have been. ;)

Diana

I suspect the whole crux of it all was the bit I bolded. That's what you really wanted, wasn't it? :D


BTW - did you ever get it registered?

Edit: ignore the registration question - I now see your post re rego was only a day old.

Lotz-A-Landies
29th January 2011, 05:39 PM
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BTW - did you ever get it registered?

Edit: ignore the registration question - I now see your post re rego was only a day old.The rego stuff has been going on for 9 days now - first it was finding someone in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney to do a blue slip - no one even looked at the trailer. Some on the list given to me by the RTA had their blue slip authority canceled by the RTA others wanted to give me an appointment Thursday week! I eventually had to go out to Moorebank to get one done.

As for the actual Rego - it has now been two weekends where I wanted to use the trailer and still no rego. Hopefully Monday Haulmark at Rocklea Qld can get Queensland Transport to un-cancel the VIN (and presumably the VIN for all the Halumark PT1-1.2s)

RobHay
29th January 2011, 07:52 PM
You'se guys are no fun at all.

Here I post up a pic of a current issue piece of Army equipment and I offer to paint it in bright metallic two-pack, fit alloy wheels and a bunch of unnecessary accessories, including drilling, welding and serious cutting and only Mark takes even the slightest interest.

If it were the Royal Navy in Nelson's time I should have been whipped, keel hauled and made to walk the plank.

No one even hinted at what I was planning was tantamount to treason! :(

You are all far more restrained than I could have been. ;)

Diana

But we thunk it.....jest decided to give you enough time to come to ya senses all on ya lil' ol ownsome :D:p

Lotz-A-Landies
31st January 2011, 02:36 PM
Finally have it registered!

Darren at Haulmark, Rocklea Qld has been most helpful! :)

They were able to negotiate with Queensland Transport to un-cancel the VIN on the trailer, so I don't have to modify the trailer with a Police number. Unfortunately it was only for this one trailer, it seems that the remainder of the ones in the Army still have their VIN cancelled in the civilian databases throughout Australia. Haulmark is going to take this up with Defense Materiel Organisation to see if they can advise the civilian authorities of all the trailers etc currently in Army hands, lest everyone have similar problems at least for VIN issued in Queensland.

So the thing to take from this for anyone else who has a Haulmark trailer is to contact the manufacturer a few days before you go the the registry office.

Ted Bullpit
9th August 2012, 10:39 PM
G'day Lotza, nice trailer, am keen to have a look at these trailers next time they come up for sale.

Have been told their Tare weigh is 450kgs...if you don't mind me asking is that what the data plate on yours says?

I know they are built well but not sure on their specs..

Thanks in advance.

Ted.

Lotz-A-Landies
10th August 2012, 04:49 AM
yes the plated GTM is 1200Kg with 750Kg being payload leaving 450Kg tare.

Of course this in a military design and military spec and likely a civilian specification of the trailer would be a 1500Kg payload. Or at least that is what happens with trucks and you can get them re-certified.

87County
23rd October 2012, 08:12 PM
Hi Diana - if you're around....

There's one of these on ebay atm and am aware of the problems you had with rego...doesn't seem to be insurmountable ?

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NATO-MILSPEC-ARMY-TRAILER-4X4-HUMMER-SPEC-TRAILER-/150929885390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item23241f48ce&ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:AU:105&clk_rvr_id=401607568860)

.... obviously wondering about if the price ($3.85k) is ok so your views on that would be appreciated as well

... & I'm wondering if they are galv throughout

thanks :)

Lotz-A-Landies
24th October 2012, 12:26 AM
The issue with rego is solved by contacting Haulmark Trailers in Brisbane and having them reactivate the VIN with Queensland Transport which makes the VIN available to registration authorities Australia wide. It just took me a while to get to that point.

The trailer is painted hi-tensile chrome moly steel so is rust resistant.

Love the trailer and have had no problems with it, although behind the D4 the coupling position is a bit low. I also had to fit a spare because of the different PCD with the D4.

$3.8K is a little more than I paid by about 0.5K, so probably a bit much although Defence Materiel paid in excess of $8K in 2003.

87County
24th October 2012, 06:54 AM
Thanks for that info - I had read your earlier posts about your rego experience and I anticipate that whoever else buys this one will have similar issues ( and hopefully they may also be able to benefit from the information that you have shared).

:)


I have since found this which indicates that there are possibly more yet to be sold...

http://www.defence.gov.au/dda/vehicles/2330_66_152_0994.htm

87County
29th November 2012, 09:17 PM
I was surprised when I saw this:

Cargo trailer (NSN 2330-22-119-7678). - Image - Army Technology (http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/electrical/dalsted/dalsted3.html)

hmm .... a Danish company making a Haulmark style trailer ?

Or did our army have Haulmark copy the Danish idea I wonder?

Either way they sure are a solid trailer - mine got filled to the brim with sheep manure for the vegies yesterday - reckon there must have been a ton on board :D.